Crimson Festival [F/SN]
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MysteriousOldGuy
MOG is a good shorthand, as well.
Name: Shinji Matou
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Nationality: Japanese
First Motivation:
Second Motivation:
Abilities:
Unique Skills (if any):
None
Innocence:
3
Complications (if any):
Boons (if any):
Boon of Skill (Supernatural Reflexes.)
Boon of Talent (Mystic Eyes of Hypnotism)
Boon of Knowledge
Curses (if any):
Truths:
Gah, got the bones of my sheet up.
I imagine this character of Shinji went a somewhat different route, and became....
Delinquent.
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Nationality: Japanese
First Motivation:
Second Motivation:
Abilities:
Unique Skills (if any):
None
Innocence:
3
Complications (if any):
Boons (if any):
Boon of Skill (Supernatural Reflexes.)
Boon of Talent (Mystic Eyes of Hypnotism)
Boon of Knowledge
Curses (if any):
Truths:
Gah, got the bones of my sheet up.
I imagine this character of Shinji went a somewhat different route, and became....
Delinquent.
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... OK, so apart from a shred of magical talent and the ability to throw/take a punch, how's this Shinji different from canon?
What's his motivation? There's Magic and Rage. Singe words do not exactly explain the deep driving forces that make Shinji what he is. Also, you seem to be short a Curse.
Although, I do admit to chuckling at the Truth 'Nothing Shall Harm My Face'.
MysteriousOldGuy
MOG is a good shorthand, as well.
Yep, I was just getting the bare bones on here, so I can refine them later.
There's an entire back-story I have to write down, starting with Shinji hating everyone in his household, Zouken, Sakura, and even himself. Zouken, for turning the Matou's into a disgustingly wretched family. Sakura for being able to use magic while he can't. And himself, for the pain he knows Sakura endures, because he lacks magic, and how every second in her presence is a constant reminder of his own crushing natural failures, his own shortcomings, and how he is never going to be able to lead the Matou's out of the cruel spiral of death and fucking insects.
How he learned exactly what happened to his uncle, and Sakura, from Zouken, when he showed too much backbone, and and the Old Worm decided it was time for a verbal smack-down.
How he hates pretty much all Magi, because he thinks that all of them would do the same things as Zouken and Tokiomi, and envies their magic with all his heart, because he thinks it would allow him to make the Matou's great again, instead of the festering mess they are now, and open the path to cleanse the world of these monsters called 'Magi.'
Following him through his schooling years, as per GM note 'Bloody' Shinji turned to violence and Rage, getting into fights constantly, becoming what the Japanese term 'delinquent', and embracing it, because he enjoys beating the crap out of people.
How.....
And it goes on.
I have so much more to write. And so little time.
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MysteriousOldGuy, I'm sorry to say it but you're doing this completely wrong.
I'll start by noting the mistakes in the character sheet.
First of all, this barely even means anything. Motivated by 'magic'? What am I supposed to use that for? Pretty much same thing with RAGE. Neither actually help me see what Shinji cares about.
This is putting aside that technically, given you're playing a canon character variant, you're not actually supposed to determine the base motivations anyway. You can certainly come with suggestions, but you have no way to account for how the AU changes everything.
Aside from some of these being a little "eh" to me, they're technically fine, except that you've managed to spend a point too many and that you're not supposed to actually stat Shinji as a canon character - at least, not just yet.
Not an acceptable complication. It needs to directly impact the character's life in a bad way. Being really obviously angry isn't really in the same ballpark as having Association killteams after you.
I reject Boons of Knowledge that are not specific because do I look like I can be arsed to do all that research and then make up a plan for you?
You have completely misunderstood Truths.
Truths are things like:
"Kiritsugu is alive."
"London was nuked in the second World War."
"Japan turned commie."
"Kayneth is alive."
"Zouken is dead."
etc. etc.
A statement about the world which is made true.
Also, to reiterate, they're supposed to be secret.
Nope, you don't, because I don't even know if Zouken is still alive, or what exactly has happened to Sakura - though I will ensure things happen to let the Shinji variants exist - much less Kariya, Shinji's dad, Aoi, or any of another set of important factors.
MysteriousOldGuy
MOG is a good shorthand, as well.
Alright, well, like I said to Shaderic, this is bare bones stuff, for the most part. I intend to change most of it.
Most of these were placeholders, that I could put there, and come back and put in the true meaning afterwards, while I kept writing.
For example.
First Motivation: Magic-
Second Motivation: RAGE-
First Motivation: Shinji, above all else, seeks to be able to use powerful Magic.
Second Motivation: Shinji is furious at all those who call themselves 'Magi' and thinks them monsters, and intends to wipe them from the earth.
This part, I did not understand. Alright, I'll wait for you to give me Shinji's motivations.
9 points spent total, 6 points from start, 3 points from 3 Innocence spent. And I did not know that.
I thought that having anyone he knows to be Magi, subconsciously knowing that he hates them, would directly impact his life.
I thought you'd just Google a few notable Japanese legends, pick out some random items, and scatter them around Japan, and hammer out a few Quests Shinji had to do to get them, but alright, something else, then.
Alright, noted. I'll PM you the next set of Truths I come up with, and erase these ones.
Okay, so no planning back-story until everything is in place, got it.
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@MysteriousOldGuy
Right now, what I want from you above all, is a reason why you playing Shinji would be interesting. Why would it be fun for me to GM your Shinji? What amazing and hilarious plan do you have? What do you intend to do?
The backstory, the skills, the Truths. All of those aren't nearly as important as knowing what your Shinji wants to do in the Grail War, and how that will be interesting to deal with for me.
Also
"Just"? That's a lot of work right there. Find mythic artefacts, place them, determine the guards and then provide a plan. For multiple items. That's easily an hours work for each of them.
And I'm going to have a lot of players already.
Right now, what I want from you above all, is a reason why you playing Shinji would be interesting. Why would it be fun for me to GM your Shinji? What amazing and hilarious plan do you have? What do you intend to do?
The backstory, the skills, the Truths. All of those aren't nearly as important as knowing what your Shinji wants to do in the Grail War, and how that will be interesting to deal with for me.
Also
"Just"? That's a lot of work right there. Find mythic artefacts, place them, determine the guards and then provide a plan. For multiple items. That's easily an hours work for each of them.
And I'm going to have a lot of players already.
MysteriousOldGuy
MOG is a good shorthand, as well.
Hmm.
I intend to play Shinji as somehow of a delinquent. A person who fights, because it lets him work of steam, and because he actually enjoys it. Still arrogant, still grating, but all with the intent to get into a fight. Because when he fights, he can forget how messed-up both he and his 'family' is.
Perhaps he forms friendships with other people, after fighting, and no longer has only a select few people he hangs out with. Maybe he forms his own underground 'fight club', for other teens who want to fight people. Perhaps, he does not make friend with Shirou, and instead, Shirou sees him as one of the people he has to fight against, rather than save, as a 'hero'.
I'll play him as a person who has no problem with normal people, or even people who use magic, only with those who call themselves 'Magi' or 'Magus', because everything they do, seems to end up causing suffering for everyone involved.
I intend for him to fight against the Masters of the war who are Magi, while ignoring or attempting to ally with 'normal people'. Even if he has no Servant, or magic of his own, he intends to fight for a chance to make a Wish, a wish to obtain Magic strong enough to wipe away every Magi who would sacrifice others, in a mad attempt to gain access to 'Root' of theirs.
As for making it amazing and hilarious, well......
I'd need more information on what the setting is going to be like. I can't plan well, if I don't know what's going on, or what has happened before.
I intend to play Shinji as somehow of a delinquent. A person who fights, because it lets him work of steam, and because he actually enjoys it. Still arrogant, still grating, but all with the intent to get into a fight. Because when he fights, he can forget how messed-up both he and his 'family' is.
Perhaps he forms friendships with other people, after fighting, and no longer has only a select few people he hangs out with. Maybe he forms his own underground 'fight club', for other teens who want to fight people. Perhaps, he does not make friend with Shirou, and instead, Shirou sees him as one of the people he has to fight against, rather than save, as a 'hero'.
I'll play him as a person who has no problem with normal people, or even people who use magic, only with those who call themselves 'Magi' or 'Magus', because everything they do, seems to end up causing suffering for everyone involved.
I intend for him to fight against the Masters of the war who are Magi, while ignoring or attempting to ally with 'normal people'. Even if he has no Servant, or magic of his own, he intends to fight for a chance to make a Wish, a wish to obtain Magic strong enough to wipe away every Magi who would sacrifice others, in a mad attempt to gain access to 'Root' of theirs.
As for making it amazing and hilarious, well......
I'd need more information on what the setting is going to be like. I can't plan well, if I don't know what's going on, or what has happened before.
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I've been mulling it over in my head, and frankly, you just haven't managed to "wow" me, and I'm already getting pretty flooded with concepts. I'm not going to say that it's impossible to figure something out, but at the same time I'm not going to spend cognitive resources on helping you, and I doubt that you'll manage anything that'll impress me enough given how many characters I've already got incoming.
So yeah. Sorry, I don't think I'll be accepting you. Thanks for giving it a shot, but it's a buyers market, and I've got some really good concepts from strong players, and I'm still wondering which of them to cut so I don't burn out.
Best I can do, unfortunately, is offer any other would-be GMs to fork the game, so if you have a friend you could badger into running it, go ahead.
Otherwise, I hope you've at least found it worth your time to give it a shot.
So yeah. Sorry, I don't think I'll be accepting you. Thanks for giving it a shot, but it's a buyers market, and I've got some really good concepts from strong players, and I'm still wondering which of them to cut so I don't burn out.
Best I can do, unfortunately, is offer any other would-be GMs to fork the game, so if you have a friend you could badger into running it, go ahead.
Otherwise, I hope you've at least found it worth your time to give it a shot.
MysteriousOldGuy
MOG is a good shorthand, as well.
K.
Well, good luck on your player choices, then.
Well, good luck on your player choices, then.
Notorious L
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oh shoot I can play it twice
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I may be interested in submitting a character concept recycled from another HGW Quest. Am going to look at it a bit tomorrow and see just how much I need to refine concept into actualized character. From what I'm seeing of the rules, it looks like you have six points to divide between Specialties, Resources, and Supernatural Power, plus points taken from Innocence, and any derived from Complications (point value presumably established by GM)? And then Boons and Curses are traded out on a one-for-one basis?
Less sure but there may be a couple of canon characters I might also want to at least inquire about. I'll probably do that when I submit the original character concept. Looks like that's being done via PM?
Less sure but there may be a couple of canon characters I might also want to at least inquire about. I'll probably do that when I submit the original character concept. Looks like that's being done via PM?
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Sorry, guys, but due to being a complete sucker for good characters, I'm already looking to have eight players and I've got a ninth incoming.
I cannot handle eleven.
You can try AlfheimWanderer's fork on Beast's Lair if you like, but blaaaaaaargh. so many people, so many pms, aaaaaaaaa
You're pretty much correct about the chargen process, @Cavalier
EDIT: I should add the current expected playerlist:
Spooky
Shaderic
MightyDwarf
Magnificate
Kensai
Alectai
Rivenscryr
And the two who make up the most plausible go at nine people:
Dash931
Jemnite
I cannot handle eleven.
You can try AlfheimWanderer's fork on Beast's Lair if you like, but blaaaaaaargh. so many people, so many pms, aaaaaaaaa
You're pretty much correct about the chargen process, @Cavalier
EDIT: I should add the current expected playerlist:
Spooky
Shaderic
MightyDwarf
Magnificate
Kensai
Alectai
Rivenscryr
And the two who make up the most plausible go at nine people:
Dash931
Jemnite
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Ah darn it. Should of followed this more and not take it so slowly. I didn't expect you to decide so quickly.
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I've been completely flooded by quite excellent concepts. I was planning on accepting maybe six characters, possibly less, and here I am with nine.
Right now I'm vaguely trying to see if I can set up natural trios just so I can roll most of the characters together into groups. I'm also looking very much at my plan for doubling the number of Servant slots just so the NPCs will even get any. xV
My only remaining recourse for people that want to play is to direct them at the fork of the game on Beast's Lair run by Alfheim.
I see.
Can't help but feel a tad annoyed by this. Basically feels like first come, first served just happened.
GM makes game, GM gets more applications they like than they can possibly accept, then has to make tough choices about who gets in. It's pretty common, actually.
Anyway, worst comes to worst, we get knocked back down to six slots, with some people getting unlucky. That's just how it works, and I'm not going to complain if it happens to me, because the GM keeping their workload sane is what ensures the game actually happens.
OP said this not first come first serve.
But because a bunch of quality apps were made, it has become first come, first served even if a few might be elimated.
I'm being told to just go to Alf version because I was too slow putting together an app.
Usu hasn't said 'First come first served' anywhere. Hell, I got my foot in the door just yesterday evening via a good app.
The Alf version is being suggested because he can't accept everyone and is grappling with what apps he needs to cut, and the Alf version presents a place for the overflow to go.
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It really isn't. Several of the applicants showed up quite a bit later. They just also very quickly presented characters or concepts that I found very compelling. Dash, say, sent me a PM application just yesterday evening, and convinced me basically on the strength of a bit of short fiction. I was very inclined to just cut and stick with eight people before that.
Seriously, the quality of writing and the strength of the character concepts I've gotten has been really impressive. And I don't want to drag the process out and deal with applications after I've basically hit my limit. At this point, the only way I could reasonably deal with more applications would be to generate them for basically everyone interested and then begin a long and unpleasant process of cutting people out, which just wastes everyones time and isn't very fun for me besides.
I don't like telling people that I can't have them in my game, but damn well have to, because I cannot run games larger than this. I simply do not have the cognitive resources to do so, especially when Uni starts up again in a month.
Besides. What else am I supposed to do when I get quality submissions that I know basically fit? Sit around and wait for more of them so I can make unpleasant decisions about who to cut? No thank you.
Frankly, even if anyone considers this unacceptable, there isn't really anything I can do about that.
In conclusion, this matter is closed for the purpose of this game, and if anyone is interested in continuing discussion, I suggest they make a new thread about RP submission methods, or go to PMs, rather than do it in my OOC thread.
Is is there on the OP.
So because Usandru got a X number of apps that quality, all further apps are now rejected.
...
Fine.
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Well this was a waste of my time.
Protip: If you have no intention of sticking to a deadline, don't set one.
Protip: If you have no intention of sticking to a deadline, don't set one.
Kensai
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Guys, Usandru has said his piece and he's got every right to do it his way. He didn't expect so many entries and it's just hard luck if you didn't get on board early enough. I've missed loads of cool games from being late to the party too, there'll be others down the road.
Whining about it is pretty bad form since he doesn't owe you anything. He's putting in a lot of time and effort to run a game and it's his prerogative not to add to his own workload.
@Usandru for what it's worth, I think you're handling this just fine. Better to keep tight control of your game than run yourself into the ground, which does nobody any favours.
Whining about it is pretty bad form since he doesn't owe you anything. He's putting in a lot of time and effort to run a game and it's his prerogative not to add to his own workload.
@Usandru for what it's worth, I think you're handling this just fine. Better to keep tight control of your game than run yourself into the ground, which does nobody any favours.