Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

If you can't make your own willpower and support structures, store bought is fine.
In day to day life yes, for Spiral Power thought it's natural or bust.
Given the fact that life fibers didn't seem to believe in limits, it was anyone's guess where she would end up.
The entire anime industry: Are you implying that characters should have limits to their power scaling?!
On the Ragamuffin point; it sounds like he's part of the Nemesis programme which means fixing him leads to Cauldron. An interesting coincidence, no?
He can only fix their bodies, not restore their memories. (Or at least if he can restore their memories he isn't offering)
I vaguely remember the PHO account point of contact being public, why do none of the Case 53 have tried it?
His PHO was spammed so it's set to an auto-reply legal statement Survey set up.
 
I got to say now that they have their own food they can get from any time or what if earths this means they have solved world hunger they literally have solved it because you can get any food you want even those that exist in different earths you can also use this to bring back exctint animals back to the world
 
I got to say now that they have their own food they can get from any time or what if earths this means they have solved world hunger they literally have solved it because you can get any food you want even those that exist in different earths you can also use this to bring back exctint animals back to the world

World hunger has never been an insufficient supply issue. It's a logistics issue.

Real-life, humanity produces more than enough food for the entire human race. The problem is actually getting that food to those who need it, and preventing food waste. America alone wastes ~40% of the food it produces.

This perk is nice, but it doesn't solve world hunger by itself (unless you kidnapped everyone in the world and put them in Joe's workshop.) Besides, he already has a solution to world hunger. Joe has a perfect Food Supply for the world ever since he got Trek Replicators, which Matrix can just mass produce. With teleportation, Matrix could easily spread across the globe and construct food distribution centers for anyone who needs it.

The main issue, in BCF, is mostly a political one: being able to supply that food to the hungry world-wide without some government official getting pissy about it and declaring war.
 
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Would be kinda hilarious if Dad is the first one to immediately figure out he's Apeiron.

Just instant recognition, and and some confusion, followed by actual realization.
 
So, you might get lots of one type of tea. Or you might get a selection pack with 50 different types of tea. Or anywhere in between. It's largely random.
I would assume she can still specify green tea vs. black tea vs. some process in the middle. "Eight types" is vague as to how specific they are.

Real-life, humanity produces more than enough food for the entire human race. The problem is actually getting that food to those who need it, and preventing food waste. America alone wastes ~40% of the food it produces.
Food waste and overproduction happen for good reasons. Having some spare food that's expected to sit around until it rots means that people don't starve if a natural disaster destroys some food, and that people don't need to tolerate half-rotten or potentially contaminated food. Food waste isn't itself a good thing, and reducing it can save resources, but unlike the transportation problem and political obstructions, the food waste problem can be, and is, solved by just producing enough extra food to compensate.
 
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say guys won't Apeiron and his team go international after he goes all out to save the world from falling apart because most of the world has fallen to parahuman warlords or facism that takes control of their parahumans from getting power over their nations
 
The entirely of the shards of the capes with thinker/tinker in USA trying to shake the Ape of Steel in the direction they want. and nope. They can't face even his luck. His shadow alone appears in 5D+ do not help either :D

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All while beings made of powers that shards do not think exist are playing tag.

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those not deployed space whales in the multiverse probably are REALLY weird out by the amount of new data from the sheer lvl of (new) metaphysics^^.
 
hey guys did you know there is a very anime way of convincing the entities to not do what they are doing and actually make them change their ways.
Its to literally go philosophical and diplomatic (a very long speech with every detail and explanation to convince them kinda like Senator Armstrong from metal gear only this time it's true) on them the only problem is that you would have literally a whole senate day of trying to hammer your views in as they are very stubborn and stuck in their ways as they are in mind alien and need to be proven that this can be a great alternative
 
Food waste and overproduction happen for good reasons. Having some spare food that's expected to sit around until it rots means that people don't starve if a natural disaster destroys some food, and that people don't need to tolerate half-rotten or potentially contaminated food. Food waste isn't itself a good thing, and reducing it can save resources, but unlike the transportation problem and political obstructions, the food waste problem can be, and is, solved by just producing enough extra food to compensate.

Having enough food to prevent famine due to crises is important, no doubt, but the staggering amount of food waste we do have is still a problem. Food destroyed by disasters is less than an order of magnitude of the food we waste as a species just from bad logistics, not to mention the cases where local governments actively confiscate and destroy food meant for the homeless.

Producing more food can definitely help mitigate starvation, but it's not solving the core logistical issues of making sure the surplus goes to where it's needed.

Moving back to BCF specifically, Joe actually should have multiple methods of storing edible food indefinitely, outside of just producing it on demand with replicators. Trek does have Stasis Units used as household appliances to keep food fresh indefinitely, so that's something Joe could probably build if people wanted to stockpile food.
 
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A wors person, who gets worse every time
worse
"I know it was probably a lot of work helping with the event, but things have to be easier for you know. Or are you caught up in something else?" She asked, with the implication that I was either being taken advantage of or intruding into a situation where I wasn't welcome.
for you now?
She was still adjusting to the cape, but honestly lived the impact it had.
loved
than
I was admirable, particularly with how much she had accomplished.
It was?
Lily nodded. "And that's a weird thought. I mean, I had to deal with her for so long, but that was like another person compared to what we saw here. Now is gone, but I keep expecting her to be waiting for me with another team of teenage vandals when I get back to New York."
Now it's gone?
 
Joe had the stealth field so they won't know they had a chance especially since they stopped following once they got away from the alleys.
Ah yeah, they didn't follow them. I forgot. Anyway! Do you think there will be an escalation in trying to force the issue if its gets out that Apeiron approached Weld & Flechette? That former hero guy might feel that they 'missed' their chance to due being too polite.
 
Ah yeah, they didn't follow them. I forgot. Anyway! Do you think there will be an escalation in trying to force the issue if its gets out that Apeiron approached Weld & Flechette? That former hero guy might feel that they 'missed' their chance to due being too polite.

I think like the hostages thing it doesn't overly matter because the nine are due tomorrow morning in story and that'll probably get the Butcher to step her her and March's plan which from how lord does things will probably succeed when it shouldn't, set off Echidna rampaging and worst of all possibly have their crazy dumb idea that should never work actually work and buff them.
 
Three thoughts:
-how are the worlds labeled in the food service power? I would assume by IRL franchise, but that should be a pretty big clue in and of itself...

- Joe's father is going to be surprised by his son's all-new physique and personality! :V

- Moreover, I wonder if Tetra will make a connection here (with the dad, obviously) and get a front view of his family's dirty side... I think it'd be nice to have an objective (at least objective for Tetra) Point of View about that clusterfuck.
 
Unfortunately, 'Psychic ghost girl from another universe' didn't even crack the top five when it came to the weirdness of my team.
Well, Alma might be an intrusive presence, but at least it felt like we were making progress. The other psychic ghost girl was another story. An alert that the Workshop was ready for our arrival allowed me to check in on that matter.
Yeah, when there's literally two psych ghost girls it's hard to get two even top five on the weirdness scale. Preservation of ghost girlness, the more ghost girls there are the less weird they are.
"It wasn't Uppercrust." I said. "It was his head of media relations. He checked the setup work I did to make sure everything was ready for when Uppercrust got there. He said to contact him if I was interested in contract work." I explained. "It's not even going to be full time. And besides, it's the Elite."
The idea of Joe being his own bosses boss is kind of fun to think about.
This was a risk, but it was a calculated risk.
Luckily Joe is incredibly good at math.
Apeiron, who was being completely ignored by the rest of the pedestrians on the Boardwalk.
The PRT really shouldn't be alarmed by this, it really doesn't make Apeiron scarier. You already couldn't stop him or track where he's going to show up. What does it matter that he's a high tier stranger as well? They are going to freak out though.
And so were they. Looking around, she could recognize it.
This part will make it much worse. He can apply it to others without them noticing.
Someone on AO3 mentioned how Addictol might be able to help zizbombs.

I'm curious if they could help with more normal human master victims, specifically the types like Heartbreaker or Valefor.
I remember this fic where the cure for ziz bombs was a small amount of lsd. It happened to reset the brain in just the right way.
I wonder whether Joe will use that thing in the construction of a Super Weapon.
First instrument of a famous musician does sound like the kind of thing you would need for that perk.
On the Ragamuffin point; it sounds like he's part of the Nemesis programme which means fixing him leads to Cauldron. An interesting coincidence, no?
Another on the long series of: Cauldron, why?
More than just lore since they can get stuff like Tales gels (the hp and TP restoring items), Harry Potter stuff like firewhiskey, every flavour beans, chocolate frogs and Fred and George's magical sweets, pjo ambrosia and nectar and that's before you even consider what stuff like Overlord might have.
From what I remember of the Tales series there are a lot of herbs that can permanently boost your stats. Also all the healing items and just weird food you can find in various series Joe has connected to.
Eh the stuff with Lily's last relationship is canon tho I don't think it's actually said what the girl's name was or that she was a ward. That relationship going as it did was actually why she committed to going full doormat for her next one which let 17 her date 21+ Parian who would only agree if she had absolute full 100 % control over each and every decision.
That relationship was so healthy. There's no reason it would end horribly. No reason at all.
Heh. You know what would make an amazing plot twist? JoeDad reveals he figured out that Joe is Apeiron. How? He used to collect Superman comics before pyjama humans killed the industry and knows how to see what someone looks like without their glasses. Oh and that he's proud of the kid for finally getting around to living his best life.
Hyper competent but depressed dad go!
He can only fix their bodies, not restore their memories. (Or at least if he can restore their memories he isn't offering)
Nemesis programming gets inserted after the mind wipe or how would it even work? If Joe spots the effective Mastering and investigates, he'll find clues that should eventually link C53s and Cauldron.
Yeah as Mr_Rose said he should be able to detect the mastering if he really looks. I can definitely see him regularly checking their minds just to be sure he can't do anything about the memories. Then, boom. Master effects galore.
 
Wonder how Joe's gonna handle the family meeting whenever it happens (2027 is my prediction :p). He's been significantly changed and surely his father would notice. Then again, Joe has a bazillion ways to obfuscate his appearance to more closely mimic how he used to look.

I know it might never happen, or only happen near the end of this story, but I really want to see Joe's family learn that "Doormat Joe" almost overnight became "Apeiron, the Enigmatic Artificer." More than just the reactions though, I'd like to see how they come to terms with it. Then again, from what we've seen of his family interactions, I could make a decent guess. First the shock and disbelief, and probably some variable amount of denial. And fear. Can't forget the fear. The fear part of the revelation might never fade. Whenever they roll into the acceptance stage, that's when the entitlement will rear its ugly head (again, to varying degrees based on a given family member). Though maybe "entitlement" would be a bit harsh, but I'd definitely see some eventual "requests" (likely phrased more like demands given their past experiences with Joe) for one thing or another.

It's actually kind of a fascinating scenario to consider. What will the family dynamics look like when the most mild-mannered member leaves for a few months and comes back as a god? Hell, imagine living in an even more mild and mundane setting like our world, except your kid brother got kicked out of college, nearly ended up homeless, then inexplicably became the God-Emperor of Mankind (times 1000, sans the actual position) while nobody was looking.
 
Probably but the choice is up to them so she wanted the authentic stuff and it's harmless anyway since they get another with a week passing in the workshop and it goes by 10x as fast with Joe out of it so they'll have another choice soon enough.
Yeah but she got it from a place on Earth Bet; Joe could have gotten it via portals. He could have gotten it via intra-arterial portals and healed the animals he was getting it out of faster then they were bleeding out.
I remember this fic where the cure for ziz bombs was a small amount of lsd. It happened to reset the brain in just the right way.
The nature of Ziz Bombing, that being messing with memory-association mechanisms to cause links between past memories and future memories to trigger behaviors and actions that Golden BB society, means that you'd pretty much have to make a person into a completely different person that thought that they were the original person in order to undo it; you'd have to strip out pretty much all memory-association, which I believe includes the emotional context of memories, and replace it with a random or homogeneous one. Basically reincarnation is what it would be.

This being said though it could be argued that Ziz Bombing already does that so ethically I think that it's reasonably clean.
So are nectar and ambrosia on the table for groceries?
Which one?
-how are the worlds labeled in the food service power? I would assume by IRL franchise, but that should be a pretty big clue in and of itself...
Apparently by local name rather than by title or franchise:
By the Perks that he got from each location maybe?
 
The nature of Ziz Bombing, that being messing with memory-association mechanisms to cause links between past memories and future memories to trigger behaviors and actions that Golden BB society, means that you'd pretty much have to make a person into a completely different person that thought that they were the original person in order to undo it; you'd have to strip out pretty much all memory-association, which I believe includes the emotional context of memories, and replace it with a random or homogeneous one. Basically reincarnation is what it would be.

This being said though it could be argued that Ziz Bombing already does that so ethically I think that it's reasonably clean.

Wildbow does mention in the Justice League VS Endbringers WoG that Martian Manhunter could probably undo Ziz Bombs, so telepathy can help undo what she does.

That just means Joe needs to stretch that psychic brain of his and work on his telepathy in order to cure Ziz Bombs. And, given his magitech perks, he can probably just make a Ziz Bomb-begone machine and call it a day.
 
Wildbow does mention in the Justice League VS Endbringers WoG that Martian Manhunter could probably undo Ziz Bombs, so telepathy can help undo what she does.

That just means Joe needs to stretch that psychic brain of his and work on his telepathy in order to cure Ziz Bombs. And, given his magitech perks, he can probably just make a Ziz Bomb-begone machine and call it a day.
Super scientific hangover cure.
 
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