Vote tally - Dark Prince of Camelot

Adhoc vote count started by Gally on May 8, 2018 at 8:18 PM, finished with 64 posts and 21 votes.

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Dark Prince of Camelot
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  • [X] We don't have many, if any, options. She has already shown that she can and will leave the city with ease in order to find somewhere or someone to cope with. Don't say you can keep her from doing that either, you'll just end up stifling her if you somehow do watch her that much somehow and/or she'll successfully slip away somewhen.
    -[X] It's also lose/lose from where I'm looking at this from. If I push her away and keep her away then she'll go elsewhere and be hurting from me pushing her away on top of that. If I don't then I'll likely end up... poisoning her even when I'm doing everything I can not to.
    --[X] So tell me, since I definitely appear to be my mother's son with all these good intentions I have, what do we do? Because I can tell you now, unless it's Gemma who chooses to not see me, then this conversation is pointless. She'll find a way to self-destruct with or without me until she makes the choice to stop.
    [X] Agree, you have no idea how you can help, but you are pretty sure you ARE making things worse. Until you have a better plan than digging deeper faster than ever, you'd stay away from her. But you can't and won't make her stay away from you.
    [X] We don't have many, if any, options. She has already shown that she can and will leave the city with ease in order to find somewhere or someone to cope with. Don't say you can keep her from doing that either, you'll just end up stifling her if you somehow do watch her that much somehow and/or she'll successfully slip away somewhen.
    -[X] So it's also lose/lose from where I'm looking at this from. If I push her away and keep her away then she'll go elsewhere and be hurting from me pushing her away on top of that. If I don't then I'll likely end up... poisoning her even when I'm doing everything I can not to.
    --[X] So tell me, since I definitely appear to be my mother's son with all these good intentions I have, what do we do? Because I can tell you now, unless it's Gemma who chooses to not see me, then this conversation is pointless. She'll find a way to self-destruct with or without me until she makes the choice to stop.
    [X]Ask Ginny if we can go to her for advice in the future so we don't do anything stupid. She cares about Gemma and her friends and can offer another point of view. We don't really have anyone we can talk to about stuff like this to point out if we're making a mistake, and asking Ginny to make sure we act sensibly might convince her to let us live.
    [X] Agree, as things stand right now you and Gemma are toxic. But avoiding the issue isn't going to solve anything. You and Gemma really need to talk about this like adults about your issues and establish some boundaries. Whether that talk leads to anything besides friendship is up in the air, but the talk needs to happen.
    -[X] Give Gemma a few days to cool off first.
    [X] "I don't think me running away from her will do anything. If anything it's one of the issues in the first place. Are you going to stay away from her as well, because from what I've seen this whole situation is one giant spiral that doesn't end well for anyone and that's the underlying problem."
    [X] "I'm not trying to blame you, and I know I fucked up quite a bit in the past, but as you said there's a lot going on right now with everyone.
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