I think we should probably focus on getting our Occult stats up before the auction. We need to make as good of an image as possible with Xanatos.

Not concrete as I haven't seen the list of actions for next turn. In the meantime, this is the baseline of my "masterplan". *insert maniacal laugh* Thoughts? Comments?
It's annoying to read and we can't do multiple Chat with Bossmans.

I don't like that you aren't Excavating Chicken Izta. We need more Occult yesterday.
 
Also, it doesn't hurt that actions against the current Monsters Incorperated are objectively correct because in theory their entire society could probably be fueled by maybe a hundred children and some Toons.

Rick and morty: Episode 10 season 1

On a couple hundred morties being strapped on to some Warhammer 40k esque torture machine.

Rick "I fiddled with a concept like that once.
It's barbaric overkill, you could accomplish the same result with like five mortys and a jumper cable. I'm just saying it's bad craftsmanship.
 
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I think we should probably focus on getting our Occult stats up before the auction. We need to make as good of an image as possible with Xanatos.


It's annoying to read and we can't do multiple Chat with Bossmans.

I don't like that you aren't Excavating Chicken Izta. We need more Occult yesterday.
Um, hello? Doofhawk? How is that not more Occult?
... uh, you already have Technor working on a National Acrion.
Dunno what you're talking about:whistle:
 
Time travel has been confirmed as off-limits. Time Baby is apparently still around.

okay good dealing with someone whom can stable time loop as he desires is a bit difficult.

still he has acess to some serious magical artifacts in his back pocket. Wouldn't be surprised if he had a pet magic user able to throw down with the best of them.
 
I'm going to offer the plan I made earlier today. It's the same thing, but I accounted for Norm and Vannessa this time.

[ ]Theorizing 2.0
-[] Deal with 'The Resistance' DC:5 (Dennis)
-[] Update the City Council DC:90 (Goofy)
-[] Excavate Chicken Itza DC:100 (Janna Ordania)
-[] Express Delivery DC:90 (Wile E. Coyote)
-[] Buy out Lee Industries DC:55 (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
-[] Expose Hawk DC:90 (Russ)
-[] Investigate the cape scene (Tobe)
-[] Research Adaptive anti-cape AI DC:100 (Ludivine Von Drake)
-[] Research Dino Domestication DC:90 (Dr. Jumba Jookiba)
-[] Research alchemy DC:80
-[] Doofensmirtz Personal
--[] Browse online for interesting stories
--[] Read your Spellbook (87/150)
--[] Chat with the Bossman (Janna)
--[] Make up with Roger
-[] Get an apartment (Genghis Khan)
-[] Reorganize OWCA (Francis Monogram) (Reward: 70/250)
-[] Repair (Norm Prime)
-[] Do Good Deeds (Hego)
-[] Psychoanalyze "Stanley" (Technor)
-[] Bond with Dad (Max)
-[] Personal Action (Vanessa)
-[] Look into wayward supers (Mirage)
-[] Personal Action? (Lizzie)

Where was that confirmed? I must have missed it.
Talk with the Bossman is only available once per round, and the loyalty will apply during the next turn, not the present one.
Right here.

Um, hello? Doofhawk? How is that not more Occult?
It's not enough Occult. Besides, the DC of Doofhawk is 125. We need to lower it with ACME instant delivery. Chicken Izta is much easier and less risky.
 
I don't like that you aren't Excavating Chicken Izta. We need more Occult yesterday.
Solution:
Do Xanadu this turn.
Do Chicken Itza next.

Felldrake isn't going to tell us about the map until we do Chicken Itza, but he's also not going to get his host killed in the middle of Mongolia if he can help it, and we're not getting a much better squad than Khan, Max, and Janna now that so many of our heroes are being allocated to double National Actions. Technor or Wile E. might increase a couple of bonuses by less than five, but that's not a lot and we have need of them elsewhere.

If you want to scrape Russ free to send him on the quest with Tooned In before going to Xanadu, fair enough. But we definitely need Russ on our Intrigue National Actions right now, so unless you think it's absolutely essential to get him, we're not going to get much more prepared for Xanadu in the near future than we are right now.

Again, they give us:
+97 Martial in combat, +68 Martial out of combat
+33 Diplomacy
+36 Stewardship
+43 Intrigue
+30 Learning
+27 Occult
-10 to all DCs
And one effectively immortal party member.

97 Martial. That forgives many sins.

Where was that confirmed? I must have missed it.
Talk with the Bossman is only available once per round, and the loyalty will apply during the next turn, not the present one.
 
*Points at Owen. AKA Puck, aka Robin Goodfellow.* You mean that? That kind of magic user? The one that's training Xanatos' son, who is apparently a magical prodigy himself?

now add on the ability to teleport anywhere and acess their full magical power.

also I am willing to bet that he has his own daddy's little boy trait for his son. He wouldn't let his son within a dozen miles of a fight.

Actally do we know if his family situation is like canon? He and Fox might not have ever been together
 
See if we can by asking our warlock ancestor call forth The Souls of dead supers and Maybe genetically engineer knockoff versions of their old powers give them bodies that are basically composite clones like takes a black hair Gene from one person green eye Gene from another skin color genes from the Third so on so so forth
 
See if we can by asking our warlock ancestor call forth The Souls of dead supers and Maybe genetically engineer knockoff versions of their old powers give them bodies that are basically composite clones like takes a black hair Gene from one person green eye Gene from another skin color genes from the Third so on so so forth

no necromancy unfortunately
 
We can wait a turn to do Xanadu. Chicken Izta might yield some Occult artifacts that we can grant our questers, and sending Max out only two months after the last disastrous quest is callous.
If things work anything like how every other magical artifact we've gotten work, it'll take an Occult action to actually analyze them for use, which would delay their availability until the day of the auction.

As for Max, my apologies to the guy, but this is a trip with an actual friend of his to not a jungle and not with three other Toons, so it should be better. And we can give him another vacation afterwards.

It's just that, as you said, we need more Occult yesterday.
 
Lion Dogs, Tengu, Oni, Sarugami and Kitsune; shishi are lion dogs, and any one of the latter could be classified as a "mountain spirit". Hell, it's possible there might even be a Mizuchi, the dragon spirit of a river or spring, skulking about. Ooof. Yeah that's potentially a very nasty place.

Those are all Japanese; Xanadu is in Northern China. China does have a bunch of equivalent spirits, just by different names (because most of them were exported to Japan). Huli jing -> Kitsune, for example.

Of course, we did just investigate a Mesoamerican-style ruin in Peru, guarded by a knockoff of a Greek God, so there are no rules.
 
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So do we have anything in our arsenal that can deal with time travel? Because if Xanatos won he might have the Phoenix gate, he probably has the Grimour and he likely has the eye of Odin.

that's a very scary amount of magical blushit sitting around in Xanatos's back pocket.

please tell me time travel is off limits.
We've been explicitly told that time travel is off limits in the plot as a whole.

Also, Xanatos winning would be... not great, but it'd be an ending we could live with. That's more than we can say for some of the other Kings.

[ ] Move Castle Doofhawk to Doofania
-Lizzie
How do we know Lizzie's that strong of a Stewardship hero?

Intrigue:
[ ] Wing the Hawk (Expose)
-Agent Russ
Hm. Interesting. It might not be our best choice (turning the Hawk and making him a double agent would be better for us in the long run). But it'd work well as an immediate "fuck you" to Judge Doom that would inconvenience him and damage his reputation, in response to the crap he pulled on us.

[ ] Survey Galfed Ship
-Von Drake
and
[ ] Research Dino Domestication
-Jumba
I'd rather commit Dr. von Drake to some other Learning action. Jumba gets a specific bonus to GalFed tech, doesn't he? I'd rather have a better chance of critting on that action, since a crit is more likely to net us immediate rewards or multiple projects.

Occult:
[ ] Search for magical individuals
-Janna
I'd rather put Janna on the Chicken Itza action. There's loot, and stuff gated behind it.

Personal:
-Doof
--[ ] Read spellbook
--[ ] Take self-defense classes
--[ ] Chat with the Bossman
---[ ] Janna
--[ ] Make up with Roger
-Goofy
--[ ] Finish your degree online
-Khan
--[ ] Get an apartment
-Dennis
--[ ] Search for Donald
-Mirage
--Look into wayward supers
-Vanessa
--[ ] Job shadow Doof
...Acceptable.
-LOVEMUFFIN
--[ ] Develop new social media platform
What's the DC on that action again? It's a DC 70 action, their threshold for a critical failure is about a 52, and Doof+LOVEMUFFIN does NOT
I'm going to offer the plan I made earlier today. It's the same thing, but I accounted for Norm and Vannessa this time.

[ ]Theorizing 2.0
-[] Deal with 'The Resistance' DC:5 (Dennis)
-[] Update the City Council DC:90 (Goofy)
-[] Excavate Chicken Itza DC:100 (Janna Ordania)
-[] Express Delivery DC:90 (Wile E. Coyote)
-[] Buy out Lee Industries DC:55 (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
-[] Expose Hawk DC:90 (Russ)
-[] Investigate the cape scene (Tobe)
-[] Research Adaptive anti-cape AI DC:100 (Ludivine Von Drake)
-[] Research Dino Domestication DC:90 (Dr. Jumba Jookiba)
-[] Research alchemy DC:80
-[] Doofensmirtz Personal
--[] Browse online for interesting stories
--[] Read your Spellbook (87/150)
--[] Chat with the Bossman (Janna)
--[] Make up with Roger
-[] Get an apartment (Genghis Khan)
-[] Reorganize OWCA (Francis Monogram) (Reward: 70/250)
-[] Repair (Norm Prime)
-[] Do Good Deeds (Hego)
-[] Psychoanalyze "Stanley" (Technor)
-[] Bond with Dad (Max)
-[] Personal Action (Vanessa)
-[] Look into wayward supers (Mirage)
-[] Personal Action? (Lizzie)
On the whole I like this, but I'm worried about researching alchemy. Though there may just be nothing for it I guess? Maybe we could do Summon Malifishmertz as a personal action to reduce the risk or help us deal with the consequences of a hilarious failure.

Solution:
Do Xanadu this turn.
Do Chicken Itza next.

Felldrake isn't going to tell us about the map until we do Chicken Itza, but he's also not going to get his host killed in the middle of Mongolia if he can help it, and we're not getting a much better squad than Khan, Max, and Janna now that so many of our heroes are being allocated to double National Actions. Technor or Wile E. might increase a couple of bonuses by less than five, but that's not a lot and we have need of them elsewhere.

If you want to scrape Russ free to send him on the quest with Tooned In before going to Xanadu, fair enough. But we definitely need Russ on our Intrigue National Actions right now, so unless you think it's absolutely essential to get him, we're not going to get much more prepared for Xanadu in the near future than we are right now.

Again, they give us:
+97 Martial in combat, +68 Martial out of combat
+33 Diplomacy
+36 Stewardship
+43 Intrigue
+30 Learning
+27 Occult
-10 to all DCs
And one effectively immortal party member.

97 Martial. That forgives many sins.
Bear in mind that a lot of quest actions have DCs of, like, 80 or more. Having a combined bonus in the 30s is not reassuring.

The extreme Martial makes it likely that we can survive any direct fights we get into, but Occult rolls can result in serious injuries, and blowing a Diplomacy or Stewardship check can cause other complications.

Why not just... take Chicken Itza first...?
 
If things work anything like how every other magical artifact we've gotten work, it'll take an Occult action to actually analyze them for use, which would delay their availability until the day of the auction.

As for Max, my apologies to the guy, but this is a trip with an actual friend of his to not a jungle and not with three other Toons, so it should be better. And we can give him another vacation afterwards.

It's just that, as you said, we need more Occult yesterday.
I don't think so. Felldrake would probably identify the artifacts as apart of being the guy in charge of the excavation. This is his temple after all.

Knowing more about the other places on the map will help us judge Xanadu.
 
A lot more people seem present now and seeing we are still talking about the plan for next turn, here's a plan I posted a couple pages back. Can you guys share your thoughts to me on it? This plan assume's we got Tobe from the random rolls.

[ ] Plan: Toon Result's
-[ ] Deal with 'The Resistance' (Max)
-[ ] Update the City Council (Technor)
-[ ] Improve Recycling Programs (L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.)
-[ ] Develop a new social media platform (Wille E. Coyote)
-[ ] Buy out a rival corporation (Mirage)
- -[ ] Lee Industries
-[ ] Investigate the Middleton Drug Ring (Tobe)
-[ ] Wing the Hawk (Agent Russ)
- -[ ] Expose Hawk
-[ ] Research Adaptive anti-cape AI (Ludivine Von Drake)
-[ ] Research Dino Domestication (Dr. Jumba Jookiba)
-[ ] Search for magical individuals (Janna)

-[ ] Dr. Doofenshmirtz
- -[ ] Browse online for interesting stories
- -[ ] Chat with the Bossman
- - -[ ] Janna
- -[ ] Make up with Roger
- -[ ] Read your Spellbook
-[ ] Goofy
- -[ ] Finish your degree online
-[ ] Genghis Khan
- -[ ] Study science and technology
-[ ] Wile E. Coyote
- -[ ] Work for the Bossman
- - -[ ] Develop a new social media platform
-[ ] Francis Monogram
- -[ ] Reorganize OWCA
-[ ] Agent Russ
- -[ ] Work for the Good Doctor
- - -[ ] Wing the Hawk
-[ ] Dennis the Duck
- -[ ] Work with Temujin
-[ ] Hego
- -[ ] Try talking to Shego
-[ ] Technor
- -[ ] Work for Dr. Doof
- - -[ ] Update the City Council
-[ ] Max
- -[ ] Work for the Doof
- - -[ ] Deal with 'The Resistance'
-[ ] Mirage
- -[ ] Work for Dr. Heinz
- - -[ ] Buy out a rival corporation
-[ ] Vanessa
- -[ ] Shadow job Doof
-[ ] Janna
- -[ ] Do Stuff for the Doof
- - -[ ] Search for magical individuals
-[ ] Dr. Jumba Jookiba
- -[ ] Work for fellow Evil Genius
- - -[ ] Research Dino Domestication
-[ ] Bug Queen Lizzie
- -[ ] Personal Action
-[ ] Tobe
- -[ ] National Action
- - -[ ] Investigate the Middleton Drug Ring
L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.
-[ ] Work on an extra action?
- -[ ] Improve Recycling Programs
Overclock Technor?
-[ ] Don't overclock Technor
Activate an Inator?
-[ ] Activate an Inator



REASONING
Martial

It is a good time to do the Resistance action as currently there is nothing really urgent going on and other options are much better to be done when Temujin got an upgrade on his personal action and when we finished the Adaptive Anti-Cape AI for any Norm upgrade. The reason why we should sent Max or Vanessa is to use their In Crowd trait to get the maximum benefit. Hero units like Temujin, Coyote, etc at best will only have the resistance shut up and leave us alone. With Max or Vanessa however there is a chance of the resistance telling us a usefull information like where the Devil Girl is or have them join us outright. Vanessa however may not go on this action thus Max is the one who is going.

Diplomacy
Not only would this frees up Goofy to have him focus on his degree, Technor is also suitable for the job. The City Council description said that we are going to add an assistance robot to the council. Then who else is more fit for it beside the robot with specialty in Psychology?

Stewardship
Express Delivery or Develop a new social media platform is the best place to assign Coyote as he is the Ex-Chairman of ACME and a Toon who is generally the Master of Entertainment. Choosing the Develop a new social media platform this turn would not only be the start of us competing with ENCOM, it will also show the general populace that employing Toons actually provided results without us actually have to respond to Doom's Slander and looked weak by being seen doing Pro-Supers action by mere propaganda. Improve Recycling Programs will lower the DC of Greevil Energy Campaign. Lovemuffin is assigned to Recycling as I am not too worried on leaving them alone to make a talking trash can. While having Mirage buying Lee Industries is to recruit Janus Lee. Someone who can fill in our second Diplomacy option next turn. The point of Stewardship this turn is to prepare for the next one.

Intrigue
These two option has been sitting around for so long and this is a good time to choose them to hinder our enemies operations. If we expose Hawk then Doom will land on a massive political scandal after his mass press that would have his Diplomacy Hero run around doing damage control, interrupting his Anti-Toon propaganda that he is doing, making the general populace question his earlier speech, and having whoever it is in L.A with him have more chance on pressuring Doom. Meanwhile we really should go take a look at whatever the hell is up with the Drug Ring as they are just bulldozing everything in their path. Having info on them also will be a good gift to Shego once we reached out to her next turn. Russ will be on Hawk as he is more familiar with L.A and was the one who found Hawk in the first place while Tobe can go investigate the Drug Ring as his ingauration test his Ninja Origin should appreciate.

Learning
Dino Domestication and Adaptive Anti-Cape AI is for removing Jumba's Hungry for Science trait, and to open up options that would improve the new Social Media Coyote Make with Dinosaur entertainment, give Temujin his new Dino Steed and search further into betterring the AI system for Norm.

Occult
We need another Occult Hero to free Janna up with excavate Chicken Itza option. Enough said.

Personal Actions
Doof
: We need to finish making up with Roger and finally have Occult Stat. I at first want to make the musical, but some prefers to have them when we make up with Roger so that he could enjoyed it and maybe even take part of it. Chat with the Bossman is for Doof to know what's up with Janna's extreme reaction to Toffee. Browsing also maybe will brought something nice to our attention as well.
Goofy: We need to know what his secrets are and the best way to do it is through making Goofy get his degree and then have him reveal it through Chat with the Bossman. It has a clear goal of only needed to be taken three time to finish while the other personal action is Vague. I am pretty sure that Mickey and Pete action would lead us to another Search Quest that more likely than not only have us found a bigger clue like what happened in Peru while Gardening option more likely will land Goofy a trait related to it.
Genghis Khan: Temujin is due his incorporation with modern times. Having him study Tech should let us erase his Artfact of the Past Trait that gave him -30 when dealing with Techology and have him able to do some Martial Action with his full 55 Martial Stat such as refitting his Mongol Troops with laser weapons, build a roof mounted Laser Cannons, and etc.
Francis Monogram: Better finish the reorganization so that Monogram could be more usefull.
Dennis: Dennis had gone beefed with him joining up Doof's, and Temujin's boot camp. Maybe with this his other Stat will go up as well as he is studying?
Hego: Should make the option of reaching out to Shego even easier next turn.
Vanessa: This option is most likely similar to Norm's follow Father around option and considering that Doof is basically helping organize every Hero units on National Action, I want to see can Vanessa help's Max through this or not. Thus having the two most likely Hero Units suitable to deal with the Resistance on the job at the same time.
Bug Queen Lizzie: personal action
 
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How do we know Lizzie's that strong of a Stewardship hero?

Well, judging by her pips, she'd, at the very max, have thirty Stewardship... but it's more than likely that she has around fifteen Stewardship.

I'd rather commit Dr. von Drake to some other Learning action. Jumba gets a specific bonus to GalFed tech, doesn't he? I'd rather have a better chance of critting on that action, since a crit is more likely to net us immediate rewards or multiple projects.

I mean... we kinda can't have Jumba do that yet. He's currently "Hungry For Science", so he needs to either do a personal action or research something with genetics.

Bear in mind that a lot of quest actions have DCs of, like, 80 or more. Having a combined bonus in the 30s is not reassuring.

Plus, as we've seen, even with a -10 to all DCs, many DCs can still be over a hundred... including the Peru one. So without a high Stewardship person on the team, they may not even be able to find the place. Heck, the trek there may have a DC over a hundred itself, meaning we'd need to roll ridiculously high to actually succeed.
 
Time to vote on Toffee!

[X] Don't Take Toffee's Deal

As I said before, the red text is very compelling. Also I don't like Toffee, and think his goals are pretty much mutually exclusive with ours in the long run.
 
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