Do magicial high school light novels exist in magical high school light novels?

Do magical high school light novels exist in magical high school light novels?


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Not sure if this should be here or the chat lounge. Sorry to be redundant. But do magical high school novels exist in magical high schools. I'm referring to the series of light novels, manga and anime. You may include non-Japanese fiction as answers.
Here are some examples:
Mahou Sensei Negima!
Tokyo Ravens
Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei (The Irregular at Magic High School)
 
It gets brought up by Chisame that it's basically like a manga/light novel plot. The masquerade is largely upheld by how profoundly silly it can get, and if you want to get conspiracist about it, a good way to maintain the masquerade is to promote a lot of related fiction, so that even if something leaks through it gets dismissed as fake.
 
Strictly speaking, I feel that the existence of magical high school LNs in the setting presented in a magical high school LN to be quite likely. People are still going to write novels even if there's magic being flung around.

The MHSLN's would likely be dividable into two main categories:

1) those that we, in the real world, would classify as MHSLN's but would be considered, say, a slice-of-life story by those living in the LN's setting, due to the existence of the magical high school just being another aspect of reality for them;

2) those that are considered to be MHSLN's both in-setting and out-of-setting, likely because its depiction of its magical system and/or magical high school differ from the way either or both of the ones present in the LN's setting (like, say, if the Harry Potter books were a thing people read in the Mahouka setting).

If the magical world and its magical high school are a secret from the rest of their world, this gives rise to two more categories which are probably published by/for the non-magical portion of the setting:

A) those that reflect the reality of the setting's magical portion, be it by intent or by pure chance;

B) those that portray a magical setting that is different from the native magical portion.
 
HPMoR had a joke about this. A character claimed to be a "double witch" - someone who appears to be an ordinary Hogwarts student, but actually goes to a secret school inside Hogwarts where they learn awesome magical powers. That is, more awesome and secret than the secret magical school that normal witches and wizards go to.
 
The other light novels exist if it would be funny for them to exist, and they don't exist if it would be inconvenient to the plot.

Since these are factors which can change within the same story (or even the same scene) , the other light novels can be though of as being in a superposition, like Schoedingers cat. Whenever someone breaks the 4th wall, it collapses the wave function, causing them to either exist or not until the system is reset and the uncertainty returns.

Quantum mechanics: making absolutely everything more confusing since 1927®.
 
I think it'd be interesting if a world had them but the popular versions didn't resemble the ones in that world- they were legitimately created independently.
 
For Negima I would say absolutely because most of the girls know their magical series/RPG terminology from the start, including a couple fantasizing about being magical girls. They also point out situations and characters that are out of place in a fantasy rpg game type setting without speaking to the audience or breaking the fourth wall. They just make a mention how X should not happen in a game or X person is a broken character.
 
In a setting with a masquerade, they would have the same collection of LNs we have (except, presumably, the series in question, since in that world it would be real and secret information).

In a setting without a masquerade, they would have slice-of-life and action LNs set in their known magical high schools just as we have non-magical slice of life and action LNs set in non-magical high schools. I suspect "it's like our world, but with different magic" LNs would be quite rare, though probably not entirely absent - the equivalent of dieselpunk or steampunk, rather than fantasy.

So in either case, yes, barring some other cultural change that prevented the existence of a popular publishing industry.
 
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