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BAD END QUEST (Fate universe)

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[X] Take a third option. (Write in)
-[X] Request to have your consultant Capitalist weigh in on this. No one knows how to make a deal better than him.

He'll make the best deal ever! We'll have so many concessions, we'll get tired of not getting screwed over!
 
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    • [X] Take a third option. (Write in)
    -[X] Request to have your consultant Capitalist weigh in on this. No one knows how to make a deal better than him.

    "Um...how long do I have to decide?" you ask hesitantly. "I've got a really good deal maker that I'd like to consult about this. Just to make sure that I'm getting everything right, not missing any fine print, you know. Stuff like that."

    The woman in white smiles and tilts her head. "Take all the time you need, dear Nora! Every time you go to sleep for the rest of the war, I'll be there, in case you're ready to make a decision." She fades away slowly into the ether, until--

    --you snap awake, gasping for breath. Capitalist is bending over you, concerned.

    "My dear Master, are you quite alright?" he asks, offering you a cup of water. You gratefully accept it, taking a careful sip.

    "Had a weird dream where a woman in white tried to persuade me to destroy my Origin to save the world, and become the avatar of all the world's evils in exchange," you explain. "Sound good to you?"

    Capitalist frowns. "If the person you're discussing this with is an honest broker, you'd likely choose to reign in hell rather than live in heaven. Sounds like a piece of literature I remember, though unfortunately I can't remember its name."

    "Do you think that's a good decision, though?" you press. "The voice told me that if I declined, I would bring endless suffering to my friends and those I love. Is that worth...whatever?"

    Capitalist shakes his head. "My sole advice to you, Master...never accept a trade when you have incomplete information. The free market is mutually beneficial, but only if both sides know they aren't being cheated."

    [ ] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.

    [ ] Read up on it yourself.

    [ ] Go back to your nap.

    [ ] Check the time.

    [ ] Write in
     
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    • [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] Remind him to make you read up on it yourself.
     
    [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.
     
    [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.

    Training Nora in the fine art of the deal can only lead to amazing events/Bad Ends down the line. Let's do it.
     
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.

    This is after all why we chose to not stop being the end of everything we ever care about (yet).
     
    [x] Check the time.
    [x] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[x] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.
     
    [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.
     
    [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.

    yes
    nothing can go wrong from this
     
    [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.

    Gotta plan for after the war. Take over the world through business. :V
     
    [X] Check the time.
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[X] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable than you anticipated it being.
     
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    • [x] Check the time.
    [x] Ask Capitalist more about this 'free market' thing.
    -[x] He's the father of one of the greatest types of economy in the world. Why not ask him for lessons in your mutual free time? Being a good businesswoman seems to be wildly more applicable then you anticipated.

    "Speaking of which...what does go into making a free market succeed?" you ask.

    "This is an...odd choice of question for you," Capitalist says, scratching his chin.

    "Well, I just figured I've got the most legendary economist of all time standing next to me, and while I'm here I might as well get some free tutoring," you explain. "After all, I'm gonna have a life after the Holy Grail War, and I'll need money for that, right?"

    "You are absolutely correct," Capitalist says, giving you a warm smile. "As economics was the passion of my life, I'm happy to pass on my knowledge in a rather more direct manner then others. So, firstly, the central principle of a free market is that all trades between individuals are mutually beneficial, else the disadvantaged party would refuse. For example, if you were to purchase a cake from a bakery, you would give the bakery money in exchange for his cake. Both sides benefit, because the cake produces more value for you than the money does, while the baker has plenty of cakes and would rather have your money then the cake."

    "Seems simple enough," you say. "I assume that before money existed, such trades were more difficult."

    Capitalist shakes his head. "Yes and no," he explains. "You would simply trade something you had in abundance for something the other person had but you did not, and if the other person had a need for your good, he would agree."

    "So how does money work into this? Why can't I walk into a store and trade them my set of paints for a cake?"

    "Money was created to serve as a universal tool of exchange," Capitalist responds. "In my day, most money were small slips of paper that represented a fixed amount of gold or silver stored in a vault somewhere. Since everyone agreed that the money had value, it becamse more convenient to exchange money than to exchange goods. Nowadays, however, it sems that money is backed more by faith in the currency itself. If everyone in the world woke up in the morning and decided that the dollar or yen was worthless and had no value, it would cease to have value."

    "Hmm..." you said, considering Capitalist's words as you glance at a nearby clock. It reads 10:50 AM, reminding you that your meeting with Bazett was at noon.

    [ ] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[ ] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[ ] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[ ] What does the average worker have to sell?
    -[ ] Write in

    [ ] Go look around the library for reading materials on this topic.

    [ ] Go to your meeting site with Bazett early.

    [ ] Write in
     
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    • [X] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[X] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
     
    [x] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[x] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[x] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[x] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[x] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.
     
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    [X] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[X] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[X] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[X] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[X] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.

    Eh, I think we should ask as much as possible but be sure not to arrive too late, hence the write-in.
     
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    --[X] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, interrupt him and tell him you'll continue later.
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    --[] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.

    Behold, the power of not looking weird when talking to people who aren't there. Much better than cutting this short.
     
    [X] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[X] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[X] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[X] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[X] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, interrupt him and tell him you'll continue later.
     
    [x] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[x] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[x] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[x] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[x] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.
     
    [x] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[x] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[x] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[x] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[x] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.

    We're now learning about money. Wonder how this'll kill us.
     
    [x] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[x] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[x] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[x] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[x] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.
     
    Economics Lessons, Cont. | Pick Your Poison 0
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    • This quest has been a little too easy of late, so I'm going to make a mechanics change to make things a little bit tougher. More at the end of the update.

    [x] Ask Capitalist more about the free market.
    -[x] What happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?
    -[x] In your home country, the government has a moderate level of involvement in the economy. What does Capitalist think of that?
    -[x] What does the average worker have to sell?
    --[x] Make sure you arrive on time for the meeting. You don't want Bazett to get angry at you. If Capitalist's explanations take too long, then just talk while you walk, with your cell phone up to your ear if you're too tired to manifest him.

    "But what happens if someone lies about the quality of their goods?" you ask. "Say I bought the cake under the assumption that it was a fully-cooked cake, only to later acquire food poisoning from consuming it? What recourse do I have in a truly free market?"

    "For one, the bakery has an incentive to provide you with good products; otherwise, you will not shop there again, and likely advise your friends to do the same," Capitalist says. "But more to the point, such a deception would be negligence or fraud on the baker's part, and you could win compensation in the courts if you could prove you were harmed."

    "So you do think the government has a role to play?" Capitalist tilts his head. "I mean, if the government is interceding like it does in my home country of Germany, is the market still really free?"

    Capitalist frowns at you. "Many of my contemporaries misrepresent my views as thinking that the government has no role to play in an economy, but that is far from the truth. I believe the government is essential to ensuring a level, fair market, as well as serving as a neutral third party to enforce agreements and contracts and protect the citizenry. Now, that being said, I suppose I am not a great fan of the modern welfare state, nor do I believe that today's massive government deficits are healthy. But saying that there should be no government at all is simply mad."

    You think about Capitalist's words for a moment. Capitalist frowns. "Is there anything else, young lady? If not, it may be advisable for us to proceed to our meeting with our colleagues."

    "One more question," you say. "What does a worker have to offer in a free market? It seems that an ordinary laborer, without the funds to secure justice for themselves in the courts, is at the mercy of those they work for."

    "A worker's product is their labor, which they exchange for goods and services. As part of the conditions under which they exchange their labor, they may demand whatever salary the employers are willing to pay, as well as benefits; there should be no problem if groups of workers decide to bargain collectively, either, but neither should their collective bargaining be enshrined by the government, as seen in America."

    "Why not?" you ask. "From what I've heard, employers often treated unionizing workers brutally--"

    "Which is a violation of those workers' rights, if they were subject to intimidation or thuggish assaults. But just as an employer should be able to make a contract with a worker so long as both of them agree, so too should an employer be able to fire a worker or workers, so long as the contract between them permits it."

    "You really like your contracts, huh," you sigh.

    "I suppose I do."

    "Well," you say. "We might as well get going, for now. But feel free to keep talking to me if you wish. I want to better understand how you think, so that we can work together more effectively."

    "Done," Capitalist promises, before vanishing into spirit form.

    -----

    A few minutes later, you begin to approach the ramen shop near the bridge, when you stop short. You can feel the unmistakable iron-like scent of Prana tickling your nose, and the simultaneous swelling of your Origin, as it begs to scatter the Prana into nothingness.

    Far in front of you, you can see Bazett sitting at the table, talking to a couple-a black-haired Japanese man in a black suit, and--

    Is that...

    The white haired woman from your dream sits at the table across from Bazett, cheerily sipping what looks like a cup of tea. She either doesn't notice or approves of the black pistol the man is holding on Bazett under the table.

    [PICK YOUR POISON-0]​
    Hello! This is your helpful BFF Grail, here to explain the stupid screwover of a new feature the QM just added! But you can call me Grail-Kun!

    Since this quest has been getting really easy recently, and the QM is having a hard time coming up with ways to kill you, he's introducing a new halfway point called 'Pick Your Poison'! In a Pick Your Poison update, you are guaranteed to survive, no matter what option you choose.     [40%]

    You might ask, "Grail-kun! Grail-kun! What's the catch! That seems like it would make this quest a lot easier!"

    Well, poor underinformed player, in a Pick Your Poision update, every available choice will lead to a permanent penalty of some sort applied to you or one of your allies! This could be anywhere from going blind in one eye, to being permanently unable to use magic, to even losing your Servant or your Command Seals! Moreover, each time you reach a Pick Your Poison update, you can no longer reset to before that point! In other words, once you make a decision in a PYP, you're stuck with it forever!

    No, no, don't shy away from me! And keep those screams internal! We wouldn't want to frighten the man with the gun, would we?

    Alright, alright, I get it! Now you really want to avoid Pick Your Poison updates however possible! Well, that's fairly simple! In many updates from now on, you'll see some of the options have a number in curly brackets next to them, like this:     {10}. Selecting that option would give you 10 Pick Your Poison points, and Pick Your Poison updates will be automatically triggered as you reach fixed numbers of points! So if you want to keep risking death every update, you can! Just don't vote for stuff with curly brackets!

    [ ] Pretend you didn't notice the gun, walk up to the table, and introduce yourself. Ask how Bazett is doing.

    [ ] Don't walk into the situation. Turn around and head the other way as fast as you can. {10}

    [ ] Send Capitalist to investigate. {10}

    Current PYP points: 0
    (Next PYP at: 50 points)
     
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