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I was only informed recently by some British friends after writing something where it was used in that same context.
 
Mojave said:
Just a heads up so you and other folks know in future. Bugger is a homophobic slur.
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...*Anything* can be used as a slur with just the "right" effort - doesn´t mean that we should abandon fringe case words like "bugger" (especially since it´s not that bad a word for Brits) to homophobes and let them "win" that way.

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Also, not reading anything about it being homophobic here at least.

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I'm pretty sure "bugger" just means "buttsex". It's a corruption of "Bulgar", who in medieval times had a group of people who weren't against sex but were against childbirth (viewing it as immoral to bring a child into a horrible world) and avoided it through... well, like I said.
 
I'm not going to touch this conversation with a 50 foot pole so how about we change the subject...

What do you guys think we could get from each King if we were to somehow bring them down, with or without help?
 
Lord Ultimus said:
I'm pretty sure "bugger" just means "buttsex". It's a corruption of "Bulgar", who in medieval times had a group of people who weren't against sex but were against childbirth (viewing it as immoral to bring a child into a horrible world) and avoided it through... well, like I said.
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A bit of looking tells me that it's mainly a reference to Sodomy.
 
Unless somebody can explain how this is on topic, move to a new one. If you somehow think this is on topic, you're wrong. Find a new topic. Like how George Clooney became president in the Spy Kids timeline.

@TheGleeman I don't know if you could convince the US government and other corporate factions to go with the special zoning suggestion you have. Except Mark Beaks making one of those insane "smart city" vanity projects, but he could do that without you if he got enough traction and cheap desert land.
 
weredrago2 said:
Unless somebody can explain how this is on topic, move to a new one. If you somehow think this is on topic, you're wrong. Find a new topic. Like how George Clooney became president in the Spy Kids timeline.

@TheGleeman I don't know if you could convince the US government and other corporate factions to go with the special zoning suggestion you have. Except Mark Beaks making one of those insane "smart city" vanity projects, but he could do that without you if he got enough traction and cheap desert land.
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Well, I am simply throwing ideas how to reconcile multiple possibly conflicting wishes at the wall and hoping something sticks for once.
 
TheGleeman said:
You know, I am currently thinking about how to reconcile our wish to remain "Supreme Ruler of the Tri-State Area" with not pissing off Uncle Same or the other Kings with it .'

...What about getting the Feds to reorganize the continental USA into different "Economic Support Commonwealths" managed by the Corps most influential in each given Commonwealth? Officially to allow the different States to better prepare for devastations wrought by calamities like the Famine.
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Openly conceding so much power to private monopolies (and ones run by supervillains at that) would be extremely damaging to the US government's public image and leverage.
 
MrCogmor said:
Openly conceding so much power to private monopolies (and ones run by supervillains at that) would be extremely damaging to the US government's public image and leverage.
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It wouldn´t be a concession, it would be a *delegation of work under very specific circumstances* - also, the Feds would still have the last word thanks to that "Board of Organisators" idea.

Basically "do this for us while recognizing our ultimate authority and I am giving you quite a bit of leeway *HOW* to do it" to better combat inter-State problems like the Famine.

I admit though, that it´d require a lot of goodwill from everyone involved to work.
 
TheGleeman said:
It wouldn´t be a concession, it would be a *delegation of work under very specific circumstances* - also, the Feds would still have the last word thanks to that "Board of Organisators" idea.

Basically "do this for us while recognizing our ultimate authority and I am giving you quite a bit of leeway *HOW* to do it" to better combat inter-State problems like the Famine.

I admit though, that it´d require a lot of goodwill from everyone involved to work.
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It absolutely would be a concession. It is granting specific companies incredible official leeway and power. Imagine the reaction if the SEC was officially privatized and given to Elon Musk. It would destroy public trust.
 
MrCogmor said:
It absolutely would be a concession. It is granting specific companies incredible official leeway and power. Imagine the reaction if the SEC was officially privatized and given to Elon Musk. It would destroy public trust.
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...The what?

Anyway, fair enough. So we just abandon all hopes of ever making either Doofania or the Council a reality and go back to seeing everyone not DEI as enemies to be crushed (like so many do on this thread) instead of rivals that we might be able to find at least some common ground with (like me and a scant few others are trying to)?

Sad, but apparently nothing else works.
 
TheGleeman said:
...The what?

Anyway, fair enough. So we just abandon all hopes of ever making either Doofania or the Council a reality and go back to seeing everyone not DEI as enemies to be crushed (like so many do on this thread) instead of rivals that we might be able to find at least some common ground with (like me and a scant few others are trying to)?

Sad, but apparently nothing else works.
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If government falls other Kings quite likely would band together to support order. If on the other hand everyone business is good and everyone compete for contracts and markets then there is no reason for other Kings to gather as any kind of ruling body. Thus for becoming fully independent and/or making King Council you would need to deal with government first, or wait until something would happen to it.
 
bigking321 said:
What are you talking about?

We took the actions to get them to agree to collaborate last turn then picked what we were collabing on this turn.

It was entirely us going to them.
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..I coulda sworn that we approached about collabs this turn and didn´t do anything on our own there.

My mistake then.

But even then, most voters seem to be in favor of an extremly belligerent playstyle towards other Kings, with little room for concessions and only begruding cooperation - that´s all I am going on about.
 
TheGleeman said:
But even then, most voters seem to be in favor of an extremly belligerent playstyle towards other Kings, with little room for concessions and only begruding cooperation - that´s all I am going on about.
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Hey! I am all for collaboration and making friends, just with the right individuals: Shego and Xanatos? All for it! Shere Khan? Why not? Doom and Toffee? Not on your life.
 
nwish425 said:
Hey! I am all for collaboration and making friends, just with the right individuals: Shego and Xanatos? All for it! Shere Khan? Why not? Doom and Toffee? Not on your life.
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Drossel and maybe DEavor as well.

Speaking of which, while a while ago I explicitly doubted that Glomgold would make a good First Generation member of that Council of the Semi-Reasonable, we might not have a choice in the matter.

Why?

Because it wouldn´t surprise me if he were vindictive/petty enough to simply stall the Council by throwing his Money Reserves of YES agaisnt it if we exclude him from our little "Rich People Club".

Meaning that yes, having him onboard would be annoying as fuck, but *Not* having him onboard might very well be WORSE on account of his ridiculous economic/Stew power.

Something to think about.
 
I might as well, here are my thoughts on each King and the possibility of collaboration and making friends.

AUTO: I don't think it's possible, he'll just try and abduct any human he finds.

MCP: He hates us for existing and being human, plus we want the Grid.

King Candy: I don't think it's possible to befriend the cybugs.

Negaduck: No, just no.

Waternoose: If we find him it's automatic war.

Phobos: Know little about him but I think it's not likely at best.

David Nix: Again know little about him, but I'm guessing no.

Glomgold: While possible I don't even remotely trust that duck and fully expect him to betray us at some point.

Judge Doom: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha no.

DOR-15: Hard no, I am not down with the mind controlling hats, slag the lot of them.

Shego: All for it, we've already made some progress on that front, plus the jokes about them dating will never get old.

GalFed: Probably a good idea to try bit difficult to pull off, especially since we have Jumba with us.

Abraham Kane: I know little about him but from what I do know we should consider him an enemy, period.

Evelyn Deavor: We already got to the point of collaborations but I still don't trust her, for now I consider her a ticking time bomb

Toffee: Conflict with him is inevitable, I want him gone.

Bill:

Drossel: I want to make contact sooner or later, preferably sooner.

Ohmu: Hopefully we can find a way to establish contact and relocate them.

Xanatos: Already made great progress, I want to break that poker face.

Yokai: We've made progress but still have no IC knowledge of him being a King, would be a great ally if we can pull it off.

Bellwether: She would've darted Perry the Platypus if she had the opportunity, enough said.


Anyone else's thoughts?
 
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I don´t trust Glomgold to not betray us at one point either, but again: Having him in our Council gives us some control over what he does as well as some forewarning for when he does betray us.

Again, he´s less distruptive as an member of the Council than he is as an outright enemy.

...It´s a bit like the Legion of Doom and the Joker like that - lotta hassle as member, *even more* hassle as not a member.
 
TheGleeman said:
I don´t trust Glomgold to not betray us at one point either, but again: Having him in our Council gives us some control over what he does as well as some forewarning for when he does betray us.

Again, he´s less distruptive as an member of the Council than he is as an outright enemy.

...It´s a bit like the Legion of Doom and the Joker like that - lotta hassle as member, *even more* hassle as not a member.
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I would like it if we keep Drossel a secret then if we go that route, only let a few members that we trust know about her so she can serve as a wild card the potential traitors like Glomgold can't account for.
 
nwish425 said:
I would like it if we keep Drossel a secret then if we go that route, only let a few members that we trust know about her so she can serve as a wild card the potential traitors like Glomgold can't account for.
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"Members we trust" to that extent pretty much begins and ends with Xanatos and Shego

...we really are a surprisingly cohesive triad on our own, huh?
 
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