Meanwhile, chat's asking the truly important questions: an old man held prisoner in a box. To murder or not to murder?
Can you point me to where? I really don't see it.
Deep Red (Avatar: The Last Airbender)
- Thread starter kosm
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Can you point me to where? I really don't see it.
RoninSword
Sky God
- Location
- Canada
We were having a discussion over on fiction.live chat what to do with Bumi if/when we got him in the metal box in canon. One possibility was simply executing him. Others are trying to move him out of Omashu so that he wouldn't liberate the city like he did in canon.
Executing him would probably be the practical thing to do, I have to say.
If he's to be taken prisoner could give him the rig treatment, instead you know without 23432432 tons of coal and a boat made of wood XD. To transfer him there, drug him or use that weird animal with the paralyzing saliva.
- Location
- California
Execution would be the most pragmatic option.
Gh055twr1t3r
Idle Prophet
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- United States
We can't execute him if he surrenders. It sets a bad precedent.
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If you want Bumi arbitrarily executed after he surrenders, Akane needs way more military influence and to actually be in the room and capable of defeating him when the sentence is carried out. Otherwise you're just pitting Bumi against mooks offscreen and expecting the mooks to win.
Also you'll need an IC rationale for why Akane, who has repeatedly stated she wants to peacefully integrate the people of the EK and avoid alienating them, suddenly thinks it's a good idea to murder a prominent EK leader who's chosen to peacefully cooperate with the FN.
Also you'll need an IC rationale for why Akane, who has repeatedly stated she wants to peacefully integrate the people of the EK and avoid alienating them, suddenly thinks it's a good idea to murder a prominent EK leader who's chosen to peacefully cooperate with the FN.
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I said it would be pragmatic, Not that it would be the nice option.
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- Leeds
Its arguably only pragmatic because we know he'll reconquer Omashu when the eclipse happens and even then its debateable that we shouldn't just move him to one of the metal oil rig looking prisons. Take away that knowledge and your argument has no footing.
RoninSword
Sky God
- Location
- Canada
I prefer a wooden prison complex like what was used to house Ghazan from LoK rather than metal.
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- Leeds
I don't really care either way, however I doubt those where invented until there became a danger that the earth bending prisoner you are trying to restrain is also a metal bender.
Raiseth
I Find Your Lack of Memes Disturbing
- Location
- Russia
Well, for now it fails to be a realistic option and, therefore, pragmatic.
I hate to give suggestions in that direction, but the only reason you could give him to rescind his surrender first and attempt to kill you would be suggesting his imprisonment outside of Omashu. The farther, the better, so that he wouldn't have time to liberate his city during the eclipse and be able to realize it too. Ozai would approve.
Good luck trying to kill him tho. He's a 100+ years old Earth master who not only gave an Avatar run for his money without even being serious and singlehandedly destroyed a military force occupying a city, ( without their bending, granted ) he's also fabulously swag. Avatar Universe frowns upon people who try to kill fabulously swag persons. ( though then again, kosm isn't Avatar Universe. )
See you again in a month.
- Location
- Massachusetts
Does anyone know when the next session going to be?
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- Oblivion
If Akane attempts to take the city before Aang shows up Bumi is likely to fight to the bitter end.
And given how powerful he is, that end is very likely to be Akane's.
If Akane attempts to take the city after Aang shows up, there's a good chance Bumi would surrender, but if Akane then attempts to have Bumi killed or move him out of Omashu he will almost surely choose to escape early.
Apparently there's a Discord now with the stated goal of spitballing for an approach to the quest, though oddly enough, without kosm oversight and rather low on population relative to the quest readership?
It is rather odd that no one's brought this up before, but let's fix that mistake.
Join the Deep Red - Unfucking Everything Discord Server!
It is rather odd that no one's brought this up before, but let's fix that mistake.
Join the Deep Red - Unfucking Everything Discord Server!
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- Her Graciousness
Nice going lads with your 'My Will Is The Sun' shit then immediately disintegrating like a tissue in a monsoon. Ozai calling the players out for being self-justifying little shits was very satisfying. That he got the players to self-justify maiming Zuko was just perfect. I'm with Ozai, Fire Lord Forever.
Errrr.
That's a rather...hot take.
I mean, your core point that there was a comedy of errors that led to, well, that and that its reason enough for reevaluating some approaches to things is valid enough, but your last point is...
Phrasing?
Because just because Ozai can latch onto Akane's very real failures as reason to maliciously tear her down and try to rebuild her in his own image doesn't mean he isn't also, well, Ozai.
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- Her Graciousness
Just expressing my support for the best character in the quest :^) So very rarely are players criticized in world for their decision-making skills. I'd just finished catching up myself and found the way the players would always vote for the 'smart-sounding' write-in no matter how consistent they were being very grating and my nigga Ozai took the words right out of my mouth. What a guy. I love him.
It is a shame that the players have burned that bridge between Akane and her father. I was looking forward to more of that but maybe fresh pastures are better for the overall story. I expect Azura will be named heir because she does not disappoint Ozai so much (funny how she is finally eclipsing Akane without having to duel at all), but I hope the author can keep the story separate from the canon cast or at least mix it up. This has been very interesting so far and I hope it does not turn into 'The Legend of Aang (and Akane and Mitsuko)' like so many other stories. I have faith though, the author has been working miracles so far.
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...Phrasing.
And Ozai was...not a viable contact. At all. I'm pretty sure this is actually a very bad case of misaimed fandom, but, you do get that Ozai is the enemy of everyone not a fellow genocidal pyromaniac at the top of the Fire Nation food chain and completely insane to boot, right?
Uhh, Kosm actually said she regretted making the relationship between Akane and Ozai purely antagonistic. It's not purely the player's doing.
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WinterLantern
Smoked bird
- Location
- North England
Disappointed at the lack of activity with this thread during a live. If anybody is curious at the current chat state, it dis
Gh055twr1t3r
Idle Prophet
- Location
- United States
Isn't that what chat always is?
WinterLantern
Smoked bird
- Location
- North England
It's great tho, loada fun to take part in and shit usually goes pretty good
Gh055twr1t3r
Idle Prophet
- Location
- United States
Welp since things got derailed in chat and I actually think this is a good topic, what form of governance would you guys use for the EK?
- Location
- Castle Drakenhof
Parliament the shit out of that monarchy. Break the EK into individual states/provinces/whatever, drawing on old borders as much is reasonable, and assign representatives based on population and other factors. An industrial town with strong ties to the national economy would have more sway than a town of substinince farmers with equal population. The exact numbers would be tricky.
As the EK is freakin huge, organize the provinces into separate regions, with a head administrator to run the region and act as the other half of the balance of power. From there, representatives from the national parliament are voted upon by the parliament and approved by the administrator, and form the national body which serves as a balance to the Earth King, in the running of the nation. Add in a judicial system with a chain of command that runs up to the federal government, independent of regional governments to act as a moderating force, and you have a clodged together something that'll work. Until communications technology is advanced enough to shrink the EK enough to cut out the middleman, and regional governments can be folded into the federal.