Confringentur, Mk.2; a Madoka Magica / Fate/Stay Night crossover
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Day 27 Chapter 5
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[X] Enetious
"Assassin? Yes, that would make sense. My master saw something intrude into her territory, but said she could not make it out. shall we hunt together, then, that our goals are the same?"
You shrug, "Sure, why not? Worked well enough the last two times we went hunting together," you say, seeing no reason to turn down the offered help; and with you being the intruder in this territory, working with Lancer is better than being told to leave by Lancer. "Have any good leads you want to share?"
"I am afraid not. My master was only able to detect static in this rough area, but any more than that was beyond her."
You try to suppress the urge to say something. To say that the precognition her master uses to try and find where Assassin will be next is the same precognition that made her decide wholesale slaughter of almost two-dozen innocent girls was the best way to go about 'saving the world'. That no matter how hard her master tries to erase what she has done, no amount of good deeds will ever take back the willful staining of her hands with so much blood. You try; but you cannot.
"Back then, what made you go along with Mikuni's plans? You seem reasonable enough-" at least when she's not flying off the handle with battle-mania "-so why did you go along with Mikuni's unreasonable plan to kill so many innocent girls? Did she use a Command Seal to make you comply?"
"Is that not what we as servants are meant to do? To do as our masters command us?" Lancer looks at you, her face a mask whose composition you cannot quite describe. "My master outlined her plan in exacting detail to me; that we would take the lives of the lesser puella magi, to spare them from becoming witches, to stockpile their magical energy for use against Walpurgisnacht, and to distract the Incubator so that it would be too busy to contract with Kaname Madoka."
"That was her plan and I, who had no knowledge of the puella magi system before my summoning, had nothing to contribute that might have changed her mind."
"So you just... Went along with it, because that's what you believed had to be done."
"I am a Valkyrie; it is not my place to decide who dies on the battlefield," she says, even though you know better than that. Once, she did decide who would live, and was punished for it by her father Odin. That was what led to Sigurd rescuing her, and in doing so claimed her heart. Either she has learned her lesson from her previous disobedience, or is acting as such to avoid the risk of meeting Sigurd again.
But there was something else that sticks out to you about Lancer's response. Like Caster, Lancer is precise with her use of words, and so her use of the word 'summoned' rather than 'appeared' sticks out to you. "Just a few moments ago, you said that Mikuni 'summoned' you. I was under the impression that the servants of this War had all just appeared, for lack of a better word. So, did Mikuni actually summon you in the proper way?"
"I have no reason to doubt that she did. There was an evocation circle on the floor where I appeared, and I later watched as Mistress Kure was guided through the ritual to summon Berserker."
Lancer's response has caught you off-guard; there shouldn't have been any way for Mikuni to know of the proper ritual for summoning a servant. Unless McRemitz was right, and there actually is mage blood in her family. If that's the case, then what would a girl who was already a mage look like if she were to become a puella magi? She certainly has the affluence to match some of the more storied mage families of the Clocktower, and according to your master she has reserves of magical energy that shouldn't be possible for a normal puella magi; so is there a chance that Mikuni might indeed come from a family of mages?
There's only one way to get to the bottom of this. "Is there anything else you've seen in Mikuni's mansion during your time there? Anything that stands out to you as the property of a mage? Mystic tomes; old Formalcraft circles; maybe the decrepit frame of a Bounded Field that existed prior to the runic one she has up now? Anything like that?"
Lancer shakes her head, saying "No, nowhere in my master's mansion have I seen anything which resembles the trappings of a mage. That she summoned me the proper way, simply is, I believe."
Perhaps she just hasn't been looking in the right places? you think to yourself, before scratching that notion. At their home, Lancer seems to act in the role of a servant in more ways than one; you're doubtful she would have missed something unless she were being truly careless. You'll either have to put the matter to rest that Mikuni isn't a mage, or you'll have to investigate for yourself later on.
But for now, you'll lay the matter to rest, and decide to change the topic of conversation by asking "So, what are your thoughts about everything that's happening lately?"
"The lack of a master to summon the missing Saber servant worries me. Already, this improper War has gone on for a month, and yet the seventh master is still nowhere to be seen. When they appear, if they do, I fear that they will either be our enemy, as Assassin and the many coming witches are, or they will arrive too late to be successfully integrated into the team our masters have built. My thoughts are the same for the Saber servant themselves. Who will they be; will they be friend, or foe?"
"Hopefully the former," you say, thinking of all the way in which the Saber servant could wind up poorly for your master and her allies. "Our masters have a fairly strong compliment of servants, but Sabers are considered the strongest class for a reason, and the wrong servant could easily tear us all to shreds if we let them."
A servant with the invulnerability to stand up to Gilgamesh's Enûma Eliš; the divinity and swiftness to harm Achilles; the skill of sword to cut down Lancelot; the strength to crumple the defenses of Brynhildr which even your strongest blades had difficulty with; and a mind to steel to defeat you inside Unlimited Blade Works. A Saber like that, if they were your enemy, would likely be an even more daunting foe to fight that whatever is to come on Walpurgisnacht.
"Well, right now it's looking like there won't even be a Saber, so hopefully that's not something we have to worry about." Neither you nor Lancer need to dwell on the risk of a dangerous Saber being summoned, not when you're in the middle of hunting Assassin, so again you change the topic, Tracing a small, nondescript sword into your grasp. "I've been following along with my master in trying to learn runes. I went with Tiwaz because it has the most synergy with what I'm already capable of, and I was wondering if you had any pointers you could give to me."
Lancer motions for you to hand her the blade, which you do, and she brings it to level with her eyes. "Your work is not inexperienced, Archer. Tell me, have you had prior training before?"
"A little bit. In life, I studied at the Clocktower as a student for a few years, but outside of things relating to swords there's little I could ever do. Tiwaz just happens to have applications that I can actually use."
"It shows. You use the rune as though you were-" Sigurd, you know she wants to say "-a warrior." Well, she would know.
It dawns on you, as you talk with Lancer, that you still haven't yet found the entrance to Assassin's labyrinth. You know you've been looking, but that little goblin still won't show herself. So, what's the best way to approach this?
Do you
[ ] Circle around again, and try to find a weak point you can cut open with Gae Dearg
[ ] Come back at night; you know where she's hiding, you just need to wait for her to show herself
[ ] Ask your master what you should do
-[Homura] How should Archer handle this?
[ ] Ask Lancer if she has any suggestions
[ ] Other (write-in)
"Assassin? Yes, that would make sense. My master saw something intrude into her territory, but said she could not make it out. shall we hunt together, then, that our goals are the same?"
You shrug, "Sure, why not? Worked well enough the last two times we went hunting together," you say, seeing no reason to turn down the offered help; and with you being the intruder in this territory, working with Lancer is better than being told to leave by Lancer. "Have any good leads you want to share?"
"I am afraid not. My master was only able to detect static in this rough area, but any more than that was beyond her."
You try to suppress the urge to say something. To say that the precognition her master uses to try and find where Assassin will be next is the same precognition that made her decide wholesale slaughter of almost two-dozen innocent girls was the best way to go about 'saving the world'. That no matter how hard her master tries to erase what she has done, no amount of good deeds will ever take back the willful staining of her hands with so much blood. You try; but you cannot.
"Back then, what made you go along with Mikuni's plans? You seem reasonable enough-" at least when she's not flying off the handle with battle-mania "-so why did you go along with Mikuni's unreasonable plan to kill so many innocent girls? Did she use a Command Seal to make you comply?"
"Is that not what we as servants are meant to do? To do as our masters command us?" Lancer looks at you, her face a mask whose composition you cannot quite describe. "My master outlined her plan in exacting detail to me; that we would take the lives of the lesser puella magi, to spare them from becoming witches, to stockpile their magical energy for use against Walpurgisnacht, and to distract the Incubator so that it would be too busy to contract with Kaname Madoka."
"That was her plan and I, who had no knowledge of the puella magi system before my summoning, had nothing to contribute that might have changed her mind."
"So you just... Went along with it, because that's what you believed had to be done."
"I am a Valkyrie; it is not my place to decide who dies on the battlefield," she says, even though you know better than that. Once, she did decide who would live, and was punished for it by her father Odin. That was what led to Sigurd rescuing her, and in doing so claimed her heart. Either she has learned her lesson from her previous disobedience, or is acting as such to avoid the risk of meeting Sigurd again.
But there was something else that sticks out to you about Lancer's response. Like Caster, Lancer is precise with her use of words, and so her use of the word 'summoned' rather than 'appeared' sticks out to you. "Just a few moments ago, you said that Mikuni 'summoned' you. I was under the impression that the servants of this War had all just appeared, for lack of a better word. So, did Mikuni actually summon you in the proper way?"
"I have no reason to doubt that she did. There was an evocation circle on the floor where I appeared, and I later watched as Mistress Kure was guided through the ritual to summon Berserker."
Lancer's response has caught you off-guard; there shouldn't have been any way for Mikuni to know of the proper ritual for summoning a servant. Unless McRemitz was right, and there actually is mage blood in her family. If that's the case, then what would a girl who was already a mage look like if she were to become a puella magi? She certainly has the affluence to match some of the more storied mage families of the Clocktower, and according to your master she has reserves of magical energy that shouldn't be possible for a normal puella magi; so is there a chance that Mikuni might indeed come from a family of mages?
There's only one way to get to the bottom of this. "Is there anything else you've seen in Mikuni's mansion during your time there? Anything that stands out to you as the property of a mage? Mystic tomes; old Formalcraft circles; maybe the decrepit frame of a Bounded Field that existed prior to the runic one she has up now? Anything like that?"
Lancer shakes her head, saying "No, nowhere in my master's mansion have I seen anything which resembles the trappings of a mage. That she summoned me the proper way, simply is, I believe."
Perhaps she just hasn't been looking in the right places? you think to yourself, before scratching that notion. At their home, Lancer seems to act in the role of a servant in more ways than one; you're doubtful she would have missed something unless she were being truly careless. You'll either have to put the matter to rest that Mikuni isn't a mage, or you'll have to investigate for yourself later on.
But for now, you'll lay the matter to rest, and decide to change the topic of conversation by asking "So, what are your thoughts about everything that's happening lately?"
"The lack of a master to summon the missing Saber servant worries me. Already, this improper War has gone on for a month, and yet the seventh master is still nowhere to be seen. When they appear, if they do, I fear that they will either be our enemy, as Assassin and the many coming witches are, or they will arrive too late to be successfully integrated into the team our masters have built. My thoughts are the same for the Saber servant themselves. Who will they be; will they be friend, or foe?"
"Hopefully the former," you say, thinking of all the way in which the Saber servant could wind up poorly for your master and her allies. "Our masters have a fairly strong compliment of servants, but Sabers are considered the strongest class for a reason, and the wrong servant could easily tear us all to shreds if we let them."
A servant with the invulnerability to stand up to Gilgamesh's Enûma Eliš; the divinity and swiftness to harm Achilles; the skill of sword to cut down Lancelot; the strength to crumple the defenses of Brynhildr which even your strongest blades had difficulty with; and a mind to steel to defeat you inside Unlimited Blade Works. A Saber like that, if they were your enemy, would likely be an even more daunting foe to fight that whatever is to come on Walpurgisnacht.
"Well, right now it's looking like there won't even be a Saber, so hopefully that's not something we have to worry about." Neither you nor Lancer need to dwell on the risk of a dangerous Saber being summoned, not when you're in the middle of hunting Assassin, so again you change the topic, Tracing a small, nondescript sword into your grasp. "I've been following along with my master in trying to learn runes. I went with Tiwaz because it has the most synergy with what I'm already capable of, and I was wondering if you had any pointers you could give to me."
Lancer motions for you to hand her the blade, which you do, and she brings it to level with her eyes. "Your work is not inexperienced, Archer. Tell me, have you had prior training before?"
"A little bit. In life, I studied at the Clocktower as a student for a few years, but outside of things relating to swords there's little I could ever do. Tiwaz just happens to have applications that I can actually use."
"It shows. You use the rune as though you were-" Sigurd, you know she wants to say "-a warrior." Well, she would know.
It dawns on you, as you talk with Lancer, that you still haven't yet found the entrance to Assassin's labyrinth. You know you've been looking, but that little goblin still won't show herself. So, what's the best way to approach this?
Do you
[ ] Circle around again, and try to find a weak point you can cut open with Gae Dearg
[ ] Come back at night; you know where she's hiding, you just need to wait for her to show herself
[ ] Ask your master what you should do
-[Homura] How should Archer handle this?
[ ] Ask Lancer if she has any suggestions
[ ] Other (write-in)
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- United States
[X] Ask Lancer if she has any suggestions
-[X] If her suggestions don't pan out, circle around again and try to find a weak point you can cut open with Gae Dearg
--[X] If none of that works, come back at night; you know where she's hiding, you just need to wait for her to show herself
---[X] Pick up some fresh blueberries for your Master and deliver them post-haste
[X] Telepathically inform your Master what you learned from Lancer
I'm guessing if Archer could have used it, he would've already used Mmaagha Kamalu. I'm hoping we can find Assassin and organize everyone before nightfall to deny her an advantage. Out of curiosity, what actual benefits did the Sword of Peleus grant Archer, so we know when to use and not use it in the future?
EDIT: Forgot informing Homura of what Archer discovered as it seems pretty important. Added it in.
-[X] If her suggestions don't pan out, circle around again and try to find a weak point you can cut open with Gae Dearg
--[X] If none of that works, come back at night; you know where she's hiding, you just need to wait for her to show herself
---[X] Pick up some fresh blueberries for your Master and deliver them post-haste
[X] Telepathically inform your Master what you learned from Lancer
I'm guessing if Archer could have used it, he would've already used Mmaagha Kamalu. I'm hoping we can find Assassin and organize everyone before nightfall to deny her an advantage. Out of curiosity, what actual benefits did the Sword of Peleus grant Archer, so we know when to use and not use it in the future?
EDIT: Forgot informing Homura of what Archer discovered as it seems pretty important. Added it in.
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He knows he's in the right part of Shirome, so it's less "needle in a haystack" now and more "which door is the right door?" in regards to finding where Assassin lives.
Nuew
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[X] Enetious
Huh. Didn't expect that, and I'm not sure what it means for us that Oriko intentionally summoned her servant, especially as she didn't tell us (though that could be because she assumed that everyone else summoned their servants conventionally as well. Did we ever tell her otherwise?)
Huh. Didn't expect that, and I'm not sure what it means for us that Oriko intentionally summoned her servant, especially as she didn't tell us (though that could be because she assumed that everyone else summoned their servants conventionally as well. Did we ever tell her otherwise?)
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- Around here
We never asked her. We asked Mami and Kyouko, but Oriko was still our enemy at the time and we don't ever think to ask her now, probably because Archer, Caster, Rider, and Assassin just sort of appeared without needing to be summoned, so why would Lancer or Berserker have been any different?
WanderingTwix
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[X] Enetious
Day 27 Chapter 6
- Location
- Around here
[X] Ask Lancer if she has any suggestions
-[X] If her suggestions don't pan out, circle around again and try to find a weak point you can cut open with Gae Dearg
--[X] If none of that works, come back at night; you know where she's hiding, you just need to wait for her to show herself
---[X] Pick up some fresh blueberries for your Master and deliver them post-haste
[X] Telepathically inform your Master what you learned from Lancer
It dawns on you, as you talk with Lancer, that you still haven't yet found the entrance to Assassin's labyrinth. You know you're looking in the right part of Shirome, but that little goblin still won't show herself. So, what's the best way to approach this? "Got any ideas on how we might be able to find her?" you ask Lancer, hoping that her greater familiarity with the Shirome area will lend her some insight where you have not.
Unfortunately for you, "I am afraid I do not, Archer. The last time I searched actively for Assassin, I wandered fruitlessly for over an hour until she decided to show herself. Even now that we know where to look, if she will not show herself to us we have little recourse but to find the weakest point of her labyrinth and tear it open ourselves, as we did the last time we fought her."
"Funny," you say, exchanging the nondescript sword formerly in your grasp for the Gae Dearg, prompting stares of confusion from Lancer "I was actually about to suggest the same thing."
"You are a strange man, Archer. A bowman by trade, yet you use swords and spears as easily as you use a bow and arrow. I do not understand."
"One of the perks of being a fake heroic spirit, I assume," you say, your words drawing ever more confusion, though this time unvoiced, from Lancer. "Nothing about me is the genuine article, so as long as I can imagine it, I can fight with it."
Lancer shakes her head, saying only "You are a strange man indeed, Archer."
Letting Lancer take the lead, you circle back around the path you had taken earlier, searching in all the dark places where the hungering spirits that give Assassin her form might retreat to feed, but try as you might you cannot find any place where the boundary between the real world and Assassin's labyrinth are at their weakest. Here, it seems, she has entrenched herself better than she had in Mitakihara.
"It doesn't look like she's going to let us in," you say, turning to Lancer as you dispel the Gae Dearg. You're this close to finally wiping that scourge off the face of the earth, and yet you're stymied by the fact that she's chosen good spots to string her web up, and left you no weak spots at which to chip away. "But at least now, we know where she's hiding. If we come back tonight in full and catch her off-guard, we can probably get in and defeat her."
"Yes, that would be the wisest course of action. I can do as the investigator suggested, and use my runes to seal Assassin from ejecting us from her labyrinth. Once she is no longer able to wield her terrain against us, crushing her shall be an easy task."
"In that case, we should be getting along." You have other things you need to do for your master- Namely, acquiring the fresh blueberries she wishes to gift to Sakura Kyouko; and with her own master staying home until the situation with these new girls can be sorted out, you're sure that Lancer has other things she is needed for, as well. But as you turn to leave, a thought strikes, and you call out to Lancer "Be careful going back to your master. We can't assume that Assassin was blind to us snooping around her front door. Be careful you don't lead her back to your master."
"I shall endeavour to be at my most careful then, Archer. Farewell, and when we meet again tonight may we finally be able to put Assassin behind us."
"We can only hope," you say, turning your back to Lancer as the both of you head off to your missions elsewhere. Now, where's a good place to find fresh blueberries?
"... I see. Thank you for letting me know, Archer. And the blueberries?"
"Bringing them home as we speak. They'll be in the fridge by the time you get back from school."
"Good. Again, thank you. That will be all for now; I need time to think things over." So, there's a chance that McRemitz-san was right; that Mikuni Oriko might have come from a mage family after all. You aren't sure what you should think about this new development; if it requires further investigation, or if this is something you can let go without looking into it any further. And, the fact that she summoned both hers and Kure Kirika's servants, rather than them simply appearing as all the others have. What does that mean?
"Homura-chan?" Madoka's voice is clear, like a bell, and you are drawn from your musing by its wondrous sound. "That was the bell. We should get going back to class now."
"Ah, yes, you're right Madoka," you say, hurriedly packing up the remnants of your lunch box, before rising to join Madoka and your friends. "I'm sorry, I must have gotten lost in thought."
"Were they good thoughts?" Madoka asks, smiling as she accepts your outstretched hand into hers as the two of you walk together, flanked on either side by Sayaka and Hitomi.
"When I'm with you, my thoughts are never anything but the best." It isn't a true statement, but it is the truth.
[ ] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
[ ] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
-[ ] Study session with Hitomi
-[ ] Group outing with your friends
--[ ] What are you doing?
-[ ] Team meeting and planning session
--[ ] At whose residence?
--[ ] What needs to be addressed?
-[ ] Meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki*
--[ ] What do you say to her?
--[ ] What do you ask her?
--[ ] What do you want from her?
-[ ] Other (write-in)
[ ] What are your thoughts regarding Archer's findings?
[ ] When do you plan on dealing with Nagatsuki Miyuki?* (answer only if you aren't meeting her tonight)
[ ] Anything else? (write-in)
-[X] If her suggestions don't pan out, circle around again and try to find a weak point you can cut open with Gae Dearg
--[X] If none of that works, come back at night; you know where she's hiding, you just need to wait for her to show herself
---[X] Pick up some fresh blueberries for your Master and deliver them post-haste
[X] Telepathically inform your Master what you learned from Lancer
It dawns on you, as you talk with Lancer, that you still haven't yet found the entrance to Assassin's labyrinth. You know you're looking in the right part of Shirome, but that little goblin still won't show herself. So, what's the best way to approach this? "Got any ideas on how we might be able to find her?" you ask Lancer, hoping that her greater familiarity with the Shirome area will lend her some insight where you have not.
Unfortunately for you, "I am afraid I do not, Archer. The last time I searched actively for Assassin, I wandered fruitlessly for over an hour until she decided to show herself. Even now that we know where to look, if she will not show herself to us we have little recourse but to find the weakest point of her labyrinth and tear it open ourselves, as we did the last time we fought her."
"Funny," you say, exchanging the nondescript sword formerly in your grasp for the Gae Dearg, prompting stares of confusion from Lancer "I was actually about to suggest the same thing."
"You are a strange man, Archer. A bowman by trade, yet you use swords and spears as easily as you use a bow and arrow. I do not understand."
"One of the perks of being a fake heroic spirit, I assume," you say, your words drawing ever more confusion, though this time unvoiced, from Lancer. "Nothing about me is the genuine article, so as long as I can imagine it, I can fight with it."
Lancer shakes her head, saying only "You are a strange man indeed, Archer."
Letting Lancer take the lead, you circle back around the path you had taken earlier, searching in all the dark places where the hungering spirits that give Assassin her form might retreat to feed, but try as you might you cannot find any place where the boundary between the real world and Assassin's labyrinth are at their weakest. Here, it seems, she has entrenched herself better than she had in Mitakihara.
"It doesn't look like she's going to let us in," you say, turning to Lancer as you dispel the Gae Dearg. You're this close to finally wiping that scourge off the face of the earth, and yet you're stymied by the fact that she's chosen good spots to string her web up, and left you no weak spots at which to chip away. "But at least now, we know where she's hiding. If we come back tonight in full and catch her off-guard, we can probably get in and defeat her."
"Yes, that would be the wisest course of action. I can do as the investigator suggested, and use my runes to seal Assassin from ejecting us from her labyrinth. Once she is no longer able to wield her terrain against us, crushing her shall be an easy task."
"In that case, we should be getting along." You have other things you need to do for your master- Namely, acquiring the fresh blueberries she wishes to gift to Sakura Kyouko; and with her own master staying home until the situation with these new girls can be sorted out, you're sure that Lancer has other things she is needed for, as well. But as you turn to leave, a thought strikes, and you call out to Lancer "Be careful going back to your master. We can't assume that Assassin was blind to us snooping around her front door. Be careful you don't lead her back to your master."
"I shall endeavour to be at my most careful then, Archer. Farewell, and when we meet again tonight may we finally be able to put Assassin behind us."
"We can only hope," you say, turning your back to Lancer as the both of you head off to your missions elsewhere. Now, where's a good place to find fresh blueberries?
"... I see. Thank you for letting me know, Archer. And the blueberries?"
"Bringing them home as we speak. They'll be in the fridge by the time you get back from school."
"Good. Again, thank you. That will be all for now; I need time to think things over." So, there's a chance that McRemitz-san was right; that Mikuni Oriko might have come from a mage family after all. You aren't sure what you should think about this new development; if it requires further investigation, or if this is something you can let go without looking into it any further. And, the fact that she summoned both hers and Kure Kirika's servants, rather than them simply appearing as all the others have. What does that mean?
"Homura-chan?" Madoka's voice is clear, like a bell, and you are drawn from your musing by its wondrous sound. "That was the bell. We should get going back to class now."
"Ah, yes, you're right Madoka," you say, hurriedly packing up the remnants of your lunch box, before rising to join Madoka and your friends. "I'm sorry, I must have gotten lost in thought."
"Were they good thoughts?" Madoka asks, smiling as she accepts your outstretched hand into hers as the two of you walk together, flanked on either side by Sayaka and Hitomi.
"When I'm with you, my thoughts are never anything but the best." It isn't a true statement, but it is the truth.
[ ] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
[ ] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
-[ ] Study session with Hitomi
-[ ] Group outing with your friends
--[ ] What are you doing?
-[ ] Team meeting and planning session
--[ ] At whose residence?
--[ ] What needs to be addressed?
-[ ] Meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki*
--[ ] What do you say to her?
--[ ] What do you ask her?
--[ ] What do you want from her?
-[ ] Other (write-in)
[ ] What are your thoughts regarding Archer's findings?
[ ] When do you plan on dealing with Nagatsuki Miyuki?* (answer only if you aren't meeting her tonight)
[ ] Anything else? (write-in)
- Location
- United States
[] Plan Infodump
-[] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
--[] Finish the school day you would normally
-[] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
--[] Text the rest of the Holy Quintet informing them of Archer and Lancer's discovery of Assassin and ask them where they'd prefer meeting up. If you have to use the Incubator's network, do so but exclude the discovery of Assassin.
---[] If you haven't already, invite the others to a group text chat for ease of communication outside the Incubator's network
----[] If Kyoko doesn't have a phone, see if you can't get Archer to buy a burner on one of his future shopping trips
--[] Have Archer shadow you for your meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki, preventing the Incubator from coming within range to interrupt if at all possible
--[] Meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki
---[] What do you say to her?
----[] If she brings any of her friends, and you'll know if she does, you'll have one of your allies disseminate the blackmail to all notable parties that would be interested in such a thing. Press that you seek her no harm or ill-will, and that you'll delete the blackmail after she meets up with you, this is simply a means to get her to meet up without her emotionally compromised allies who will most probably not listen to reason. Meet her in a public cafe somewhere nearby - but not too close to - her residence, your treat.
----[] Before anything else, have her confirm the status of Grief in her Soul Gem, as if it's particularly Grief filled it'll mess with her emotions and mental state greatly.
----[] First ask her to tell you what she knows of this whole situation so far, and what she currently knows about the Incubator and it's motives. After she's done, first inform her of the Incubator's alien and emotionless nature and how it doesn't care for any of it's charges beyond their value as specimens in an experiment, and that it was the Incubator that first introduced Witches into the world by creating the Puella Magi system. Expand upon this by telling her that the Incubator will often let certain things play out if it piques it's curiosity, especially to the detriment of the Puella Magi. Also inform her that when a Puella Magi's Soul Gem goes completely black, one doesn't just lose their powers but rather something terrible will happen.
----[] Second, talk about Mikuni Oriko, and how through the Incubator's machinations it bestowed upon her a powerful predictive ability. This ability is flawed, however, by the fact that it hones in on certain destructive and apocalyptic "futures" and worst case scenarios and doesn't inform Oriko of things that supersede it's predictive nature. Oriko dealt with this for many months before doing what she did, the Incubator doing nothing to aid her in the suffering she'd went through being forced to watch the end of the world over and over, especially in the early months. This end of the world scenario is directly related to the phenomenon of certain Puella Magi letting their Grief Seeds go completely black, and with the goading and "guidance" of the Incubator she sought to put many Puella Magi out of their misery, before they could cause the end of the world, not that the Incubator would really mind the event, being able to study it, though it would lose out on helpless subjects to further it's experiments.
----[] Third, state that the world itself, and entity all of its own, fought back against the alien's, the Incubator's, machinations and sent powerful magical agents, spirits of crystallized legend, similar in the way that white blood cells fight off viruses. Puella Magi nor Witch are a match for these entities, and through one of those entities was the blackmail procured, and it could have slayed all three of them without any of them even realizing it should they have wanted to harm them. It was one of these entities that saved and freed Mikuni Oriko from the Incubator's influence and the eternal torment of her predictive ability. Press that if her and her companions continue to pursue the life of Mikuni Oriko, they will die at the hands of these entities.
----[] Fourth, inform her of the coming Walpurgisnacht, and what it will entail if the Puella Magi do not cooperate.
---[] What do you want from her?
I am not really satisfied with my vote, nor am I sure if it'll convince Miyuki. Anyone feel free to write something better. This isn't a complete plan, as I stopped mid-way through since I didn't like how it was being written, so if anyone can draw inspiration from this feel free.
-[] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
--[] Finish the school day you would normally
-[] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
--[] Text the rest of the Holy Quintet informing them of Archer and Lancer's discovery of Assassin and ask them where they'd prefer meeting up. If you have to use the Incubator's network, do so but exclude the discovery of Assassin.
---[] If you haven't already, invite the others to a group text chat for ease of communication outside the Incubator's network
----[] If Kyoko doesn't have a phone, see if you can't get Archer to buy a burner on one of his future shopping trips
--[] Have Archer shadow you for your meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki, preventing the Incubator from coming within range to interrupt if at all possible
--[] Meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki
---[] What do you say to her?
----[] If she brings any of her friends, and you'll know if she does, you'll have one of your allies disseminate the blackmail to all notable parties that would be interested in such a thing. Press that you seek her no harm or ill-will, and that you'll delete the blackmail after she meets up with you, this is simply a means to get her to meet up without her emotionally compromised allies who will most probably not listen to reason. Meet her in a public cafe somewhere nearby - but not too close to - her residence, your treat.
----[] Before anything else, have her confirm the status of Grief in her Soul Gem, as if it's particularly Grief filled it'll mess with her emotions and mental state greatly.
----[] First ask her to tell you what she knows of this whole situation so far, and what she currently knows about the Incubator and it's motives. After she's done, first inform her of the Incubator's alien and emotionless nature and how it doesn't care for any of it's charges beyond their value as specimens in an experiment, and that it was the Incubator that first introduced Witches into the world by creating the Puella Magi system. Expand upon this by telling her that the Incubator will often let certain things play out if it piques it's curiosity, especially to the detriment of the Puella Magi. Also inform her that when a Puella Magi's Soul Gem goes completely black, one doesn't just lose their powers but rather something terrible will happen.
----[] Second, talk about Mikuni Oriko, and how through the Incubator's machinations it bestowed upon her a powerful predictive ability. This ability is flawed, however, by the fact that it hones in on certain destructive and apocalyptic "futures" and worst case scenarios and doesn't inform Oriko of things that supersede it's predictive nature. Oriko dealt with this for many months before doing what she did, the Incubator doing nothing to aid her in the suffering she'd went through being forced to watch the end of the world over and over, especially in the early months. This end of the world scenario is directly related to the phenomenon of certain Puella Magi letting their Grief Seeds go completely black, and with the goading and "guidance" of the Incubator she sought to put many Puella Magi out of their misery, before they could cause the end of the world, not that the Incubator would really mind the event, being able to study it, though it would lose out on helpless subjects to further it's experiments.
----[] Third, state that the world itself, and entity all of its own, fought back against the alien's, the Incubator's, machinations and sent powerful magical agents, spirits of crystallized legend, similar in the way that white blood cells fight off viruses. Puella Magi nor Witch are a match for these entities, and through one of those entities was the blackmail procured, and it could have slayed all three of them without any of them even realizing it should they have wanted to harm them. It was one of these entities that saved and freed Mikuni Oriko from the Incubator's influence and the eternal torment of her predictive ability. Press that if her and her companions continue to pursue the life of Mikuni Oriko, they will die at the hands of these entities.
----[] Fourth, inform her of the coming Walpurgisnacht, and what it will entail if the Puella Magi do not cooperate.
---[] What do you want from her?
I am not really satisfied with my vote, nor am I sure if it'll convince Miyuki. Anyone feel free to write something better. This isn't a complete plan, as I stopped mid-way through since I didn't like how it was being written, so if anyone can draw inspiration from this feel free.
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You've made some pretty big thinks in the past, but this might be the biggest think I've seen you make yet, especially considering that it isn't even finished. Maybe it would be better to finish tackling the easy-to-deal-with elements, and leave the meatier elements for later when there's more people to brainstorm with.
I did, however, notice a few problems in your 'group text chat' plan- While Kyouko does have a phone and we do know her number, the same is not true for Kirika. We don't know what her number number is, so there's no way that we could set up and include her in your proposed scenario. Unless we don't have to- She and Mami both go to our school, so it's not like we need to text her to include her in the conversation, especially if we're getting the group together immediately after school is out.
So yeah, guys, for this one I'm really going to need everyone involved to step up and contribute to the plan.
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Oh, and hey @SVS , does Alina Gray ( formerly Sister Hope ) has anything to do with that really psychotic Meguca from MagiRecord ? The one with barrier manipulation ability ?
Edit: Reading the Canon omakes....yup. That's her. Hope her mental stability is better this time around, or atleast she decides to not contracting
Edit: Reading the Canon omakes....yup. That's her. Hope her mental stability is better this time around, or atleast she decides to not contracting
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-[] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
--[] Finish the school day you would normally
-[] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
--[] Text the rest of the Holy Quintet informing them of Archer and Lancer's discovery of Assassin and ask them where they'd prefer meeting up. If you have to use the Incubator's network, do so but exclude the discovery of Assassin.
This part of the vote I'm fine with. The rest I'm kind of eh.
--[] Finish the school day you would normally
-[] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
--[] Text the rest of the Holy Quintet informing them of Archer and Lancer's discovery of Assassin and ask them where they'd prefer meeting up. If you have to use the Incubator's network, do so but exclude the discovery of Assassin.
This part of the vote I'm fine with. The rest I'm kind of eh.
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-[] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
--[] Finish the school day you would normally
-[] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
--[] Text the rest of the Holy Quintet informing them of Archer and Lancer's discovery of Assassin and ask them where they'd prefer meeting up.
---[] If you haven't already, invite the others to a group text chat for ease of communication outside the Incubator's network; get Kirika's number from Oriko when you set it up
--[] Have Archer shadow you for your meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki, preventing the Incubator from coming within range to interrupt if at all possible
--[] Meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki
---[] What do you say to her?
----[1] Threat to release blackmail, but assure her that you mean her no harm and this is the only concrete way to talk to her alone
-----[1.1] Have her check her Grief Seed, explain the emotional effects of Grief when it begins to fill a Soul Gem
----[2] Ask her about what she knows about the situation and the Incubator
-----[2.1] Tell her about the Incubator and a slightly redacted version of Witches, and how the Witches are all the Incubator's fault
----[3] Pin the blame of Oriko's actions on the Incubator somehow
----[4] (Maybe?) Explain about the world fighting back against the Incubator's machinations by sending incredibly strong magical entities, first to incriminate the Incubator and second to have her try and ward off any future attempts on Oriko's life due to the risk involved
----[5] Wally "HueHueHue" Purgis
---[] What do you want from her?
----[6] Have her relay pertinent information to her allies in order to try and pin the blame on the Incubator, as it wouldn't be good for anyone involved
----[7] Potentially aid with Walpurgisnacht, but at least a ceasefire between them
----[8] For her to seek therapy to help cope with the loss of a friend, as wallowing in her sorrows is both horrible from a Puella Magi standpoint and from the standpoint of a teenage girl who has her whole life ahead of her
(Regarding 8) Hopefully this version of Dubai-Japan has better mental health coverage than regular Japan
Anyways, plez halp @WanderingTwix @Signupname @NMS @Nuew @Slayer 10321 @CMAzrael
We can chip away at this in bits if necessary, and anything else pertinent to add (or disclude) would be helpful as well. This is the outline I've got in mind, but feel free to change it up if you got an idea.
-[] What are your plans for the rest of the school day?
--[] Finish the school day you would normally
-[] What are your plans for after the school day ends?
--[] Text the rest of the Holy Quintet informing them of Archer and Lancer's discovery of Assassin and ask them where they'd prefer meeting up.
---[] If you haven't already, invite the others to a group text chat for ease of communication outside the Incubator's network; get Kirika's number from Oriko when you set it up
--[] Have Archer shadow you for your meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki, preventing the Incubator from coming within range to interrupt if at all possible
--[] Meeting with Nagatsuki Miyuki
---[] What do you say to her?
----[1] Threat to release blackmail, but assure her that you mean her no harm and this is the only concrete way to talk to her alone
-----[1.1] Have her check her Grief Seed, explain the emotional effects of Grief when it begins to fill a Soul Gem
----[2] Ask her about what she knows about the situation and the Incubator
-----[2.1] Tell her about the Incubator and a slightly redacted version of Witches, and how the Witches are all the Incubator's fault
----[3] Pin the blame of Oriko's actions on the Incubator somehow
----[4] (Maybe?) Explain about the world fighting back against the Incubator's machinations by sending incredibly strong magical entities, first to incriminate the Incubator and second to have her try and ward off any future attempts on Oriko's life due to the risk involved
----[5] Wally "HueHueHue" Purgis
---[] What do you want from her?
----[6] Have her relay pertinent information to her allies in order to try and pin the blame on the Incubator, as it wouldn't be good for anyone involved
----[7] Potentially aid with Walpurgisnacht, but at least a ceasefire between them
----[8] For her to seek therapy to help cope with the loss of a friend, as wallowing in her sorrows is both horrible from a Puella Magi standpoint and from the standpoint of a teenage girl who has her whole life ahead of her
(Regarding 8) Hopefully this version of Dubai-Japan has better mental health coverage than regular Japan
Anyways, plez halp @WanderingTwix @Signupname @NMS @Nuew @Slayer 10321 @CMAzrael
We can chip away at this in bits if necessary, and anything else pertinent to add (or disclude) would be helpful as well. This is the outline I've got in mind, but feel free to change it up if you got an idea.
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If we open up with blackmail before confirming the state of her grief seed could, worst case scenario, lead to her witching out before Homura even meets her or as soon as the meeting starts.
And explaining that the Servants have been "sent by the World" kind of rings Hollow with Assassin running around and us just finding out that Oriko and Kirika's deliberately summoned Lance and Berserker. And I'm not even sure that's a theory we've fully discussed with the rest of the group yet.
And explaining that the Servants have been "sent by the World" kind of rings Hollow with Assassin running around and us just finding out that Oriko and Kirika's deliberately summoned Lance and Berserker. And I'm not even sure that's a theory we've fully discussed with the rest of the group yet.
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The goal is not to tell the truth, but to tell Homura's "truth", which happens to be lies mixed in with the truth. If she told the truth, she'd have to admit that it was pretty much Oriko's fault in regards to the death of Komaki, which is something we don't want. And what are you talking about, Assassin is just a weird Witch like Walpurgis!
The purpose of this meeting, after all, is to get Miyuki to convince her allies that Komaki's death is mostly on Kyuubey and that it would be way too costly to go against the Holy Quintet in combat.
As for the blackmail, Homura would specifically be telling her that if she meets up alone, in a very public place somewhat nearby Miyuki's home, that she would delete the blackmail, and to persuade her that she's only doing this to prevent her from bringing along the violent duo. My worry in opening with the grief seed thing is that she'll just hang up without any reason to talk to Homura, a presumed enemy.
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Umm, you're not expecting me to give feedback, are you?
Well jeez, I don't know what I could offer, but I guess I'll try?
I don't really know, but I think if you want to put blame on the incubator, you'd have to get them to antagonise him first on terms unrelated to oriko... but the only way I see that happening is talking about 'the bombs', and that is most probably not a good idea, especially with how high-strung they are. Or if they would even listen to us. Eh.
Well jeez, I don't know what I could offer, but I guess I'll try?
I don't even remember us arranging a meeting, but I guess my memory's bad.
Saying that we're going to 'threaten' her and then afterwards 'assure no harm' feels kind of... hollow. Do you expect her to believe that?
... you going to witch-bomb her? How are you going to blame the witches on the incubator without doing that?
Mmm, yeah, I'm honestly lost on how we're gonna manage that too. I mean, when we tried to convince Oriko herself of this, we had to talk about messy precognition and such, and really, I don't think Mitsuki and co. are going to care about the (back then and supposed) 'greater good' that Komaki died for, much less consider that someone else could be to blame.
I don't really know, but I think if you want to put blame on the incubator, you'd have to get them to antagonise him first on terms unrelated to oriko... but the only way I see that happening is talking about 'the bombs', and that is most probably not a good idea, especially with how high-strung they are. Or if they would even listen to us. Eh.
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Alina is not a meguca in this timeline, and aside from borrowing names and witches I have no plans to make Magireco a part of this quest. That's saying nothing about what I might be setting up for the sequel, if I ever do it, but for this quest specifically I have no plans to make MagiReco into a thing.
Mitakihara is a city in Anime Japan. Take that to mean what you will in regards to their perceptions of mental health and its care.
Just to play devil's advocate here, how do we know that Archer, Caster, and Rider weren't sent by the World in response to Oriko throwing things out of balance by summoning Lancer, rather than because of the Incubator? It's not out of the realm of possibility for both statements to be true. And it's already been established that Assassin is an irregularity (for Homura- that Assassin is both a servant and a witch) (for the players- Assassin isn't one of the Hassan-i-sabah), so there's nothing wrong with figuring her out of the equation.
That being said, you are still correct in that Lancer, Berserker, and Assassin all discount the "sent by the world" line.
With regards to the blackmail, how do we plan to disseminate the photos if Miyuki never shows or tells us to piss off? Are we just going to go to her house and show her parents the pictures Archer took? Wouldn't that, you know, make us look equally as bad, or at least like we're creepy stalkers? And how can we prove to them that we didn't just sneak a few creepshots of their daughter and shoop some beer cars in to try and get her in trouble?
And if we're planning on posting them online, then we really need to think of a way to make sure that the intended recipients consider them to be legit, because who knows what we could have done to a picture they got sent to them over the internet.
Problem is, if we did that it would just make us look like we were fucking with her, harassing her, or stalking her. But don't feel bad about having nothing, this is not a good situation for us to be in.
Yes, we are. And you didn't too as bad as you thought you would, so have a pat on the back.
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It's in prep for when Homura forces Miyuki into a meeting, as in the original vote format there was no subvote for "What preparations do you do ahead of time" or anything like that, so I had to put it under her plans for after the school day. (We could always format the finished vote when it's put together with write-in subsections like that)
She doesn't have a choice in the matter, and it's the only way (currently) to isolate her from her more violent allies without her going all Puella Magi on Homura/Archer.
It still takes far more than that to Witch bomb a person; heck even Mami in that one scene where she finds out the entire truth about how Puella Magi turn into Witches (which we won't be telling Miyuki) and kills the other Puella Magi by shooting their Soul Gems didn't Witch out. At most it'll increase the Grief in her Soul Gem at a quicker rate than it already would have.
Yeah, that's why I'm trying to get some help on this point. I feel it should be possible to shift a good majority of their blame to Kyuubey, but I'm not sure how to word it. We also have to be wary of speaking specific lies that Kyuubey could later discount. If you got another idea on how to get Miyuki and her allies to cease their crusade on Oriko I'm definitely all ears
(and like SVS said, feedback is always welcome, especially in a case like this mess x.x)Luckily Homura won't be telling her how Lancer and Berserker were summoned, though arguably Assassin could have been "summoned by the world" and went rogue due to her mentality.
Text it to her, like how Archer sent it to Homura. How else?
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I mean, the point of blackmail is to coerce someone into compliance with the threat of damages. So if Miyuki doesn't comply, do we actually have a plan to use her drunk photots to cause her damages? If so, what's the plan; and if we're only ever going to send them to her, then what's the point of going for the blackmail angle if we're not going to disseminate the information in a manner that would cause her damages for not complying?Text it to her, like how Archer sent it to Homura. How else?
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I figure that we vote for it as it happens, seeing as how circumstances can vary depending on what Miyuki chooses to do, and to not further bloat the vote x.x
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Fair enough. Because all it would take is one shit roll of the dice for Miyuki to say "Fuck you, you can't prove that those pictures are real. I don't have to do anything for you, loser." and then we'd have to figure out how to deal with her noncompliance.