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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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General_Urist said:
I personally wouldn't. I don't remember the details of the Gala well, but what events there are likely candidates to boosing ENCOM? Do you think Syndrome is secretly hiding there?
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No, but I do think that they thought Syndrome getting hacked with their tech wasn't a good sign for them. If he could get hacked ad taken down in such a way, what was to stop them from being next? Add in the fact that they had been suffering some pretty major failures beforehand? ENCOM realized they needed to hunker down and beef up their systems. Either they got a really lucky roll, or they were able to get their hands on a very competent hero.
 
Cjdavis103 said:
OK so I had a scary thought what if Xanatos isn't Xanatos.

If Fox is dead that means Xanatos didn't win. Which leads me to believe that someone else is playing the part.

Xanatos had the tech to make perfect duplicates of himself and others hell we see Coyote whom when is not a damaged robotic head is Indistinguishable From the real deal and we haven't seen Owen do anything puck magical.

I think Maybe Thalog won. Killing Xanatos and the Gargoyles and taking over Xanatos enterprises. Either repairing Coyote or replicating him to play the part of Xanatos while he rules from the background.

this is a rather large problem if it is true. We really need to confirm he's not arobot.
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This is an exceptionally large leap of logic to make. Fox being dead does not mean Xanatos has been taken off the table offscreen or anything like that. Those are two unrelated events.

Consider instead that Xanatos is the only canon villain to really win big without facing serious, major retribution for his actions. Like a few other villains in DVV (like the one you are playing right now), this Xanatos won at a personal cost.
 
mangawriter77 said:
No, but I do think that they thought Syndrome getting hacked with their tech wasn't a good sign for them. If he could get hacked ad taken down in such a way, what was to stop them from being next? Add in the fact that they had been suffering some pretty major failures beforehand? ENCOM realized they needed to hunker down and beef up their systems. Either they got a really lucky roll, or they were able to get their hands on a very competent hero.
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34 in pretty much any field is good. It is only a few points away from Doof's Learning score.

58 is inhuman to such an extent that that pretty much has to be the MCP.
 
weredrago2 said:
This is an exceptionally large leap of logic to make. Fox being dead does not mean Xanatos has been taken off the table offscreen or anything like that. Those are two unrelated events.

Consider instead that Xanatos is the only canon villain to really win big without facing serious, major retribution for his actions. Like a few other villains in DVV (like the one you are playing right now), this Xanatos won at a personal cost.
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Well you know more than I do so I'll drop it.

it just seems odd that he did worse in this timeline then in the original one. So I assumed that there was something going on we weren't Privy to. Like the displayed king not being the actual one.

but I'll drop it.
 
Cjdavis103 said:
We really need to confirm he's not arobot.
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I see that there has been "Word of Paul" that Xanatos won at a personal cost, but I think it might impress him a little to see us ask him to bleed a little for us. Most duplicate / replica / etc. things tend to have trouble doing a proper facsimile of bleeding; if we offer him a penknife and ask as a means of proof of identity he might consider us worth telling things.

Or that might be something to keep in a back pocket once a "copycat crisis" sort of scenario starts happening.
 
Barondoctor said:
I see that there has been "Word of Paul" that Xanatos won at a personal cost, but I think it might impress him a little to see us ask him to bleed a little for us. Most duplicate / replica / etc. things tend to have trouble doing a proper facsimile of bleeding; if we offer him a penknife and ask as a means of proof of identity he might consider us worth telling things.

Or that might be something to keep in a back pocket once a "copycat crisis" sort of scenario starts happening.
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Perhaps it would be better to wordlessly prick your own finger first and see if he catches on.

though apparently it was just my paranoia coming out for a second sense it's Albert confirm that he is still him and not a robot. So I would not be surprised if he created a few more coyote like robots just to pull some Dr. doom shenanigans from time to time.
 
Barondoctor said:
I see that there has been "Word of Paul" that Xanatos won at a personal cost, but I think it might impress him a little to see us ask him to bleed a little for us. Most duplicate / replica / etc. things tend to have trouble doing a proper facsimile of bleeding; if we offer him a penknife and ask as a means of proof of identity he might consider us worth telling things.

Or that might be something to keep in a back pocket once a "copycat crisis" sort of scenario starts happening.
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More world leaders should carry knives. You know, for repliacnt tests.
 
Black.Horus said:
I am not well versed with Gargoyles so mind giving me the canditates of who is this poor fool could be?
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Foremost suspect:

Oberon - The season finale to season 2 of Gargoyles saw Xanatos calling upon friends, family, allies and enemies in an attempt to keep his son safe from Oberon, the god-like king of the fae. Xanatos was married to Fox Xanatos nee Janine Renard.

Fox was the half fae daughter of Titania, who had been living as a human after Oberon exiled her (and the rest of the fae) from their homeland of Avalon for a thousand years. During those years, Titania married with one Halcyon Renard, genius industrialist, and from that marriage Fox was born.

Titania considered that the half fae heritage in Fox had died without manifesting, but thought that her grandson (the son of Xanatos and Fox) could be nurtured even though he was only one quarter fae. This happened at the end of the thousand year exile and Oberon recalled all the fae to Avalon. He showed up at Xanatos HQ trying to track down the Puck (who was disguised as Owen Burnett, Xanatos personal assistant), found Titania and upon learning about the kid decided that he was taking him too.

Canonically, Oberon was able to eventually bulldoze through the various defenses that had been deployed against him, but he was convinced to leave the kid with the parents when Fox awakened her magic just in time to blast Oberon through a wall. Puck, who had actively attacked Oberon, was sentenced to become a human at all times, except when teaching the kid to use his magic.

The other names that potentially come to mind...

Thailog - Gargoyle clone of Goliath, with Xanatos level intellect and literally zero morals. Possibly the CEO of Nightstone Unlimited.

Demona - Crazy immortal gargoyle witch who was a partner of Xanatos, until she decided to betray him for good. Has genocidal plans against humanity (almost released a bioplague that would have wiped out humanity towards the end of Gargoyles season 2), some magical ability and keeps grudges as if she was one of the Warhammer dwarves. Also possibly the CEO of Nightstone Unlimited, whom she created along Thailog.

There may be a few other candidates, but those three are probably the foremost suspects, because the number of people actually capable of killing Fox (who was canonically an extremely capable mercenary) is not that high to begin with.
 
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Black.Horus said:
I am not well versed with Gargoyles so mind giving me the canditates of who is this poor fool could be?
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Thalog tops the list.

Goliath maybe if it was in the heat of battle. Would explain whyhe and his clan is gone.

Oberion/Titania if someone wonky magic bullshit plans went wrong. He'd probably still be working on a way to kill them.

demona and Macbeth are possible because they certainly wouldn't hesitate but unlikely.
 
Hey i been thinking something that has been bugging me for a while. Could we investigate both Judge Doom, and Toffe. More exactly Why judge Doom has a grudge with Toffe.

We know that Doom, hates toons and people that goes against his plans. But why exactly Toffe, could be the second one. But i kinda want to have all the knowledge.

Aside for that, i been thinking that we should take Judge Doom down, before toffe, bill, or anyone else. Mostly because he looks to be an easy king to defeat. I mean we have plot knowledge of the dorito and Toffe. But they are treats NOW, and they could be bigger treats in the future, compared to the Lunatic Toon, that is Doom, i prefered that we take that guy Now and not later when we could have our hands fulls With the real treats of the board.
 
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Tazamz said:
Aside for that, i been thinking that we should take Judge Doom down, before toffe, bill, or anyone else. Mostly because he looks to be an easy king to defeat. I mean we have plot knowledge of the dorito and Toffe. But they are treats NOW, and they could be bigger treats in the future, compared to the Lunatic Toon, that is Doom, i prefered that we take that guy Now and not later when we could have our hands fulls With the real treats of the board.
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I agree with this. Not only that, Taking down doom will remove the Doomtown delende est and highway kingdom delende est tags.
 
Tazamz said:
We know that Doom, hates toons and people that goes against his plans. But why exactly Toffe, could be the second one. But i kinda want to have all the knowledge.
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Doom is under the impression that Toffee is a Toon, due to the fact that there are no anthro lizards in Zootopia, and very very few in Cape Suzette. Given their extreme rarity, and the skills that Toffee seems to possess, along with Doom's fixation, the not-so-good Judge came to the conclusion that Toffee must be a Toon.
 
General_Urist said:
OK, so the MCP is flexing its muscles. How do we go about combating this? I'm not sure how we'd even discover it in-universe.
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While we have the chops to keep DoofOS competitive with ENCOM, now that the MCP is actually involving itself in User software development we won't be able to dominate the market anymore. We're spread too thin, and we lack the bonuses. As far as I can tell, if we want to make progress against the MCP, we have two main options:

1) Focus on avenues which expand Doof's share of cyberspace that the spiteful and inhuman MCP is ill-suited to compete with, like social media;

and 2) Digitize, meet up with the cyberspace resistance, and flex on the MCP with our Martial instead.

Picking 2) actively commits us to open war on another front, which isn't great, but 1) comes with a variety of useful secondary benefits, so I'd like to keep up with that. Especially since we can stick Phineas and Ferb in charge of social media this turn to critically succeed and create a product the MCP will find confounding and irreproducible.
 
kfrar said:
While we have the chops to keep DoofOS competitive with ENCOM, now that the MCP is actually involving itself in User software development we won't be able to dominate the market anymore. We're spread too thin, and we lack the bonuses. As far as I can tell, if we want to make progress against the MCP, we have two main options:

1) Focus on avenues which expand Doof's share of cyberspace that the spiteful and inhuman MCP is ill-suited to compete with, like social media;

and 2) Digitize, meet up with the cyberspace resistance, and flex on the MCP with our Martial instead.

Picking 2) actively commits us to open war on another front, which isn't great, but 1) comes with a variety of useful secondary benefits, so I'd like to keep up with that. Especially since we can stick Phineas and Ferb in charge of social media this turn to critically succeed and create a product the MCP will find confounding and irreproducible.
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I still want that laser the pirate is offering. It's basically free tech to someone like us and even if we just end up sitting on it, it's a good thing to have
 
What if we asked for increased rights to Toons along with the SRA repeal. It would fit our stated goals to the public to give better rights to Toons and also give a plausible out for why we didn't initially lobby against the SRA in the first place.

Sorry if this is so late the thread just moves so fast and I do not have an appropriate schedule to keep up with it too well.
 
kfrar said:
While we have the chops to keep DoofOS competitive with ENCOM, now that the MCP is actually involving itself in User software development we won't be able to dominate the market anymore. We're spread too thin, and we lack the bonuses. As far as I can tell, if we want to make progress against the MCP, we have two main options:

1) Focus on avenues which expand Doof's share of cyberspace that the spiteful and inhuman MCP is ill-suited to compete with, like social media;

and 2) Digitize, meet up with the cyberspace resistance, and flex on the MCP with our Martial instead.

Picking 2) actively commits us to open war on another front, which isn't great, but 1) comes with a variety of useful secondary benefits, so I'd like to keep up with that. Especially since we can stick Phineas and Ferb in charge of social media this turn to critically succeed and create a product the MCP will find confounding and irreproducible.
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I will say that if we can start digitizing our forces but we can probably holdour Own there and they will be unlikely to focus on us because candy is there and fighting them.

if we simply turn DoofOS and connected systems into a fortress we can get all the benefits of cyber space safely enough.

also keep in mind the Physical locations of Emcom servers are comparatively weak. We can probably kick their ass in meat space if they push us too hard.
 
So, how good is our economy doing? Apparently, I have nothing better to do, so...

Slight increase from acquiring ACME (Canis Fed-Upwithis)
DoofOS: A large amount plus slightly more (May/June 2015)
Slight increase from Doofhawk Castle (Castle Doofhawk, Part VI)
Slight increase from Disney (Cut the Muster)
Moderate income loss from Evil Job Benefits (July/August 2015)
Slight income from Greevil Power (November/December 2015)
Small Income from Chicken Itza (Birds of a Feather-Birds Unfettered)
Moderate income increase from Chicken Itza excavation (May/June 2016)
Moderate decrease from Income from setting money aside (May/June 2016)
(If I've missed anything, let me know)

So that's two moderate decreases, five slight increases, one moderate increase, and one large increase. I'm kind of surprised we're actually (probably) money positive, I assumed we weren't.
 
Traiden said:
What if we asked for increased rights to Toons along with the SRA repeal. It would fit our stated goals to the public to give better rights to Toons and also give a plausible out for why we didn't initially lobby against the SRA in the first place.

Sorry if this is so late the thread just moves so fast and I do not have an appropriate schedule to keep up with it too well.
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That would basically be seen as hijacking the movement, and I doubt it is something that we could pull off against the general public, much less the PR specialist Doom.
 
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