Thanks for the PHO omakes. Always great to see these come together.
I remembered someone had asked about canon PHO omakes. While many of these have been phenomenal, there is usually at least a couple of points that jump out as not quite fitting into the story. The creativity on display is great to see, so I never want to go in policing details on works people have devoted themselves to. However, there is one PHO topic that I'd like to suggest that I am prepared to canonize.
Through the story there have been numerous references to the series Avalon: Web of Magic as a replacement for the Nasuverse (which would not exist on Earth Bet due to the collapse of Japan). The rough idea was that the series Princess Gwenevere and the Jewel Riders was much bigger on Earth Bet, leading to its sequel series Avalon: Web of Magic becoming a long-running animated series rather than a series of young adult novels. The project was handed to Kinoko Nasu who basically turned it into Fate with the serial numbers filed off. The production team included a lot of Japanese animators who had immigrated to America. They were throwing everything they had at the project to try to make a name for themselves, leading to a high quality and massively popular series.
The idea for the PHO thread is that, after learning the origin of Joe's powers, Survey post a question on the PHO media section asking about the magic system of Avalon: Web of Magic, since it's is about as difficult to understand as Fate's is. Her intention is to learn more about Joe's abilities, but the thread quickly devolves into the kind of discussion you would find on any Fate board.
Basically, what I'm proposing is a reader-driven project to plot out the details of this story's version of Fate, which I'm prepared to treat as canon within the context of this fic. I think the medium of a forum argument would be a fun way of filling out those details.
The only thing I ask is that the suggested details fall in line with what had already been established in the story, and that they be reasonable for the work in question. The series would have run on cable on Saturday nights, so would have been less restricted than a lot of other children's shows. It would have been known for pushing the boundaries of Standards and Practices on occasions, but everything would still have needed to be fit for US broadcast.
The broad summary of the details of the show, as established so far in the story and WoG posts:
The series followed from Princess Gwenevere and the Jewel Riders with Kinoko Nasu making several massive retcons:
-All the magic jewels in the original series (including the Sun Stone, the Heart Stone, and the Moon Stone) trace their origin to Kischur Zelretch.
-Princess Gwenevere was revealed to be a True Ancestor (His way of backdooring in a version of Arcueid Brunestud)
-Tamara was actually a homunculus
-Fallon (Aisha's favorite character) was killed by an Irish Lancer and later became a counter-guradian before being summoned as a servant
The characters from Web of Magic (Emily Fletcher, Adriane Charday, and Kara Davies) were used as stand-ins for Fate characters Nasu had already planned out (Rin Tohsaka, Sakura Matou, Illyasviel von Einzbern).
Shirou Emiya's character still existed relatively intact in personality and abilities, but with the name changed to Shawn Emiya (Causing Nasu to die a little inside). You also had an Archer equivalent.
Artoria was included with largely the same abilities, origin, and characterization.
Gilgamesh was also present as an antagonist in the series.
The Grail war existed as a major plot in the series, though Masters were referred to as Summoners and Servants were called Heroic Spirits.
Servants still had skills and abilities with letter ranks.
At least one film for Web of Magic: Apocrypha was released.
Web of Magic: Extra existed as a gacha mobile game with different plots (conflicting) depending on the region it was released in.
I'm not sure if PHO Blacksmithery is the best place for an idea like this, or if it's better to start it in a new thread. Mostly I'm suggesting it as a fun side project for anyone interested in filling the absurdities of Earth Bet's version of the Nasuverse through the context of a forum argument (I feel like I should make some comment about this being the natural habitat of Fate discussions) with one of Survey's alternate PHO handles as the original poster desperately trying to get the discussion back on the original topic of the magic system. Probably the best thing is that with all the alternate versions, side media, video games, and regional differences, basically anything suggested can be considered canon somewhere in the lore. Even so, if consistent plot and character elements do come out of this, I'd be happy to canonize them and even include some of them in the story.
Especially when they are surrounded by calm and rational people like Trickster.
