We're either at 2-1-1, or 1-1-1-1 depending on whether you interpret intent or just go by what the vote tally says; either way, we could use more votes. More discussion about the merits of the two major standouts would be nice as well, but discussion doesn't get us anywhere without votes.
 
@NMS or @WanderingTwix, plz make a vote that takes the strengths of all of the existing votes put together that's also social savvy enough. I'm too busy irl right now to compose a better/compromised vote. :V
 
Also, I just don't have it in me to do such a thing. Way too difficult. I can't just cut and paste bits I like. And I don't social. I believe I've said this several times now :V
 
[X] Address Hitomi's concerns now
-[X] You completely agree. However, Sayaka's personality means that if not given some outlet, you fear she will almost certainly contract and become a Puella Magi. Worse, her personality means that she will almost certainly die if she does, because she will inevitably confront a situation in which she is powerless, which will cause her to become depressed, and due to the nature of Puella Magi that almost always means a terrible death. You have known many magical girls with Sayaka's personality, and they pretty much always contract once they learn about magic, and then they die.
--[X] Therefor you are focused on trying to mitigate the penalties as much as possible. You hope that by focusing her on defensive and protective Mystic Codes, that when she inevitably fails and is injured, that it will not be life threatening. The resulting depression will be much easier for Sayaka to handle as a human, and hopefully will teach her some caution as well. You don't really like this plan, but it's the best you can do, because you really don't want Sayaka to die.
-[X] But Hitomi has been Sayaka's friend a lot longer than you have. Does she have any insight or a better way to handle it? Because you've seen so many girls like Sayaka die, that you just can't stand it anymore, but you also know that you are not the best at handling people, so you are more than willing to take advice.
 
Day 39 Chapter 8
[X] Elder Haman



"Now, what did you need to speak with me about?"

"Well... It's about Sayaka-san, actually." Somehow, you should have seen that one coming. "Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that she's interested in learning this, but I... Well, I don't feel that she's taking things seriously, and I'm afraid that she'll get hurt, or get into trouble, if she's allowed to actually act on her desires."

If only Hitomi knew... "You aren't wrong," you say; but how can you approach this without tipping your hand to Hitomi that you've seen Sayaka walk down this path countless times before? "Sayaka... She's the type of person who will jump into something without fully thinking it through, isn't she?" Hitomi nods. "With a personality like that, I'm afraid that, if she isn't given some kind of outlet, she'll almost certain strike up a contract with the Incubator and become like me."

Your hands fidget against one another; after how far you've been able to push this timeline, having Sayaka contract would just about throw all your efforts into the trash. You don't want to think like that. You don't want to lose all of the progress you've made so far. "Worse, because of how her personality is, I'm afraid that, when she inevitably runs up against something she isn't prepared to deal with-" Like a crisis of faith, someone who opposes her heroic ideal every step of the way, or the inexorable truth about the system she's sold her soul to; you've seen them all unfold countless times. "-that she'll take it very poorly. That kind of thing can be a death sentence in my line of work, and I've had the misfortune of seeing girls just like Sayaka fail and die countless times because of it."

You've seen Sayaka fail and die countless times because of it.

Hitomi's face, though colour still remains in it, is noticeably a shade paler than it had been before. "Then, what can we do?" she asks. "I'm glad Sayaka-san is excited about learning something, anything, for a change, and I don't want to squash her hopes so soon, but... Well, is it actually safe to let her study this sort of thing, then?"

You shake your head, and reply with "Probably not. But the alternative is worse. I've known many girls with Sayaka's personality, and almost all of them inevitably end up making a contract once they discover the existence of magic. That's why I'm focusing on teaching her defensive and protective applications." You shake your head again, but the memories of all the times you've seen Sayaka walk down this path refuse to fade. "To be honest, I don't like this plan. I wish there was a better way to handle this, but we can't take back the past and remove Sayaka's knowledge of magic. What we can do is temper her, so that when she inevitably runs up against something she can't overcome it isn't life threatening to her."

"However," you hate to cut Hitomi off when she looks like she has something to say, but you have one more thing you need to add before you can let her. "While I've seen this happen many times before, I'll be the first to admit that I'm not the best when it comes to dealing with people on a personal level. You've known Sayaka for a lot longer than I have, so if you have a better idea as to how to handle this, I'm all ears."

You wait a few moments while Hitomi chews on your words. "No, I believe you have the right idea, Akemi-san," she says, shaking her head. "From the sound of things, you have a surprising amount of insight into Sayaka-san's state of mind-" If she only knew. "-and are far, far more knowledgeable of magic and its consequences than I am. I too know that it's too late to take away Sayaka-san's enthusiasm, now that she has her claws in something exciting, so I'd rather go along with your plan of tempering her in preparation for when she meets something she can't handle."

You nod; it looks like things have been resolved, for the moment. "Then, shall we head back?"

"Yes. I imagine Sayaka-san is getting impatient waiting for us."

"Hey Homura- I think your ring is broken."

You and Hitomi return to the kitchen only to be greeted by words from Sayaka you weren't expecting to hear from her. "Come again?" you ask.

"Yeah, your ring- I think it's broken." Your Mystic Code is still on th etable, but it's been moved from where it had been when you and Hitomi stepped out into the hall, and Sayaka has a new glass of water she hadn't had before. "Heh, sorry," Sayaka says, rubbing the back of her head. "It was just sitting there, all tempting, so I thought I'd give it a try and see how it worked, but I couldn't make it do anything."

"That's because you need to send a bit of magical energy into it to make it work," you say, snatching the ring from the table. "You don't have any magic circuits, remember? That's why Archer has you working on Formalcraft first, so you'll have a way to use Mystic Codes without needing your own supply of mana."

Ignoring Sayaka's mumbled "You don't have to rub it in, you know?" you turn to Hitomi, and present her with the ring. "You wanted to get a feel for the practicals of Mystic Codes, correct?" you ask her; Hitomi nods. "Then give this a try." Hitomi takes the ring from you, admiring the chiseled rune design you spent so much time and effort on. "When you send magical energy into the ring, the ice runes I've inscribed activate and lower the temperature of whatever it's in contact with. The intensity of the cooling effect is dependent on the amount of magical energy put into it." For someone like Hitomi, who has a low number of magic circuits compared to even a low-ranking mage, if Archer is to be believed, the amount of magical energy she's able to put through your Mystic Code shouldn't be enough to harm her if it were to backfire. Can Mystic Codes backfire? "You can give it a try, if you'd like."

Fitting the ring to her finger, Hitomi says "Thank you, Akemi-san. I think I shall," as she reaches for the glass of water Sayaka had set out for just this occasion. Her fingers wrap around the half-full glass, and you can just make out the shimmering pale blue as the Isa runes react to Hitomi's magic circuits. After a few seconds, the top centimeter of water has cooled enough that you can see small chunks of ice floating in the glass. "Ah!" Hitomi says, pulling her hand back with a wide smile on her face. "That's so interesting!"

Sayaka reaches for the glass, poking at the chunks of ice, before dipping her whole finger into the water. "Whoa! It's really cold!" she says. "That's super cool, Homura!"

You don't allow puns in your apartment.

"Perhaps once you've gotten a bit more experience with Mystic Codes under your belt, I-" Or Lancer, or possibly McRemitz-san if she's ever in Mitakihara again. "-could teach you about runes. If you're interested, they could help you with creating specific functions of Mystic Code crafting, or achieve certain effects that would normally require a greater amount of magical energy than your magic circuits could supply you with."

And, you think, in addition to helping Hitomi solve the problem faced by her of low available magical energy, once you've gotten further with your knowledge of Inguz, you could probably come up with a way to solve that and take care of the mana requirement for both Hitomi and Sayaka; a sort of mana battery component, if you will.

"Now," you say, taking back your ring from Hitomi and returning it to its proper fingers. "I didn't just invite the two of you over so I could show off my cool new toy, so let's get down to business." You'll keep your mind and your ears open to Sayaka, should she come up with a more concrete idea of where she wants to start that isn't just "Magic Batman", and turn your attentions to Hitomi in the mean time. "Earlier today, you said you had an idea you wanted to start with. What can you tell me about that?"

"Well, as I said before, since my Element is Wind, I thought it would make sense to start with something that involved the air. The idea I had is for a Mystic Code which I can use, in conjunction with my Element, to alter the density of oxygen in the air. With the addition of a spark, this can be used to create fire, but I'm sure there are many other uses for such an ability as well, if I put my mind to it."

You nod, and say "That's a good start. Do you know what you'd need in order to accomplish that?"

"I would need whatever base object I intended to use as the Mystic Code's base; in the anime Sayaka-san showed me where I got the idea, the character in question uses a glove. In the anime it's able to create sparks through the use of friction, but I figure a lighter should work similarly enough, and would be less conspicuous... But then, I suppose a 'good girl' like myself doesn't really have a use for a lighter, do I?"

"What you have a use for is entirely up to you," you say. If Hitomi wants to make her Mystic Code a lighter, who are you to say no? "However, if you're looking for something inconspicuous, a ring or another piece of jewellery is always an option; though I'm not sure how easily you could create a spark."

"Perhaps if I used two rings with a piece of flint?"

[Homura] Wat do?
[Archer] Wat do?​
 
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I believe I covered everything that was outstanding for our study session with Hitomi and Sayaka, but I couldn't really think of a good way to end the update. The [Homura] Wat do? in question is just for if you guys have anything to add, or if one of you has a better way to close out the update than the abrupt ending I've given it. Otherwise, you don't need to include anything.
The [Archer] Wat do? vote is the one I'm more concerned about getting filled. For that, I'm looking to have covered whatever date stuff we feel we need to take care of. Pre- during- and maybe post-date as well.
 
[x][Homura] Suggest she go with the lighter. It just seems more practical.


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I'm honestly drawing a blank for the Archer half of the vote.
 
Honestly, I'm just glad that Hitomi seems to think this is the right way to handle Sayaka too. She's impressed me with how calm headed she is, and I feel that having a friend like her around is going to help Sayaka a lot.
 
Hey, Daigo, how's your sister doing? Is she still in the hospital?" You want to believe that Kasuga-san isn't using Suzuhara Daigo's sister solely to get out of giving you and Mochizumi-san an answer.

"Nah, they let her out. She's still in a cast, but the doctor said she'll be walking again soon. I wish I could have been there when it happened, though. I'd have torn that jerk right off his stupid moped and made him pay her hospital bill."

"What hospital was your sister at?" you ask. "I was in the hospital recently myself, so I'm curious if I might have seen her there."

"Huh? When were you in?"

You don't want to say "My entire seventh year" for pointless pity points, so you say "I got out just before the start of the school year."

"Ah. You definitely didn't see her, then. This only just happened recently."


Considering what this quest is based on, is all this about a girl in a hospital meant to be foreshadowing for something?
 
Considering what this quest is based on, is all this about a girl in a hospital meant to be foreshadowing for something?
Pretty sure its one of the last contractable girls that Archer met earlier in the quest to prevent them from contracting. Hopefully he convinced her successfully, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Chances are she contracted so that she can get out of the hospital and will now be a nuisance to us.
 
Considering what this quest is based on, is all this about a girl in a hospital meant to be foreshadowing for something?
Nope, this is just worldbuilding. Not every little girl who ends up in a hospital is a potential contractee.
Pretty sure its one of the last contractable girls that Archer met earlier in the quest to prevent them from contracting. Hopefully he convinced her successfully, but I'm not holding my breath at this point. Chances are she contracted so that she can get out of the hospital and will now be a nuisance to us.
Those two girls were in the hospital way before Daigo's little sister got hit by an asshole on a moped. One of them was a girl whose legs were crushed by rubble when we fought Oriko and Lancer, and the other was from out of town visiting her dying grandmother. Whether either of them have been, or are planned to be, a nuisance to us in the future is not information I'm at liberty to divulge.
 
[X] Plan Minako Is Secretly A Romance VN Protagonist, Change My Mind
-[X] Sure, that works
-[X] Switch perspectives to Archer
-[X] (Pre-date) Clean yourself up, put on a nice set of different clothes, make sure your Archer patented hair is still sticking up, and set out to pick up Minako at the designated time as previously discussed - don't forget your wallet and other essentials, and to tell Assassin (and Amy) that you're going out
--[X] Go pick up Minako from the office and act your usual suave self (so pretend you know and have full confidence in what you're doing); don't forget to lend a hand to the lady whenever applicable
--[X] If at any point Minako tries that leg thing again during your date, grab ahold of the offending appendage and show her that such actions have dire consequences (aka tickle her)
-[X] (During date) First stop by Minako's apartment if she has to change and get ready, and then go out to take a tour at the local Mitakihara Beer Factory before it closes and have fun talking about the quality of the free beer and snacks with Minako near the end of the tour while cheating using your Structural Analysis.
--[X] Secondly, go to the movies and suggest the movie you previously researched as it seems like the lesser of ten evils.
--[X] Thirdly, go to the Mitakihara Ramen Museum and have your fill with Minako trying different types of Ramen for dinner (some you've never personally tried before).
--[X] Lastly, under the starry night spend some time with her while winding down in the Mitakihara-equivalent of the Yokohama Sankeien Garden (which is named something else) - which happens to be open at and is popular at night in comparison to Yokohama's - which was built rather recently in comparison to the century-old Sankeien Garden with Mitakihara's rather vast cultural/arts budgetary fund to help spread and maintain some of Kyoto's vast history. Very cozy.
---[X] Give Minako a kiss under the moonlight when the time is ripe (probably after they had some heartfelt conversation about caring for their kids, and being good parents, or something like that while snuggled up next to one another looking at the beautiful night sky) in recompense to the one Minako stole from you the other day.
----[X] "It's not like I like you or anything, b-b-baka!" /s
-[X] (Post-date) Escort Minako back home, and princess carry or give her a piggyback ride at some point to let her enjoy herself while (mostly) sober this time and save her feet from any soreness (especially if she happens to be wearing heels); that it fits into your gallant behavior is only a plus. Stay the night, scene fades to black (up to SVS what happens if anything, and depends on how their date went and how close they got).

Typical flint and steel reactions should be fine even she scrapes them together in a way that it wouldn't normally catch kindling on fire, as that's only due to the fact that when such a thing occurs the sparks are more than likely not numerable enough or they don't last long enough. I'm assuming that all she'll need is a very brief spark in order to do whatever it is that she's doing, so this solution's fine even if she's striking them together without care or technique.
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Agh, anyone want to help make this vote? I'm creatively and physically exhausted atm (both due to outside reasons), so I might not be able to make a full vote myself for a while longer. 😩
Everything's fine, this is fine. :V
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So, I'm obviously taking some liberties with the locations and their hours of operation, however this is Mitakihara which is basically Japanese Dubai, and it's also a fictional city from an anime. So I loosely based these locations off of existing ones from Yokohama, similar to the options SVS gave us, except through the power of anime things work out, probably. Minako's ex or stalker may or may not spook them on their date, only time will tell I guess.
 
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-[] A flint and a steel ring would do, much more effectively than two flint rings anyways; you'd recommend in public that she wear them on separate hands however, as it might look a little odd if she wears them side-by-side on the same hand
I guess I didn't adequately convey what Hitomi was thinking in the post, but the idea she was going for was a steel ring, and another ring with a flint inset, so that when she rubs her fingers together it creates the spark she's looking for. The steel ring would be the actual Mystic Code in this situation, with whatever runes or other magic symbols she needs to activate the oxygen density-altering effect; the ring with the flint inset is just a normal ring. I can probably clean that part up when I go to edit in a better ending, pending a complete vote from you or someone else.

And need I remind you, Homura's Soul Gem ring is on her left middle finger, while her Mystic Code ring is on her left pointer, so she has two rings side-by-side on the same hand as well. You didn't think it might look odd when Homura did it, so I'm curious why it would look odd when Hitomi does it.
 
Since it's been almost a full day since the last update and we've been largely radio silent, with only a fraction of a complete vote in the time since, I thought I'd take a look at some of our options for tonight's date, and possibly some things for tomorrow as well, if we decide to make it a family outing. Since Mitakihara is based on the city of Yokohama, I looked to Yokohama for inspiration on what the local attractions might be, and some notable options for us to consider either before or after our movie tonight are:
- The Kanazawa Bunko, an art museum featuring a collection of traditional Japanese and Chinese art objects.
- The Shin-Yokohama Rāmen Museum, the open-air food court dedicated to noodles, if we felt like taking Minako out to eat rather than making her something.
- The Gumyō-ji, a temple built in 721 that's registered as an important cultural asset.
- The Yokohama Museum of Art
- The Yokohama History Museum
Obviously, the local flavour would be changed to reflect Mitakihara, but for an adult date I figure your choice between two art museums, a famous food court if we're not in the mood for cooking, an important historic temple, and a history museum are all good places to start. There's even more than that if we're interested in options for a family outing, since this is just the stuff I thought would be age-appropriate for Archer and Minako.
 
There isn't even a vote yet, and you're already putting your eggs in his basket? Man, at least spit a few ideas for the poor man if you're going to put that much pressure on him.
I've never dated anyone before (too awkward and nervous/scared back in middle/high school, to busy now while working and college) so I have no idea what the heck to suggest.
 
There isn't even a vote yet, and you're already putting your eggs in his basket? Man, at least spit a few ideas for the poor man if you're going to put that much pressure on him.
Well yeah, we gotta slave drive Enetious into making a vote :V

Would the rings getting wet prevent sparks? Is there anything we can do about that?

I guess the history museum would be nice. Maybe we can find an explanation for why the fences in the school are so high :p
I've never dated anyone before (too awkward and nervous/scared back in middle/high school, to busy now while working and college) so I have no idea what the heck to suggest.
Love is basically a foreign concept to me. Well, unless you count me saying I love my pc/the internet or reading :V
 

You're not a mindless sheep!

I've never dated anyone before (too awkward and nervous/scared back in middle/high school, to busy now while working and college) so I have no idea what the heck to suggest.
Love is basically a foreign concept to me. Well, unless you count me saying I love my pc/the internet or reading

So that makes three of us.

....

Of the suggestions given by SVS, I think the food court one is best.

[x][Homura] Suggest she go with the lighter. It just seems more practical.
[x][Archer] After the movie, take Minako out for dinner.
 
I'll never say no to some free points! :V

Am sick, but feeling more up for making the vote just about now (editing it now in fact). Quick question, what exactly is the timeframe of Archer and Minako's date? In my notes I have them doing this today which is Saturday, however I also have it listed down that Minako works her full day on Saturdays (unless I missed something at some point) so she'd only be available after 7 PM. Is that accurate?
Would the rings getting wet prevent sparks? Is there anything we can do about that?
... I think there'd be a more pressing issue than that, since you're insinuating that Hitomi should light things on fire with her Mystic Code while it's raining. Unless you're speculating a scenario in which someone dunks her rings in water for whatever reason, in which case water slides off of metal really really easily and quickly.
 
I've never dated anyone before (too awkward and nervous/scared back in middle/high school, to busy now while working and college) so I have no idea what the heck to suggest.
Love is basically a foreign concept to me. Well, unless you count me saying I love my pc/the internet or reading
So that makes three of us.
What the fuck is going on? When did I become the most socially functional person here? That's the exact opposite of what I am.

Also, if you shut-ins don't get it, someone with no dating experience is perfect for giving advice in this situation, because need I remind you, Archer has no dating experience either. Your input matters more in this situation, because what you would suggest is more reflective of what someone with no dating experience would do than what someone with dating experience would do.
Well yeah, we gotta slave drive Enetious into making a vote
You're not a mindless sheep!
Take NMS's advice and help give contributions. I can't believe the number of times I've had to say this. Are the two discussion-related tags up there for no reason?
Would the rings getting wet prevent sparks? Is there anything we can do about that?
... I think there'd be a more pressing issue than that, since you're insinuating that Hitomi should light things on fire with her Mystic Code while it's raining. Unless you're speculating a scenario in which someone dunks her rings in water for whatever reason, in which case water slides off of metal really really easily and quickly.
The rings getting wet would prevent sparks, but remember, it's the oxygen density-alteration that's the actual effect of Hitomi's proposed Mystic Code. Making fire is just the first application of that the came to her mind. Even if the flint gets wet, she can still do things like make air bubbles (especially useful if her being fully submerged is the reason she can't make a spark), suffocate someone, create wind barriers/Invisible Air, etc.
I guess the history museum would be nice. Maybe we can find an explanation for why the fences in the school are so high
Of the suggestions given by SVS, I think the food court one is best.
So that's one for the ramen museum, and one for the history museum. I'm interested to hear your arguments for each.
Quick question, what exactly is the timeframe of Archer and Minako's date? In my notes I have them doing this today which is Saturday, however I also have it listed down that Minako works her full day on Saturdays (unless I missed something at some point) so she'd only be available after 7 PM. Is that accurate?
Archer is picking Minako up from the office when she gets off her shift, so yes, 7 is correct.
 
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So that's one for the ramen museum, and one for the history museum. I'm interested to hear your arguments for each.

From my own experiences, traditional museums usually involve a lot of walking and standing around while you look at things. While not necessarily a bad thing, it's not something I imagine someone who just got done a long day of work would enjoy.
 
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