Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Yeah dragon's R/E is mostly getting past the black-boxes and scaling things back to modern engineering standards. Joe has not properly black-boxed his shit, so even if Dragon can't figure out the more magitech aspects, there's certainly some stuff she'll be able to R/E from the motoroid.

He didn't intentionally black box his shit, but it is built on :
  • Concept modern science don't understand (ex: mass effect)
  • Material that can't be recreated (ex: celestial bronze)
  • Laws of physics that only exist for him (fiat)
  • Outright Magic (ex: call bead)
And if that wasn't enough, his broken tech only stays broken for a short amount of time. Reverse engineer his tech goes from "theoretically possible but impossible in practice" to "outright impossible even in theory".
 
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Joe got some scans of March's Sting power. Should we expect him to be able to replicate its effects soon?

Sting is grade A bullshit. "Pack more energy that there is in one universe" level of bullshit. It's the weapon Entities use to kill other Entities.

It's extremely unlikely Joe can reverse engineer that one, it's out of his league. In fact, since Joe's passenger his pessimistic for a battle between Joe and an Entity (Scion), it might stay out of his league even with the whole Forge unlocked. That's how bullshit Sting is.
 
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He didn't intentionally black box his shit, but it is built on :
  • Concept modern science don't understand (ex: mass effect)
  • Material that can't be recreated (ex: celestial bronze)
  • Laws of physics that only exist for him (fiat)
  • Outright Magic (ex: call bead)
And if that wasn't enough, his broken tech only stays broken for a short amount of time. Reverse engineering his tech goes from "theoretically possible but impossible in practice" to "outright impossible even in theory".
I'll give you the last 3 but "Concept modern science don't understand" is a terrible argument, not only because of the fact Dragon has a Shard, but also because she could likely figure out what parts of his tech apply to what function, and even then pull an Apeiron and integrate the tech into her own. Of course that will likely break after two days, but it's still possible for her to extract alot.
If they can contain fleet, and/or remove him from the motoroid, they can continue ripping the motoroid apart and studying it.
 
I'll give you the last 3 but "Concept modern science don't understand" is a terrible argument, not only because of the fact Dragon has a Shard, but also because she could likely figure out what parts of his tech apply to what function, and even then pull an Apeiron and integrate the tech into her own. Of course that will likely break after two days, but it's still possible for her to extract alot.

It's part of the "theoretically possible to reverse engineer", but the time limit is what make it "practically impossible". You can't build a new field of study in two days (unless your name is Joe... maybe).
 
It's part of the "theoretically possible to reverse engineer", but the time limit is what make it "practically impossible". You can't build a new field of study in two days (unless your name is Joe... maybe).
That's assuming that Joe is lucky with fleet even being intact in there (Not sure how repair applies to programs, esp ones downloaded after creation iirc), and that Fleet can out-arm any defensive measures put there by the PRT, which honestly who knows. This also assumes the PRT will be incapable of damaging the thing again and retreiving it, possibly before it bursts out of the lab.
Two day regeneration might be seriously useful too, once Dragon realizes she can afford to do destructive testing, gaining better data.
 
If they can contain fleet, and/or remove him from the motoroid, they can continue ripping the motoroid apart and studying it.
Rip apart the motoroid, the only way they are going to be able to that is with a all or nothing effect, true they have fletchette, but I about that the youth gaurd will be happy that she is spending all her time dismantling a machine. So oncethey take it apart they have 48 hours to learn what they can and then have to call lily to cut it open, and damaging part that they will need to study.

Also no call bead so no power source, that won't help, But also no fleet.
 
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Rip apart the motoroid, the only way they are going to be able to that is with a all or nothing effect, true they have fletchette, but I about that the youth gaurd will be happy that she is spending all her time dismantling a machine. So oncethey take it apart they have 48 hours to learn what they can and then have to call lily to cut it open, and damaging part that they will need to study.

Also no call bead so no power source, that won't help, But also no fleet.
I'm fairly certain that the Sheilds need to be engaged, which if fleet isn't restored, mean they won't be an issue. Even the call bead can be brought back by fiat. If fleet is restored however, and doesn't get lasered down or anything ridiculous, he'll bust out with The Tonfas, and they'll barely have shit.
 
Really, I never expected this story to become popular. I'm not trying to humblebrag, I just never figured I would get as devoted an audience with a concept like this. I'm very grateful to my reader base and am trying to maintain the quality of the writing, but I am a bit concerned that some of these issues may be fundamental problems with the structure of how the story is written. That it has gotten big enough that the cracks in the foundation are starting to show.
at least for me part of the charm of the story comes from the semi random method of the powerup which I admit does make long term planning tricky for the story but you're doing quite well IMO
 
Semblance (The Shallow)
What if in that Pivotal Moment, Joe unlocked his super-speed semblance?

Semblance

I barely had time to react. Without the life fiber energy coursing through me I would have had no time to react. As it stood it took my training, divine reflexes, life fiber alterations, direct enhancements from Tetra, and the full force of One Thing at a Time just to have a hope of taking any action. Mostly it was allowing me to experience the onset of mind-numbing terror at a rate that would have impressed the most cowardly individual on the planet.

Make no mistake. Terror was the correct response to this situation. I was surrounded by death. Absolute, unquestionable death. All my touted invincibility, the progression from the durability of a piece of steel strapped to my wrist, upgraded to hyper-alloys, then Skyforged metals, then mithril, then enchanted metals, then adamantium, then volcano wrought hybrid materials, then full-on divine armor, none of it made any difference against this attack.

A single instance of it could kill me. The assembled blast from dozens of copies would reduce my body to the consistency of chunky salsa, at least what portions of it weren't annihilated by multidimensional effects of the blast.

I was staring death in the face and only had an instant to find a way out. It took much less than that to realize there wasn't an 'out' from this situation. I would be limited to the slightest of actions before the effect went off. March had timed this as close as possible. Whoever, wherever the original Oni Lee was, he would have barely enough time to cast down the bomb board and save himself. Of course, with March what would normally be considered 'barely enough time' was basically a guarantee of success.

I put the mechanism of this trap out of my mind. I stopped thinking about how it had been set up, how this attack mechanism could basically kill any cape on the planet with a decent shot against Endbringers. I didn't consider the implications of this, what would happen if I failed, the aftermath, and my very probable death on a single mistake. Instead, I focused solely on finding a way out of this alive.

I couldn't kill enough of the Oni Lee clones before the detonation. My reflexes weren't that fast, and every other attack method was too slow. There was no way to clear the crowd.

Or was there?

In that moment of fear, as I faced death's door, I felt a resonance. I was Jozef Duris, and I was facing my biggest threat yet. And what did Jozef Duris do when faced with hardship? I'd turn around and run away.

My Aura burned and laced itself into my very being, and time truly slowed to a crawl. I had time to run away. I felt the strain on my Aura and I knew I could only hold this for 20 relative seconds, but those were worth so much more with Life Fiber power suffusing my flesh, meaning I had, effectively speaking, three minutes to act. I looked at the Oni Lees around me, noticing each was redirecting their gaze at another, in a spiral pattern, except for the last, who was looking to the ground, likely about to teleport there. I pushed him down and to the right and began to descend rapidly, keeping my grip to drag him down with me.

As I did, I flexed my hand, pressing on Oni Lee's optic nerve. There'd be no escape for him. No way to teleport. He'd die to the attack he tried to kill me with.

As I hit the ground, I saw Lung and Triumph engaged in battle, Triumph about to have his chest punctured by March's massive gaudy sword. March had to die. I ran at her and dropped a damaged, incapable-of-teleporting Lee next to her, the plate with her power applied pressed against her back. They'd both die.

I felt my Aura flicker. This was straining. I was connected to a deep aspect of myself, that of running away. To do anything but that took a lot of focus and effort. I glanced to an alcove where I could see Bakuda standing with two men who were holding cameras. Nothing I could do about that. I glanced to Lung and Triumph. The former would maim if not kill the latter, so I grabbed the Nemean cape and ran out of the port.

I made it about a block away before my Aura depleted and I crashed.

Triumph dove into a roll as I let him go and ate asphalt. And I heard him cough. "Tha-" another rough cough left his throat "Thanks."

I stood up and nodded as the crack of an explosion made its way to us a block away. "You're welcome."

"I think he was gonna kill me…"

"I agree."

I heard the roar of a thruster, and jumped up, grabbing the motoroid of my duplicate, hitching a ride back towards the Port. I waved to triumph and sent my duplicate a message through my implant "Hey."

"Alright, I felt that, who'd you take out?"

"Yeah, souls are one and all, got Oni Lee and March."

"Ready to take out the rest?"

"Yeah, let's slow down a bit though, let our reserves recover." And the Fleet within the motoroid obeyed.

The copy of Survey in the motoroid sent us a message, "Scanners of the main motoroid were not damaged, high-quality scans of March's power have been caught. Main Survey did not manage to send the data before our communication broke down."

We both signaled our thanks to the AI, now more excited to retrieve the main motoroid.

"I'll focus on Lung, you focus on Bakuda." My duplicate laced this message with glee, which concerned me, but I nodded.

We flew in, and I hopped off, using Trauma to grapnel down towards a confused, ramping up Lung, who was covered in the remains of his two sidekicks. I engaged my HF capacitors and poured as much life fiber energy as I could into the kick. He had to die.

He looked up and glared at me just as my leg connected to his head.

It was turned to paste.

Classy Contortionist kept my body language from portraying the dread at what I had done, and my Military memories allowed me to realize this was a necessary action.

He began regenerating rapidly, and I sent "Your turn now!"

I practically teleported to Bakuda with the Life Fiber Energy in my body, and punched her right between the eyes. My fist went right through her head, and I scowled as I reminded myself that me letting them live would've hurt a lot more people.

I grabbed the mechanism of her deadman's switch that she had connected to her spinal cord. It wasn't hard to hack it and disarm all her armaments, now that I understood it perfectly through my Technokinesis.

The two ABB thugs had run away as soon as I had killed Lung, so my duplicate just webbed them.

I then heard a blood-curdling roar.

I turned back to find a 10ft Lung, murderous intent as bared as his roaring fangs as he glared at me.

"Buy me a minute!" My duplicate asked. I sighed and sent a confirmation back.

Lung ran at me, but I pushed him back and began to pummel him. I was only hitting metallic scales at this point, but I didn't mind.

He breathed fire at me, but I grabbed it like it was fabric, and backed up. I scrunched it up into a ball of bright blue-white fire and laced my hand in it as I punched Lung. His scales melted and his flesh flaked into ash, and he began to regenerate.

My duplicate sent me a message "Back Up!" right before his motoroid dropped and opened, and he jumped out with a large transmutation array being held between his hands.

I barely had time to react, but turned around and jumped away as he hit the ground and activated the array.

Alchemical Power ran along the Dragons Pulse and Lung was suddenly surrounded by an asphalt structure, three winding columns of compressed road, with curving branches made of various materials I recognized from the construction of the motoroid, which I now noticed was gone.

I then looked to the cape, who was confused and ramping down.

I recognized elements of the construction, I knew what this was. The Arcane Craft. The Dragons Pulse showed the power behind his rage being pulled out by the structure. The energy was sucked into the structure and sent upwards, following a mantic spiral.

Lung, who was not weak in his base form, ran forward, only to collide with the Mantic Field creating a prison around him.

My duplicate made a second change, and the branches multiplied and crossed over, changing the effect slightly.

Natural Energy was also drawn into this mantic spiral, only the cross-overs drew it back down. The area was essentially filled with an intensifying Natural Energy field.

My duplicate threw in a canister of sleeping gas, which was boosted by the natural energy, and Lung fell unconscious.

"I've noticed, our thinking patterns are kinda different, even if we're mostly similar."

"That's how you came up with this?"

"Yup."

"You had multiple canisters, the prison was nice, but why do the thing with natural energy?"

"1. We don't like to be wasteful."

"I'll give you that, but-"

"-2. We like to show off."

"I really don't."

"Really? Just accept it! It's so much easier to know!"

"I don't show off."

"Jesus you are dense. Is that why Aura is easier for us duplicates?"

"I don't like showing off! Can you just laser Lung to death already?"

"Alright Captain."

The duplicate's motoroid raised an arm, releasing a laser array. A red line blasted out and tilted, leaving but a red smear.

I then transmuted a large doorway under the motoroid. I inserted the key into the lock, and swung it inwards, tossing the remnants in.

I sealed the workshop, then began absconding away with my duplicate, bounding over the roofs of the city.

"Ok, but on showing off, Remember when we had Aisha over to help with Beria?"

"Ugh. Yes?"

"We started technobabbling about the material of the plating and the skeleton, and the adaption."

"She had to know the specs!"

"We didn't just tell her specs, we bragged about the Raginite Engine and the wind-Dust-precipitated Enhanced Mithril infused with high-grade Ceramite thermal resistance."

"So what!"

"ADMIT WE LIKE TO SHOW OFF!" the duplicate seemed annoyed "Look at the outfit you're wearing! You like it! Admit you're a Goth Showboater already!"

I sighed as I unlocked the warehouse through the ceiling access of some burnt apartment building and walked to the Alchemy Lab. "Goth maybe, but I don't like to show off that much."

The duplicate seemed to want to bash his head into a wall until he popped "I get you live forever and whatnot, but how can you just… live in denial like this?"

"I'm not in fucking denial." I insisted as I donned a divine invisibility cloak and began to leave. I felt the Forge move to the Size domain, and I grabbed a mid-sized mote, with two free ones following.

I wanted to laugh as the design principles entered my head. The power was called Miniaturization/Efficiency, and it provided the knowledge of design principles much more potent than those of Gadgeteer, but also fully compatible with other principles, being completely separate.

This was bullshit miniaturization, on the level of Armsmaster.

But that wasn't what made this power amazing, it was one of the free ones that came with it. It was called Out Of Context Problem. It made me immune to all precogs and thinkers but one. "Coil."

I'd have to look into him. Judging by my passenger's reaction to him, he wasn't much of a threat though.

That was just two of the powers I had just gotten. I heard a rumbling and looked over to the locker that had just appeared. A cache of tinkertech, specifically tinkertech, made with Miniaturization/Efficiency.

"We'll look at that later."

"How about I look at it, and you leave me and garment here, and walk home alone? I promise I won't upgrade anything without you here!"

"Alright." I left in my cloak, and sealed the workshop. I walked back to my apartment and entered. I opened the workshop to find the duplicate laughing his ass off.

"Hey- J- Fuchahahahahha! Ok! Sorry! You know how we were like 'This is some Armsmaster shit'?"

"Yes?"

The duplicate held up the items he was holding behind him.

He held up Armsmaster's Armor and Halberd. He then swung himself around to reveal Armsmaster's bike.

"You have to be kidding me…"

"Nope! Literally Armsmaster's power! And it gave us his gear as well!"

"…What else did the cache have?"

"Oh, a bunch of Armsmaster's other weapons, and a second copy of his armor."

"Great…" I then frowned "You were not laughing for the last ten minutes. What did you do before that?"

He held up his hands in surrender "I really didn't upgrade anything. I just decided to take my 20% time early, and Garment and I just made you a new wardrobe."

I groaned as a literal wardrobe manifested from my duplicates personal dimension. He swung it open and my voice died in my throat.

It was that same style, "Grown-up Hot Topic", Mature yet Sharp. Various shirts, pants, tank-tops, shorts, all in that same style. I had to admit that I loved it.

My duplicate smiled "I'm not asking you to die your hair black and get ear piercings, but just, be yourself a bit more. Embrace the brag!" he then manifested a jacket. A leather jacket in that same style, with a couple of tiny, dull iron spikes on the shoulders. He tossed it at me and I grabbed it, feeling its power. I knew that kind of power… "What's it Named?"

"Fae."

Fae. The word of Soul. I had a guess, but I asked anyway "What's it do?"

"Should help you with your Semblance, it's a development tool, kinda like Ren."
 
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Lung fight is already surpassing canon Endbringer fight. I wonder how many limiters Levi will release.

Sorry Eidolon, I must go all out just this once... forgive me

March would join with the 9 and make them each into Endbringer power too
 
March would join with the 9 and make them each into Endbringer power too
Full powered 9:
Shatterbird - Total Silicon Control: Wider range and no Manton limit so able to rip apart the silicon binding human bones.
Burnscar - Raging Inferno: Ash Beast level conflagration of pure fire instead of ash.
Siberian - Fractured Projection: Siberian remains even in the event of Manton's death.
Crawler - Unending Evolution: What kills anyone nearby makes Crawler stronger.
Mannequin - The Body is Weak: Able to remove 100% of human components allowing for the creation multiple copies of himself each with his specialization.
Cherish - Give up all Hope: Master ability strong enough that all unpowered humans instantly shuts down their own bodies in despair.
Bonesaw - Making Friends: Bio-tinkered creations split on their own spawning exponential copies of themselves.
Jack Slash - I Speak, You Obey: Can master shards into performing actions regardless of their hosts will.
 
Full powered 9:
Shatterbird - Total Silicon Control: Wider range and no Manton limit so able to rip apart the silicon binding human bones.
Burnscar - Raging Inferno: Ash Beast level conflagration of pure fire instead of ash.
Siberian - Fractured Projection: Siberian remains even in the event of Manton's death.
Crawler - Unending Evolution: What kills anyone nearby makes Crawler stronger.
Mannequin - The Body is Weak: Able to remove 100% of human components allowing for the creation multiple copies of himself each with his specialization.
Cherish - Give up all Hope: Master ability strong enough that all unpowered humans instantly shuts down their own bodies in despair.
Bonesaw - Making Friends: Bio-tinkered creations split on their own spawning exponential copies of themselves.
Jack Slash - I Speak, You Obey: Can master shards into performing actions regardless of their hosts will.
Wait until March joins the Endbringers :)
 
Sooo, we've been trying to calculate how much force Joe jumped with when he jumped on water.
It was like a bomb had gone off. The water launched itself away from my foot. I swear I could see the exposed seafloor in the aftermath of the impact. But just for an instant, then I was rocketing back into the air, directly at Lung.
Assuming he did see the seafloor, let's assume that the water is as deep as it is in Portsmouth Bay, which is around 10 meters. Assuming that the force distributed over the water spread like a hemisphere, Joe would be moving 2094.4 cubic meters of water, which would weigh around 2144660 kg. I'm not sure how quickly Joe displaced water though, considering that it seemed to move extremely quickly after Joe jumped, would it be fair to assume it moved around 1480 m/s (the speed of sound in water)?

With these assumed factors in mind, how many newtons, joules, and amount of TNT of force did Joe achieve in that jump?
 
Wait hold up, Lung isn't Dead??? After taking a FTL projectile center mass????
Seriously?
Is this a Simurgh plot, no named character can die during the ABB terror-strike?
Lung turns into an unstoppable biomonster, not becoming a dragon god who requires a sacred sword to defeat.

Doylist, Lung is gone. Lord said he isn't coming back.
Watsonian, No one knows for certain, they saw, possibly on video, Lung getting tossed just shy of orbit, and then blasted with something even more powerful, thankfully aimed in the direction 'away'
 
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hell, he had a full on magical girl transformation with transformation words an everything. but yeah, his original c53 form is now "confirmed" to be either a magical girl like cordman (actually rather similar to Sveta, but with a better (Aperion made) skinsuit. clearly has both blue and red threads) or a dinobeastman.

enough damage apparently disrupts his healing/cure and reverts his form to the original may tai dinotiger form

Cue Sveta trying to control her tentacles and make animal shapes out of them, hoping to cause a similar change in her own form.
 
What if in that Pivotal Moment, Joe unlocked his super-speed semblance?
Pretty enjoyable read.

I hope you don't mind, but I went through and did the same edit thing I do with the weekly chapters, so here it is.
capitalize Aura
I'm pretty sure this should be 'Oni Lees' since there are multiple of them
felt my aura flicker
capitalize Aura. As someone who writes RWBY, it's a pain.
'cameras' should not be capitalized.
grabbed the Nemean Cape
'cape' should not be capitalized, at least to keep in tradition with the rest of BCF.
And the fleet within the motoroid obeyed
I think you mean 'Fleet' as in the AI here, as I can't recall any 'fleet' within the motoroid.
The copy of Survey in the motoroid sent us a message "Scanners of the Main Motoroid were not damaged
needs a comma or period after 'message', and also 'main motoroid' should not be capitalized.
retrieve the main Motoroid now
same as above, lowercase 'motoroid'
capitalize 'Lung'
capitalize 'ABB'
"Buy me a minute!" my duplicate asked
now you see this is technically the correct right way of writing this, its just not the same way that Lord writes dialogue. If you want to maintain a bit more consistency, then you'd probably want to change this to a capitalized 'My'.
capitalize 'Lung'
Wind-dust-precipitated
reverse the capitalization here, 'wind Dust'. That said, I'm pretty sure both should be capitalized, but Lord's only been capitalizing Dust.
A Cache of tinkertech
lowercase 'cache', unless I'm missing something and it's the name of the perk.
Literally Armsmasters power! And it gave us his gear aswell!"
Armsmaster's - also, 'as well'
else did the Cache have?"
lowercase 'cache' again
bunch of Armsmasters weapons
Armsmaster's
 
Watsonian, No one knows for certain, they saw, possibly on video, Lung getting tossed just shy of orbit, and then blasted with something even more powerful, thankfully aimed in the direction 'away'
Honestly from an in-setting perspective, once the PRT or anyone else crunches numbers on the atmospheric impact of the bike Lung should be considered dead. Arguably declared dead, but even if he isn't everybody and their mother should be assuming he's dead.

He isn't a Breaker, so even if he turns out to be more stronk than any cape on record that's known to bleed, he would basically obey physics and be shoved offworld and then fly away forever. Combine that with his personality - he isn't the sort to lurk - and his known durability - he was taking a beating right up to the moment of the bike, and the bike was many orders of magnuitude beyond what should be lethal - the case should be pretty airtight, IMO.

Like, yeah.
 
Well, I'm a couple days late to comment, but I figured I might as well go over the couple things that I saw as issues. To preface this, the amount of resistance the ABB put up? Was not one of them. Shard's are already massively restricted, so granting their hosts more anything has a large margin of error. The same for what exactly they do, seeing as almost no power is exactly what it appears to be, and most employ multiple elements to keep them working much less on theme.

Joe's poor and not so poor decision making is also not one of the problems I saw. He didn't pick up any major personality shifter powers since he last fought the ABB until the last second of this chap, and so any little background manipulations should be effective even if their intended results were different. And the big two he did have? Sci-fi combat engineer and space robot scientist/doctor? Neither are particularly tailored to cape-combat, or the constant threat of complete OCP's from new capes or power combos (which is what the cycle is all about after-all). So Joe just standing and sniping, while letting his drones hover high-up? Not a good idea in hindsight, but one that certainly seemed even over-cautious to us readers. I'll also go ahead and assume that issues like Lung powering up before the fight were missed because Joe is still largely inexperienced and he had consciously decided to ignore the rest of the chaos and explosions in the city...like large and irregular thermal blooms.

Problem 1: Oni Lee. Not that Oni Lee was a threat, nor that his attack strategy was bad...more Joe's response. Even if a supercharged Oni-Lee didn't have to actually get into the line of fire for PD lasers, why not just gas the area once he knew he had a catch? It was no Lung, but it was clear Lung wasn't coming out at that point, and a single mess up with the rocket spam could possibly down Joe, and definitely kill everyone else in the area (at least some of which are innocent conscripts).

More problematic than that though, was the destruction of the Motoroid. The platform with omni-sensors, light-speed weapons (and mounts to make use of that speed as a PD array), and an AI housed in a super-computer to aim it. How did a clone just pop into existence next to it, and then last the whole .1-.25 seconds it took for Marche's glyph to detonate without getting blasted out of existence or pushed away (and thus dusting the explosive or getting out of it's fairly limited range)? Oni-Lee certainly couldn't just dog-pile it, he was targeting all the other drones simultaneously. The only thing I can think of is that A) the drones were holding still at a 'safe' altitude (which fits with Joe's arrogance and lack of knowledge at the time) for more accurate fire-support and B) the laser PD array is directional and would have taken some time to fully spin around (which is possible, but seems rather dumb when Joe built it for a teleporter that likes to surround his enemies).

Alright. Oni-Lee aside, let's get to Joe's decision making when he first counter-attacked, and a good bit of fighting Lung. The exsanguinating, mauled, surprised, mentally influenced (from Tetra + animal form), and pissed off (from what happened to Garment, and probably some from Chen before) new parahuman (it's been less then a month, much less in combat, and never while combat while injured) made some bad decisions. Maybe it was holding back on striking Marche, maybe it was not going to double-tap when the Gundam first showed up and he had a few seconds (y'know, ignoring trying to also keep control of Tetra, his transformation, and Dust).

Joe made at least a couple mistakes, but there were many very convincing reasons for his decision making to be debilitated, not even counting his green-ness, or a possible reluctance to kill Marche if he ID'd her as that kid he met (not sure if that was implied or not when she first showed up). And even with all that he still stayed focused on protecting the City from Lung (perhaps not making the best decisions about it like luring/grabbing him away, and then leaving with superior speed, but his decision making was compromised). No, what the characters actually did is not the problem here. How it got conveyed is.

I realize that writing a distracted, unstable, or otherwise incoherent mind-set is difficult to do while still being understandable, even more so when the pov isn't entirely first person. But there needs to be something beyond telling the readers that Joe was completely fucked up, as most of us skipped right by that. There needed to be a bit more show to go along with descriptions and statements. Even transformed, bloody, roaring Joe just seemed kinda...stated. Like Apeiron on patrol, or Joe tinkering. It's just there. I realize this isn't the clearest advice, and I'm lacking the jargon to convey precisely what I mean. But while there were plenty of direct and indirect statements about how Joe was not in any position to be thinking clearly (description of injuries, description of Tetra urges, pain, description of roaring, commenting that fighting Lung was a bad idea and then doing it anyway repeatedly, etc.)...the overwhelming majority of people commenting on how Joe shouldn't have acted the way that he did, or that there was plot armor being handed out shows that us readers either didn't catch the intended meaning, or we didn't believe it. And that's going to be problematic since one of the characters major elements is not being a perfectly composed or experienced cape, but rather a genius introvert that keeps wading deeper into the deep end once he figures how to stay afloat.


Now, onto the future and ignoring the ABB capes? Joe has four big priorities. One is his meeting with the therapist that probably knows his alter-ego, and hasn't been contacted even once while major things happened to that alter-ego.

One is dealing with Dragon (and her stalkers) once the immediate clean-up is underway, and be ABB dismantle.

One is the aforementioned cleanup as no small part of it is either Joe's fault or something only he and a few others can safely deal with (looking at exotic bombs and whatever combo explosives he didn't neutralize before breaking off from damage control). Of course, he'll also have to decide how mercenary he wants to be about it too (his heroic ideals make sure it'll happen, but he's invested in being neutral, and just acting gratis will blow that while trying to strong-arm the city could tank his reputation again).

And finally, Coil is still around in the background, and Joe still has had strong negative readings on the Undersider's boss. He's just been too distracted by immediate problems to bother. I'd put him as a toss up in priority with Dragon, possibly later if Coil keeps things cool and Dragon is aggressive in her...persuit...once the City is somewhat stabilized.

Of course, for reactions I'd love to see how much of the fight was actually captured, and what people think of his newly revealed abilities (very juicy wet-tinkering, nuclear-level energy attacks, and FTL kinetic strikes though that may take some time for Dragon to process and disseminate how far away and thus reduced the shockwaves of that final attack were). As well as the fact that popping his armor is possibly one of the worst things to do going by the Dust star.

Apeiron still technically isn't the most deadly tinker Bet has faced, that still belongs to plague makers or String Theory nearly blowing up Luna. But he is going to be the flashiest the public has seen. And he's not very far from the potential deadliest going by what the authorities may learn, though certainly not distribute (high altitude kinetic striking being comparable to nuclear ability, only Apeiron seems to keep advancing and making his tech with no effort).
 
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Doylist, Lung is gone. Lord said he isn't coming back.
Watsonian, No one knows for certain, they saw, possibly on video, Lung getting tossed just shy of orbit, and then blasted with something even more powerful, thankfully aimed in the direction 'away'
No spoilers please, Lord has explicitly stated for those that read his spoilers to not share it for those that choose not to read up on the ABB's fate. I was one of them so please don't do that, I don't want to get further spoiled.
 
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