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But Jaffur had that and he wasn't the protagonist - he was the deuteragonist at best and has since been firmly demoted from that rank.
Willpower pushes work for anybody. I don't go in for plot armor or plot skills in this quest. Anybody can execute them. But since anybody else isn't protagonist material, they're generally too sane to try. :lol
 
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So, in this new paradigm. Is Tenshinhan Style the generic style that always applies no matter what you do, or what? It doesn't actually say anything about what the philosophy of the style is.
 
@PoptartProdigy

So, in this new paradigm. Is Tenshinhan Style the generic style that always applies no matter what you do, or what? It doesn't actually say anything about what the philosophy of the style is.
Tenshinhan Style can apply at any time, but you do need to be using the involved techniques and not using the penalized techniques in order for it to apply, just like any other style. It's very broad in that sense.
 
Tenshinhan Style can apply at any time, but you do need to be using the involved techniques and not using the penalized techniques in order for it to apply, just like any other style. It's very broad in that sense.

Would just having Four Witches Technique up suffice, or do we need to be doing something specific with it?
 
Would just having Four Witches Technique up suffice, or do we need to be doing something specific with it?
Well, if by "doing something," you mean, "fighting, in combat, using the four witches technique," then yes, you do need to do something. In general, I'm not going to give a hard-and-fast rule; as I'm not a computer and can make judgment calls, I don't have to. A benchmark, though: if you have Four Witches out but you're acting like a Goku stylist where a Tenshinhan stylist would be backing off for one reason or another (such as: this enemy has biceps as big as my everything, I should stick to range), I'm not going to give you style bonuses.

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Additionally, Mastery in a style now constitutes an acceptable achievement for breaking into Elite+ levels on the involved skills.
This is great, I'd always suspected that styles could be used as a kind of limit break and to see that it's now been implemented as a feature is quite fortuitous. So will practising Jaffur Style will increase our Ki Control limit? Will inventing a style that has Ki Sense as an involved technique do the same for Ki Sense?

EDIT: If a style has Ki Manipulation [Basic Attacks] as an involved technique, is that a way to limit break Ki Manipulation since that's the only skill associated with them? Are there any skills that are associated with Ki Talents so we can limit break that?
 
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As it is, having 75-character screams with various flavors of bold and italics and ALL CAPS is probably poor form, but I can't help it!
Clearly, the answer is to make a shaking .gif which is a screen wide and scrolls down fifteen pages of one hundred twenty point font, cracking the background color and spitting blue lightning while engulfed in golden flames.
 
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I Turn My Back For Five Minutes...
[X] Restore order
-[X] Mediate the discussion
--[X] Fairly

I Turn My Back For Five Minutes...
You let out an annoyed huff and shoot back to your feet, transforming. Instantly the furor dies and everybody hits the floor.

"He talks for less than a minute, and you're all right back to screaming at each other!" you yell, freely allowing your peevishness to be heard. "No wonder you want somebody to tell you to stop!"

An audience consisting mostly of thousands of adults staring at each other sheepishly is quite the sight. You sit down, sniffing, and detransform. "If you don't pay attention to the rules, you're being rude to me," you say.

That is some quality silence you've inspired.

At length, Celeran coughs and steps forward again. "Lady Dandeer Vegeta. To the stage, if you will."

It is a curious thing, to watch her ascend the stage in such absolute silence. You keep expecting jeers or hissing. From her posture, she does as well. As soon as she leaves her knot of supporters, her shoulders hunch and her eyes start to dart around the crowd as though expecting a blow. It gets worse and worse as she approaches the stage, and when she finally arrives, she looks like she's about to faint.

And no wonder, of course. Even the children in the crowd must be able to feel the sheer fury in Grandma's ki at the moment. You half-expect her to go for Dandeer's throat, and glance at her in the hopes of conveying your desperate wish for her not to.

Don't worry, comes Grandma's voice, tight and angry. I'm not going to. I'm holding onto how very proud of your speech just then I am and how much I don't want to undercut it.

You nod slightly.

Lady Vegeta finally makes it onto the stage and turns to the crowd, cringing. Celeran steps up to her.

"'And so we pay homage to our Patriarchs, Matriarchs, Ladies, Lords, and Scions,'" he says, his voice holding all the tones of a quote. "'To them we pay our fealty and reverence, for in them is the spark of the divine. We do not raise our hands against our rulers; their words are tinged with Grace.' Why have you broken this tenet?"

A flash of fire appears in her eyes, and she snaps, "Why have you? What right does a Peat have to chastise me?"

You quite deliberately flash to your full base power. She shoots you a glance, and quails away from your forbidding stare.

"I have already confessed, recanted, and begged forgiveness for my sin, and I set aside my family name long ago," says Celeran. "The Scion has rendered her judgment, and I have accepted it. What do you answer to this charge?"

She swallows. "I don't have to answer."

"So you don't," replies Celeran, his tone pleasant. "We, however, do not have to accept that." He turns to the gathered crowd. "Members of the Faith, I am not invested with the power of excommunication. But you are. A few times in our history the offense of one of ours has been so great that the members of the Faith sought to cast them out. Lady Dandeer refuses to answer why she has committed this sin. She will not defend herself. So long as she refuses, I leave her judgment to you-"

"YOU WILL NOT CAST ME OUT!"

The crowd goes dead silent as Dandeer starts screeching in fury, all of her nervousness burned away in a heartbeat.

"This Faith is mine as much as yours!" she says, swiping her hand through the air. "I will not be driven out of it, because I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG!"

The crowd starts to surge in response to that, but you're already coming to your feet. A flare of golden light blasts through the Hall.

"This isn't going to be calm," you say, annoyed. "I'll make it calm. Lady Vegeta, what were you saying?"

You don't look at her. You hate her. You hate her so much. It makes you sick to be standing up her in defense of her.

But you promised to be fair. And the more she talks, the more reason she'll give them to be mad for real at her. You can be patient.

That said, she appears to be happy with you speaking up. "Of course!" She gives you a relieved smile. "Lady Scion, you of all people know why I chose to-"

"I'm not on anybody's side," you say, short and level. You stare directly ahead. "I'm just making sure that people can talk."

She blinks, suddenly less sure. Does this woman even remember what happened the last time you two met?

"I...very well." She turns back out to the crowd. "I am not guilty of heresy. I have only done what is best for my family! My husband and my son are sick -- they are ill! None you have any right to scold me for my choices! My Clan sat and watched for years as my husband grew worse and worse, and you Gokun were always so content to-"

You flare your aura. "Be nice."

She quails, swallowing. "...nobody helped for years. And by the time I realized what needed to be done, it was too late for my son." She straightens. "I Sealed them both, to save them. I've heard what people are saying. Sealing isn't a curse. It's a medical treatment! It seals away the part of them that's savage and bloodthirsty, and lets everything good about them come forward. They're not dead, they're just fixed!"

People glance at each other when she says that. You feel a pit of nervousness in your stomach. They don't believe her...do they?

Celeran steps forward. "That tells us why you Sealed your Lord husband. Setting aside the matter of heresy, that is an explanation. But why Seal your son?"

"His father has broken him, like his own father did to him!" she shouts. The Vegetan contingent gets suddenly, fearfully, deathly quiet at that last part, in a way that send a shudder down your spine. "They're both poison, and they poisoned my son too! It's their fault, if you want somebody to blame! Jaffur is broken and Jaron is the only good thing that he can be, and it's all because of them!"

WHUMP

It is a blast of golden power that you've experienced from the source many times. Yet every time you feel it from somebody else, it is different. Grandma feels like hugs and cookies and iron faith and determination. Dad feels like convictions and patience swirling over a faint echo of howling regret. Jaffur felt different every time, by turns desperate and blazing with a drive to succeed or feeling like an avatar of death. Vegeta was a shrieking thing of cold and vicious cruelty.

Patriarch Yammar Vegeta, you now know, is a Prince.

He feels of simple, distant, unassailable dignity and nobility, gazing down upon the distant world below. And that distance is enforced by the silent threat of insane violence to any who dare try to scale those heights. And he is angry.

Every Vegetan in the crowd hits the floor on their hands, knees, and faces the instant they feel his presence roll out across the Hall. Only in their thousands can you feel the stark terror they exude at his presence. The Gokun follow only a second later, delayed only by the lack of cultural conditioning demanding that they recognize that presence as a cause to bow.

He takes a step forward, and then another, and another, and for each one that presence seems to demand a host of poets to follow along and set each pace to verse. You personally aren't affected because you're just as strong as him, but you can feel it.

No, what freezes you is the realization that this is the odd power level you felt speaking to your Grandma earlier.

"Tell me," he says, continuing his advance forward.

You move forward, just a little bit, in case he's going to try something.

"Tell me..." he says again, stepping up onto the stage. "No. Give me the blame for my son. I'm not alone in it, but I deserve it."

He comes to a halt opposite Dandeer. "Give me a single reason why I should not vaporize you where you stand for daring to imply that what you did to my grandson is my fault in any way."

* * *
Well. Shit.

[ ] Stand back.
[ ] Provide said single reason (write-in what).
[ ] Nope the hell out of here.
[ ] Side with Yammar.
[ ] Get mad. "I just got these people calmed down, and now you!" (Possibility of saying more than you intend as the dam breaks on a failed DC 65 Willpower check)
[ ] Write-in (as always, but particularly for such a delicate situation as this, heavily encouraged).

THIS VOTE IS NOW CLOSED.

Be aware that this will be the last crisis to dispense with at the Council. Once this is attended to you will vote on your conduct for the remainder of the Council and then skip through to the end of the event chain.
 
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Not writing a vote yet, but...

Look, the guy goes from "Yeah my son is at least largely my fault, I'll cop to that", and is pretty clearly copping to the truth that Vegeta was a terrible, terrible person who did terrible things just to be terrible, to "but that doesn't mean anything about my grandson is my fault!".

I mean, Cause And Effect, dude. If your actions shaped your son, he in turn shaped your grandson.

The iniquity of the father reaches 3-4 generations, after all.
 
Okay...so how difficult would it be to simply ramp up power JUST enough to provide a counterpoint to him, and hold it there while we keep as we have?
Something like
[] Release your power to the same extent to match and gain his attention, then address him, "Patriach Yammar, please, calm your might so that she may speak." Ramp down if he does.
-[] Allow for Dandeer to explain herself, while you do as you have so far: Mediate between them. Keep the conflict verbal.
 
Okay...so how difficult would it be to simply ramp up power JUST enough to provide a counterpoint to him, and hold it there while we keep as we have?.
How difficult? Not at all.

I mean his strength is likely equal to ours at maximum.

Would still be a terrible terrible terrible terrible idea though.

Do not poke the happy fun maniac.
 
I mean, I'd really like to just let him take this, I mean I want both of them to lose, and whats a better way to lose than going fucking insane in front of a religious congregation.

[X] Stand back.
-[X] But If your mentioned then dont be afraid to speak up.
- [X] ESPECIALLY IF MENTIONED IN TERMS OF HELPING WITH THE SEALING.
 
[X] Stand back.
-[X] But If your mentioned then dont be afraid to speak up.
- [X] ESPECIALLY IF MENTIONED IN TERMS OF HELPING WITH THE SEALING.
 
Not writing a vote yet, but...

Look, the guy goes from "Yeah my son is at least largely my fault, I'll cop to that", and is pretty clearly copping to the truth that Vegeta was a terrible, terrible person who did terrible things just to be terrible, to "but that doesn't mean anything about my grandson is my fault!".

I mean, Cause And Effect, dude. If your actions shaped your son, he in turn shaped your grandson.

The iniquity of the father reaches 3-4 generations, after all.
I might have been imperfectly specific there. He's calling bullshit on Dandeer and saying that he doesn't buy her explanation of Jaffur having been broken. He's accusing her of shifting the blame to someplace it doesn't belong by means of a malady he doesn't believe exists (he does understand that Jaffur will inevitably have issues, but he rejects the idea of Jaffur being broken).

If he were to accept the premise of, "Jaffur is broken enough to warrant Sealing," then he'd probably be copping to that as well, but he doesn't accept that premise. His phrasing, "Give me a single reason why I should not vaporize you where you stand for daring to imply that what you did my grandson is my fault in any way," is meant to place the fault back on her, where he thinks it belongs.
 
Would have gone with this, then I remembered he's a monster.
-[ ] Because it would make me sad if that awesome speech was for nothing. Aren't I too adorable to be sad? T~T

[X] Provide said single reason

-[X] Because in addition to the fact that executing the @$'#¥@~#$#_justifiably purging murdering someone while I'm mediating is very rude to me, meaning I'd have to try to intervene to stop it and get beaten up and then my grandma would jump in and then we'd have a civil war, if she's killed before making her full argument then there will always be a niggling doubt in the minds of the masses that maybe she was right. Also, if anyone should get to pass judgement on her, it should be her son.
 
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[X] Move in-between them.
-[X] Politely but firmly request that he stand down. Whether or not she is correct or incorrect in her statement, he is disrupting the council. He can present a a counter-claim in an orderly manner when she is finished, if he so desires.

Actually, is he even supposed to be here, or did he sneak in?
 
[X] Get mad. "I just got these people calmed down, and now you!" (Possibility of saying more than you intend as the dam breaks on a failed DC 65 Willpower check)
 
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