- Location
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No, you we're making wildly inappropriate accusations of us causing worldwide miscarriages that Arath told us to drop.
No, you we're making wildly inappropriate accusations of us causing worldwide miscarriages that Arath told us to drop.
The problem is that the thread itself and the playerbase is divided on that.I was pointing out the consequences to the common person. At this point I would honestly prefer if the thread decided on a firm path. Either A) caring about the common man, ceasing the use of inators, and dedicating Doof to well be a person or B) forge Doof's path as a mad tyrant and make Doof's delusions the reality. The half and half version of things the thread has been going for hasn't worked.
Personal I Believe.Did hero actions mean for National Actions, Personal Actions, or both?
Hmm. Let us start comparing timelines! At 2:05 whatever timezone Sufficient Velocity displays time in I made a comment about the inator being unambiguously evil. Four minutes l mentioned in the discord that after thinking about the deaths that the inator caused, the opposite thought had popped up, what was the affect on births? I mentioned miscarriages, and twins, and the like. The two of us had an argument and then Arathnorn said to drop the conversation.No, you we're making wildly inappropriate accusations of us causing worldwide miscarriages that Arath told us to drop.
This is an extremely good point that I had not thought of when saying that.The problem is that the thread itself and the playerbase is divided on that.
Huh. Do you mind saying where that was said? I thought it was a national action thing.
You responded to my comment about you making accusations of horrible things and discord with saying that all you were doing was pointing out consequences on the common people, then I put what you were saying in perspective. I don't care about any of the other responses you made, I'm not part of those conversations.Then Arch responded to my claim of it being unambiguously evil and I made a comment about being able to see his perspective along with pointing out what exactly made me say that (see the spoiler below).
I then responded to your comment to Arch's comment and I focused entirely on how the thread has played Doof and my opinion that the thread should not ignore how Doof's actions affect the common individual unless it decided to go that path to the max. I also admitted that the Crit-inator seemed to help Xanatos and the Feds more than it hurt (in the short term anyways), so I moved on.
In my reply to lifeandlice I focused on the actual rolls we could see and how they seemed to be worse than the good.
Where in my reply did I bring up what Arathnorn requested what we drop?
I was pointing out the consequences to the common person. At this point I would honestly prefer if the thread decided on a firm path. Either A) caring about the common man, ceasing the use of inators, and dedicating Doof to well be a person or B) forge Doof's path as a mad tyrant and make Doof's delusions the reality. The half and half version of things the thread has been going for hasn't worked.
Those responses absolutely are relevant because in all of those comments I only pointed out the things that the probabil-inator did to the people of the world. IE, things we are responsible for in part. And I also pointed out how it probably did (in part) make some things better for them in the short term and how we didn't exactly make the decision of our free will.You responded to my comment about you making accusations of horrible things and discord with saying that all you were doing was pointing out consequences on the common people, then I put what you were saying in perspective. I don't care about any of the other responses you made, I'm not part of those conversations.
How would we do that? Doof's view of himself as a dictator is in direct competition with the idea of what is best for the common man.I´d say that we *Can* do both - we just need to be *smart/pragmatic* about it, which seems to be a hard concept to grasp for some, unfortuantely.
Point of clarification: That was in Crossroads' Negaverse scenario (in which Nega Doof was completely unhinged), not the main world where most of the game takes place.Or hope for a Crossroads-esque balkanization, except not so horribly awful?
I've been saying this in the thread already, but I want to point out again that I don't think we can trust that the federal government is what's best for the average civilian in the long term. They're probably going to be a big help against the likes of Toffee, but the Illuminati are real in this setting and have an unclear relationship with Bill Cipher.How would we do that? Doof's view of himself as a dictator is in direct competition with the idea of what is best for the common man.
I think you are saying we should get Doof to a point where he provides better stuff for Doofanians than the local/federal government and then force the issue? Or hope for a Crossroads-esque balkanization, except not so horribly awful?
I think a better example would be hoping for an Age of Strife and turning Doofania into an fanon-Interex of sorts?
[ ] Investigate the San Fransokyo Cult
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Agent Russ brought back some interesting news from San Fransokyo. Apparently there's a group of 'like-minded individuals' who all dress in red with weird symbols on their robes, marching around the docks and performing community service. You have no idea what to make of it, but it sounds sufficiently cultlike to you... maybe something will come out of it if you investigate?
I feel that the US Government can be trusted to deal with it's own interests, and to have a lot of competing interests in play. I personally don't think Bill would want the Dream Queen locked up, as Russ did.I've been saying this in the thread already, but I want to point out again that I don't think we can trust that the federal government is what's best for the average civilian in the long term. They're probably going to be a big help against the likes of Toffee, but the Illuminati are real in this setting and have an unclear relationship with Bill Cipher.
I don't think that open conflict with the feds is the best course of action right now, and a degree of cooperation is a good idea, but we need to account for the chance that Bill is pulling their strings. I'd prefer that we be ready to turn Doofania into reality on a dime if the people who paid Stanford Pines to build the Reagan's mind control tie turn out to be planning to sacrifice humanity for Bill's promise of godhood or something similar.
Right at the very top, there's going to be a personal called "Catch up on Paperwork"
And then another one at the very bottom of the list, with the exact same description.
I want to laugh but a mobius strip of legalese sounds like hell.
The thing is that there is no legalese supporting Doof's delusions. Literally, the only way to make Doofania stop being a thing is talking to Doof, because there's literally nothing else supporting the idea.Rejoin The Union In Legalese Alone
OK, you have to admit, the fact Doof is still touting himself as a dictator of a sovereign nation is... really aggravating. It probably wouldn't be too hard to open a line with the US, fill out some paperwork, and rejoin the Union...
Without telling Doof.
You'll just spin it as getting all his taxes straight when he comes out of cryotherapy. It should be fine.
Right?
While I don't agree with the sentiment of giving up on Doofania, this seems like it would be an actual logical approach to rebuilding ties with the government.What she could try is to setup "Ambassadors to the US" that are actually just regular corporate lobbyists.
Diplomacy:
Get Together The Council Of The Semi-Sane
OK, that needs a better name. But the idea's there, and dare you say it, it's one of the doctor's better ideas. Though. He hasn't put any effort into it.
Now's your chance to fix that. Reach out to a handful of Kings, test the waters, see if they're willing and able.. Maybe you can all make something of this broken world yet.
And take care of that toxic jungle, that thing's really unsettling.
Oh hey, I had a few ideas for MirageQuest writins I hope for DCs on, @Made in Heaven and @Arathnorn
*sniff* I am so proud of our chaotic