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theaceoffire said:
He is now outside of the framework. The Patriarch himself is involved with the boy's future, and as long as Adam gets the supplies and data he craves his actual title or position doesn't matter to him.
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"Look, even the uber-genius who remade the world's cultivation system and was obviously going to ascend within 100 years started as an outer disciple and worked their way up by contributing to the sect. If he wasn't too proud for it, what makes you think you should be able to pull an arrogant young master act and get out of proving yourself by contributing first?"

Nobody in the sect cares what Adam's rank is, except idiots like Sixth Elder (who the others are happy to let have enough rope to hang himself), but it makes a good demonstration of the sect's stated values for future generations, and it helps a little with slowing down how fast the rest of the world catches on compared to making a huge fuss about immediately naming him the Patriarch's successor or whatever. His rank is "one of the biggest sect contributors since its founding who even helps Saint cultivators make progress" and that kind of trumps the usual outer / inner / blah scheme.

Plus it's not like the sect knows he's the descended avatar of an Outsider. They think he's a teenager who happens to be freakishly brilliant. Sage or not, they're going to treat him somewhat like he's still actually a teenager, at least to the point of sticking to their progression system which seems like it was probably handed down over generations specifically to keep genius teenagers from getting a big head then getting themselves killed in a stupid way or else going all psycho.
 
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dreadparrot said:
Sounds like almost every programming project I've ever seen that's been around long enough to go through a few generations of programmers and managers asking for some random feature or change to be added urgently.

Take into account that formation masters of any skill at all are rare, that their system of knowledge is stuck on an apprentice-and-guild basis, that the formations are hundreds if not thousands of years old, that the changes are getting made by any new formation master in the sect who thinks they know what they're doing, and that formations are physically instantiated patterns which make it more akin to a circuitboard that's been hacked repeatedly than a software project where even the most eldritch legacy code probably has comments and version control...uh...it's kind of lucky that the formations don't turn everyone in the region into chaos mutants.
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You forgot that in this cultivation world all effective programming code is: undocumented,
documented inside a nested project file several departments estranged,
documented via mnemonic tricks scribbled on a napkin,
documented via links to missing documents because the creator was a jumped up script kiddy who thinks bibliographies are magic runes,
documented with in-line pseudocode comments written in prose, etc.
 
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shypunk said:
i have a feeling adam will make sure everything is documented so it isnt lost or have morons tweak perfected stuff he did
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They referred to his notes/instructions (Forgot which) as a highly advanced way of writing a large amount of condensed information in a surprisingly succinct way. So while it's perfectly understandable.. It's basically a highly sophisticated dry scientific journal with eye-drying amounts of formulae compared to 16th century Yiddish song-writing bullshit. Both are only understandable by people who specialize in what the subject is written about.

So only someone who understands body cultivation techniques in a deep way could deeply understand Adam's Jade Slip to the point of saying "This is what this does" but anyone can just follow the steps in a "Monkey see monkey do" kind of way. Kinda like how programmers usually handle physics simulations by copying physics equations fit for the fidelity of physics interaction that they desire.

At least, that's what I understood from the story, I could be overthinking it.
 
It's less dry reading, and more esoteric knowledge. The works that Adam is reading uses flowery script in a language that needs to be complicated to understand concepts better. Adam has basically done the discount 'Library of Heaven's Path' method and compressed and simplified the techniques he's researched into something like a TL;DR. Unfortunately, some terms and words that he uses have little to no equivalent in this world, and thus need to be re translated to be easier to understand, otherwise the whole thing is just unreadable. Thankfully I think that Adam has given an explanation to those unknown words in his notes, so people don't have to blindly translate it and fuck things up.

It's like someone taking Shakespeare's writing, and translating and summarizing it from Ye Olde English to modern slang (including words like yeet, fam, vibe, etc.), then giving it back to someone from Shakespeare's time. It'll be faster to read, but the terminology of the work is so different that no one will know what the book is talking about.
 
On the rank thing, I'm guessing these Farm workers are "Outer Assistants". People who have achieved some degree of cultivation (first through third Houtian?) but didn't have the talent or other contributions to get promoted.

Adam would be understandably be very intimidating to such members, even if they haven't noticed the guards. Younger, Higher Rank, possibly higher cultivation, a personal student already, and freaky fire breath and glowing scar tattoos? Yeah, very intimidating. Not to mention the apparent Favor of someone even higher, given the field.

Now, the real question, how many people properly remember those buried Formations are there, and how many are surprised by what Adam is having them do to start off? How many assistants are like "why am I destroying the field?" at least until they got deep enough to find the formation bits.

On the other hand, this could be a great chance for those Assistants, as a clever one could demonstrate at least some understanding or organizational skills to aid Adam, and become an Adam whisperer like Sister Quan. And even if not, Adam probably wouldn't mind the distraction of giving pointers to them if they can get the courage to ask, and it doesn't slow down the work.

Edit: I forgot that Sister Quan was an Inner Assistant, technically a rank higher than Adam. So this freaky Outer Disciple is wandering around with an Inner Assistant acting as his hand and literal mouth, an inversion of their Ranks. Freaky indeed :p
 
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    o_O Shit. Was considering updating one of my stories or copying this one over... But that is terrifying.

    How long is too long? I was looking forward at finally writing over 500k, but would they delete my account when I eventually hit a million or two!?
     
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    Thank God for archives of our own. That site doesn't care how long your fanfiction is, as long as you tagged the story appropriately.
     
    theaceoffire said:
    o_O Shit. Was considering updating one of my stories or copying this one over... But that is terrifying.

    How long is too long? I was looking forward at finally writing over 500k, but would they delete my account when I eventually hit a million or two!?
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    I doubt you need to be worried about length, there are people I've followed for years that have some stories over a million words, others that each chapter is like 10k words. You'll be fine.
     
    woodzrox said:
    What does this mean for Core Threads? I love that story and am (im)patiently waiting for the next part.
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    I don't want to risk trying to support two stories and failing to update either. The interactive format of posting here helps with my motivation, and Core Threads has a fairly large cast that is a tad difficult to support at the moment without lowering the writing quality.

    I am still mulling over the plot, but I also risk wandering off into another snippet idea if I lose my focus.
     
    Was Core Threads the story that you were thinking of updating? I'm going to make an assumption here, but we love them all, so hearing which one it is might make us beg more or less for an update somewhere, anywhere, dear god just update *ahem*... Anyway, updating any story is good.
     
    theaceoffire said:
    I don't want to risk trying to support two stories and failing to update either. The interactive format of posting here helps with my motivation, and Core Threads has a fairly large cast that is a tad difficult to support at the moment without lowering the writing quality.
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    To be fair, it really depends on how you move forward with Core Threads. Broken Adventure has Adam, his wives, and the people he helps/works with in various worlds (who are shown heavily while in those worlds). Pre-worldhopping, it had a cast of half a dozen or so primary characters and twice that regularly occurring. That obviously increased a lot with his worldhopping, though only a few of the new characters get added to regular cast after he leaves that world.

    Core Threads has something like 30 total (10 student, 20 adults) recurring cast. That's not all that much more than this one... And you could easily have Harry worldhopping like Adam where you cut down his interaction with the vast majority of origin-world people.

    I was going to suggest that you could also cut down the cast of Core Threads by limiting Harry's regular interaction with people outside of Hogwards but with his power level, the ease of teleport travel, and his desire for family / friends, I don't see him limiting his contact. Maybe exiling him from the world in a similar fashion to Adam's current adventure, severely limiting his powers (perhaps the opposite of the girl-who-lived world where his magic is the equivalent of local average?).

    Have you considered cross-posting Core Threads here to get the interactivity on it?

    As for juggling the two stories, maybe swap back and forth after an arc? I've seen a couple authors do 10-20k on one story then swap back to the other. Though with your posting rate that might be more like 100k.

    Though, if you're not ready to take on going back to Core Threads for real then have you considered doing what some other stories have done and make off-shoots / story-length omakes? Canon or even non-canon ones. Send Harry off to a new world without a means to return home, or even a journey accross worlds. Writing something like that might kickstart your Core Threads muse. Examples of this would be It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm]) Crossover, Mauling Snarks (Worm), Taylor Varga (Worm/Luna Varga) Crossover, How to Train Your Endbringer.
     
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    I will say that I'd prefer you just write what your muse is willing to produce. I don't like this story any more then Core Threads, or any others, and it does seem your on a roll here in Broken Adventure. So, do what you want, but keep doing it! :)
     
    Anacronism said:
    You could also upload each World arc as it's own story.
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    Actually a pretty decent idea. I know there were some who didn't care for the MLP story arc, and I almost skipped the cultivation arc because of how I couldn't get into that sub-genre of fantasy in the past, etc. And the way Adam writes things, he doesn't actively require you to read the whole MLP/Stars wars/etc arc if you wanna know what's going on because he tends to put brief explanations like "Oh, I discovered this or that when I was visiting the star wars universe, etc" without going too much into it in most of his chapters as a reminder to readers.
     
    theaceoffire said:
    o_O Shit. Was considering updating one of my stories or copying this one over... But that is terrifying.

    How long is too long? I was looking forward at finally writing over 500k, but would they delete my account when I eventually hit a million or two!?
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    Pretty sure that's just for individual chapters. Or maybe just a holdover from when the site was still young?
     
    I would say too concentrate on only one story if you aren't sure you can two at the same time. Writing is quite a personal thing in my opinion and it's different for everyone.
    Otherwise I have seen some people allocating a portion of the year per story, others update as inspiration strikes them, some make sure to update regularly but which one is updated depends on their inspiration, others use polls, some only update once a year, as I said there are a lot of approaches and you have to decide which one works best for you.
     
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