Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Just popping in to leave a blanket statement.

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It's still useful to know which boxes he checks innately i.e. not from his tech. He may have picked up a Changer power this time, but he's still short an innate Blaster power and, uh, Stranger? I think that's it.

If Joe gets Hard Science from Raildex, that could give him a Blaster Power if he rolls the right Esper Power which is Electrokinesis, Pyromaster or Meltdowner.

Of course, getting a mere Blaster Power from the possible Esper Powers would be kind of lame and wouldn't really be that useful compared to the others. The most useful thing there is definitely Imagine Breaker which solves quite a lot of Joe's problems given how powerful it is in the series.
 
possibly before it bursts out of the lab.
Two day regeneration might be seriously useful too, once Dragon realizes she can afford to do destructive testing, gaining better data.
and damaging part that they will need to study


I'm not sure if I get what you mean. They might manage to seal Fleet's clone on the motoroid (doubtful), and if they manage that they might be able to take it apart. But they only have less than 48 hours and counting to do so, and considering the chaos they will likely have even less time with it. When that time limit is up, the motoroid won't repair itself in enemy clutches then try to escape. That's not what the fiat does. When time's up, the motoroid and any pieces that were cut off, removed, or otherwise destroyed will be taken from wherever they are currently and will reappear in the workshop fully restored along with the Fleet copy. Any research they achieve (which I imagine will be very little) in the time they have will be all they get.
 
Joe looks at Bakuda's crap and states what it does, and Bakuda gets pissed. At every turn, this story has treated tinkertech as actual technology, not dummy placeholders.

Between that, the fact that Worm canon doesn't treat it as placeholders either, and the fact that it adds an additional step of complexity to why Joe can manipulate it as tech, Occam's says it's just (super) tech in BCF.
Even in cases where the tech is actual tech and not just the shard making effects the shard still does a lot to make it work.

Consider Bakuda's timestop.bombs and other exotic weaponry. Building them with real science and engineering if it is possible at all would probably involve building something like a massive particle accellerator in order to collect exotic material. Bakuda can make them with stuff out of a hardware store because the shard provides exotic resources and super-precise manufacturing.
 
Random inspiration so here we go
Now, onto the future and ignoring the ABB capes? Joe has four big priorities. One is his meeting with the therapist that probably knows his alter-ego, and hasn't been contacted even once while major things happened to that alter-ego.
I looked across the room to Dr. Campbell.
"You've certainly recovered well. How are you feeling after all of that? I'd be surprised if that transformation wasn't painful, and you've killed multiple people in the last week. How are you holding up? Mentally speaking of course."
I sighed. I had suspected that he suspected I was Apeiron, but it seemed he was sure of the fact.
"I don't know. My power helps me accept hard decisions, so the kills are more a personal failure than anything else... The transformation actually doesn't hurt, and I spent most of yesterday recovering. I'm mostly fine."
The doctor nodded "You seem tired. I don't think I've seen you like this since we first met... You're stressed and you're angry at yourself for Thursdays events." I pursed my lips as the doctor read me like an open book. "You could not have predic-"
"I could have and I should have! I fucked up!" my voice cracked as I yelled, only to immediately catch myself after the outburst. I sighed as I processed the fact that Dr. Campbell was not going to yell back. "I spent three days preparing for a bunch of shit and it wasn't enough... I didn't think things through... I got cocky and like Icarus I fell back to the earth..."
"I for one, don't see how you could hav-"
"I really could have done better..."
Doctor Campbell seemed to catch himself, and retreated back to his calm neutrality. I didn't blame him for having a hard time staying professional when faced with Apeiron, master Tinker "Very well, if you insist. I'm not a tinker so I can't honestly judge... One thing I've always appreciated about you is your commitment to improve. I would ask you to think about how you could improve in preparation for future conflicts, and to consider how difficult all those changes would be to implement. You don't need to inform me, I likely wouldn't understand most the tech ideas, but do consider these things."
I nodded, beginning to consider multiple ways I could use to avoid such a pyrrhic victory in the future...
"Cape Business aside, I'd like to ask how you've been sleeping as of late?"
One is the aforementioned cleanup as no small part of it is either Joe's fault or something only he and a few others can safely deal with (looking at exotic bombs and whatever combo explosives he didn't neutralize before breaking off from damage control). Of course, he'll also have to decide how mercenary he wants to be about it too (his heroic ideals make sure it'll happen, but he's invested in being neutral, and just acting gratis will blow that while trying to strong-arm the city could tank his reputation again).
I ran across the docks, using Puigardhon, an advanced vaccum cleaner Named "world cleaner", to suck up the Minovsky particles. What was more of a household issue than keeping clean? Super Scientific Solution allowed me to create a long-range vacuum, however due to needing to use it for household reasons, I was sucking up a bunch of dust and other "dirty" particles and aerosols too.
I then approached the tiny port. Most of the dust had burned out in the last 12 hours, but I still needed to fix this mess. I began fabricating alchemical arrays before me, using them to collapse the earth back to a stable position and to put out a few stray fires. I pushed all the remaining glaciers into the ocean, watching them slowly melt in the mid-spring waters.
I then used some Alchemy to recreate the infrastructure this port had. It looked amazing, but I had no time to ruminate on that. My eyes lingered on the scorched ground where my Motoroid had been for a second, before I moved on.
I continued running down the docks and pushed a bit into downtown, pushing Puigardhon, absorbing any residue of the webs or sleeping gas that remained, as well as the dust and ash left by some of my dust effects.
I was glad I was wearing my Invisibility cloak, because otherwise this would be hard to explain.
And finally, Coil is still around in the background, and Joe still has had strong negative readings on the Undersider's boss. He's just been too distracted by immediate problems to bother. I'd put him as a toss up in priority with Dragon, possibly later if Coil keeps things cool and Dragon is aggressive in her...persuit...once the City is somewhat stabilized.
I looked at Lisa blankly.
"I'm sorry for just telling you this now, but I'm sure he's planning something big, and he's using that person he kidnapped to help him. He really wants you to break the ABB."
At the mention of the kidnapping I felt that same dread I had felt as I watched the bank robbery. Or rather what my passenger had felt.
"Thomas Calvert you say... Fortress Constructions CEO. Currently in a meeting... I could kill him."
"But then the undersiders..."
"I guess I'll take you guys in, but that means more restrictions and less pay."
"I've actually nearly got his assets, I know you helped WEDGD bust the ABB, so..."
"I'll help, we can do that now actually."
"Thanks... Also, did you steal some of that ABB stealth tech? No, you didn't... How is this closet thinker-proof?"
I elected to not tell her that she was currently standing in a separate dimension, but was surrounded by a physical hologram, and that the curtain I had closed "because" was necessary to the effect.
She looked back to the curtain "Is that actually it?"
I smiled and nodded, then scowled hard "I need you to tell me about shit like this in future. Capiche?"
She nodded as she got up "Whatever you say, Boss."
"Alright, time to hack Coil. Promise not to freak out?"
She glanced around the room confused "Yes?"
The physical hologram shifted, becoming a corridor leading to the computer core. "Let's go hack the fucker."
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had no idea for the dragon issue, sorry.
 
No no nononononononomoomonomomonomonononononononon! The bitch survived, WHY!? He got checkmated and then pulled off surprise power interaction when she was right there! He literally had a hand on her. And she gets to live to be a pain later... fucking wonderful. So he didn't actually stop Oni Lee, never found Bakuda, March will be just fine after a "heal grenade" and he had to reveal so many things to hopefully kill Lung. Aside from saving Chen, this was a loss.
 
I'm not sure if I get what you mean. They might manage to seal Fleet's clone on the motoroid (doubtful), and if they manage that they might be able to take it apart. But they only have less than 48 hours and counting to do so, and considering the chaos they will likely have even less time with it. When that time limit is up, the motoroid won't repair itself in enemy clutches then try to escape. That's not what the fiat does. When time's up, the motoroid and any pieces that were cut off, removed, or otherwise destroyed will be taken from wherever they are currently and will reappear in the workshop fully restored along with the Fleet copy. Any research they achieve (which I imagine will be very little) in the time they have will be all they get.
Workshop (Personal Reality) 100:
Each purchase of this adds to your Personal Reality Workshop needed to perform specific type of craft, which is to be specified when purchase is made. It comes with a basic set of tools and supplies. Good for fixing or creating all sorts of things, although any complex parts or nonstandard supplies will have to be brought in from outside. Additional purchases can add different types of Workshops to your Personal Reality or expand existing ones. Anything built in one of those workshops is fiat backed to be restored to its original condition within 48 hours if damaged or destroyed.
So yeah, wrong on it reappearing in the workshop. The Undersider's knives didn't go back to Joe either, so no precedent or anything either.
I'll agree fleet will probably be restored, due to all the upgrades with fleet still in the system, but depending on the nature of containment, it may be a struggle to escape. We also can't be assured that the truncated copy of Fleet that appears will be the latest one, fiat says "original condition" so it may revert him back to the last upgrade.
It is not as clean-cut as you make it out to be. There are honestly multiple "what if"s to consider.
 
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No no nononononononomoomonomomonomonononononononon! The bitch survived, WHY!? He got checkmated and then pulled off surprise power interaction when she was right there! He literally had a hand on her. And she gets to live to be a pain later... fucking wonderful. So he didn't actually stop Oni Lee, never found Bakuda, March will be just fine after a "heal grenade" and he had to reveal so many things to hopefully kill Lung. Aside from saving Chen, this was a loss.
YO! SPOILER YOUR SHIT!
 
So yeah, wrong on it reappearing in the workshop. The undersider's knives didn't go back to Joe either, so no precedent or anything either.
I'll agree fleet will probably be restored, due to all the upgrades with fleet still in the system, but depending on the nature of containement, it may be a struggle to escape. We also can't be assured that the truncated copy of Fleet that appears will be the latest one, fiat says "original condition" so it may revert him back to the last upgrade.
It is not as clean cut as you make it out to be. There are honestly multiple "what if"s to consider.
Wait does the moteroid have a QED? If so free access to everything!
 

It is literally a spoiler, seeing as it was ambiguous. I got the sense she died. Your experience is not universal.
It literally had to get confirmed via wog ffs

The wording wasn't really ambiguous. Yes, many people were hoping really hard, and no one's immune to having their expectations reinforced by emotions. But the text itself? Pretty darn definitive. You could make the argument that the availability or lack of healing makes the long-term outcome more uncertain, and I wouldn't disagree. But the immediate aftermath? No, it's pretty clear.
 
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when lord rolls the kerbal one I hope he includes
Green Alien Space Babes (+0) Rather being being cute, cuddly, roundtund version of Irkens, Kerbals are now human-like, green-skinned aliens with actual gender differences. Rather than being 3 feet tall, they instead seem to average from 4' 5" to 5' 4". Weirdly enough, they still weigh similar, probably so as to not throw off the fuel requirements too badly. For your companion corp, you can pick and choose the gender ratio as you so desire - the default is 50/50.
 
I was reading through the V2 of the forge and it has a Valkrye core from battle harem side character quest. Just imagine how much Joe could boost the already impressive suits. They already have enough sensors to scan entire cities and enough weapon to outright kill lung. Pretty sure a Runic enhance divine admantium mythril suit could probably take scion. They do have the space and time hax needed to fight them.

God I so want to read about Joe getting that. It would be awesome.

@LordRoustabout how effective would a Valkrye core be if enhance by Joe. Would it be better than the motroid.
 
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When time's up, the motoroid and any pieces that were cut off, removed, or otherwise destroyed will be taken from wherever they are currently and will reappear in the workshop fully restored along with the Fleet copy.
That's not what happened to the knives tho?

So yeah, wrong on it reappearing in the workshop. The Undersider's knives didn't go back to Joe either, so no precedent or anything either.
They went back to the Undersiders as I recall. And also the broken pieces disappeared while the main part regenerated.
 
So, those who are more familiar with the Percy Jackson books (I only read the original trilogy and watched the first movie) I understand there is a way for the descendants of a God that has faded/been killed to slowly begin to inherit his power. Is this correct? What are the mechanisms involved? Would this apply to the descendants of a God living on a world totally cut off from his influence? Or is this whole thing fanon? If it isn't, would it be helped along if people began worshiping the Demigod? Asking for a friend.
 
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It is literally a spoiler, seeing as it was ambiguous. I got the sense she died. Your experience is not universal.
It literally had to get confirmed via wog ffs
Dude you completely ignored the last half of his post. The part on how that person probably did not even see the spoiler based on his post. Tbh it's really confusing now that we have to determine who is spoiling and who is speculating.
Everyone is talking about how the PRT is gonna recruit joe now. The problem is that despite not having much of a problem with non local PRT they quite literally have nothing to offer him, at best he'll be an ally.

I would really like to see the PRT arrest Bakuda in the next chapter. It is definitely possible especially joe sent info their way. I feel like that would make it all worth it and show some realistic competence on their part.

My problem is that despite WoG saying that the abb is going to fall apart soon how long is that going to take, 100k words? Remember we still have somer's rock to go and Bakuda+Lee are still alive. It looks like this arc still has a ways to go
 
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More problematic than that though, was the destruction of the Motoroid. The platform with omni-sensors, light-speed weapons (and mounts to make use of that speed as a PD array), and an AI housed in a super-computer to aim it. How did a clone just pop into existence next to it, and then last the whole .1-.25 seconds it took for Marche's glyph to detonate without getting blasted out of existence or pushed away (and thus dusting the explosive or getting out of it's fairly limited range)? Oni-Lee certainly couldn't just dog-pile it, he was targeting all the other drones simultaneously. The only thing I can think of is that A) the drones were holding still at a 'safe' altitude (which fits with Joe's arrogance and lack of knowledge at the time) for more accurate fire-support and B) the laser PD array is directional and would have taken some time to fully spin around (which is possible, but seems rather dumb when Joe built it for a teleporter that likes to surround his enemies).

Oni Lee totally dog piled the Motoroid. Oni Lee didn't get splatted instantly at the start of the fight, which mean that yes, the turrets need to turn, and yes, he teleport faster than the turrets can turn (or use the terrain as cover). So him getting a critical mass of clones after a brief pause in the fight is not far-fetched. Also remember he have March timing behind him. For the safe attitude, the ABB use stealth tech that make long range detection impossible (otherwise Joe would have just checked Bakuda wasn't there and then blasted the whole city block).

I do agree that Joe should have gassed the whole facility.

Now, onto the future and ignoring the ABB capes? Joe has four big priorities. One is his meeting with the therapist that probably knows his alter-ego, and hasn't been contacted even once while major things happened to that alter-ego.

The therapist knows he is a cape, but he might not know he is Apeiron.

and the workshop is open (likely, Joe is a recluse),

By fiat, the workshop NEED to be open if Joe is inside. Yes, for once fiat work against him.
 
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They went back to the Undersiders as I recall. And also the broken pieces disappeared while the main part regenerated.
Broken material returned to the majority of the mass, yes.
But the knives didn't "return" to the undersiders. A few of them broke and they just let them be for 48 hours, afterwards they repaired themselves.
 
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