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Attempting to Subvert the Plan: Dominion Edition

Retcon: Should General Horner (the MC) have been The Magistrate (Starcraft 1 PC)?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 43.8%

  • No

    Votes: 29 36.3%

  • This does not matter to me

    Votes: 16 20.0%
  • Total voters
    80
  • Poll closed .
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Really liking this quest, just caught up in the last week.

The school choice though seems to embed a bunch of specific modern-day assumptions. Like, why is it all about getting diplomas and certifications? If you really think about it, why would they help us?
We're chancellor of the Dominion, who do we need to impress?

If we need to actually learn something, then we should not sit in classes - we should get elite expert tutoring by the best teachers available. That's what rich and powerful people do in real life when they want to learn additional skills later in life and don't need to impress anyone anymore. Getting a diploma at this point is all about stroking your ego.

It makes sense to continue to learn more, but not by aiming for degrees - we're way past that.
 
So I just had a thought - would our deal with Starke give us only 5 Paranoia instead of 10 if we choose the going to college option, which I hope we do.
 
Darik29 said:
So are we keeping a powerbase on Vardona, or moving everything to Korhal and leaving effectively nothing behind bar that one unfinished TRUST site ALPHA? Which looks like we didn't even put any dice on this turn.

Geeze we really are just giving up our own power base outside of Korhal huh?
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The strident tone kind of gives the sense of ignoring the reasons already discussed for doing this. Perhaps I misunderstand, but you seem to be implying "how could everyone be such a mindless fool as to do this?"

Since I've already posted at length about the reasons, I'm not going to repeat myself here.

MageControl said:
I think we need to go to high school and split our position between Korhal and Vardonna. This will allow us to continue to build Vardonna up and have our foot in the door.
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What are the specific benefits of building Vardona up as a power base, and under what circumstances do you foresee them being useful?

MageControl said:
I am willing to agree for us to go to college as well but we don't know how many turns it will take to finish .
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Statistically, "College" will take about four in-game years (sixteen turns) for the bonus to climb from +1 to +5.

Asmodemus said:
Mmm, mechanically, I like good enough, free set to fifty.. unless it also adjusts anything that's over 50 if the lowest is higher. In which case it may be a rare detriment.
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It is vanishingly unlikely, billions to one against, that we will ever have a turn where every die we roll is above 50.

Gworn said:
The school choice though seems to embed a bunch of specific modern-day assumptions. Like, why is it all about getting diplomas and certifications? If you really think about it, why would they help us?
We're chancellor of the Dominion, who do we need to impress?

If we need to actually learn something, then we should not sit in classes - we should get elite expert tutoring by the best teachers available. That's what rich and powerful people do in real life when they want to learn additional skills later in life and don't need to impress anyone anymore. Getting a diploma at this point is all about stroking your ego.

It makes sense to continue to learn more, but not by aiming for degrees - we're way past that.
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The Finish High School option clearly is about Chuck Horner stroking his own ego. Note that the attached trait doesn't involve him gaining any special expertise. Depending on your interpretation, it's about him either being willing to shrug and say "good enough" or him being able to take a situation that isn't quite good enough and make it be good enough by expending that extra bit of effort because dammit he wants that thing to work. Either of which is appropriate to the action of him basically getting his GED for personal reasons.

The Work Towards Technical Certification trait makes no direct reference to him obtaining diplomas. "Certification" could imply diplomas or whatever, yes, but look at the meat of the action: "By pursuing a limited curriculum of advanced study, you can bolster your knowledge in areas that you and your advisors are currently lacking." This sounds like he'd be doing more or less what you describe: getting expert tutoring in specific areas.

Go to College is also explicitly about Horner wanting to stroke his ego, as demonstrated by the part where "That'll show everyone." is explicitly in the vote text.
 
Just count the benefits in cubes.

School - hard to say, but I think about 30-40 progress points per turn.

Engineer - 15 dice in his areas - 45 points and more to come.

Bachelor - we have 47 dice, so 47, with a chance to double the bonus about once a year.

I'd prefer a bachelor's lol.

[X] [SCHOOL] Go to college
[X] [CAPITAL] Move everything to Korhal
 
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[X] [SCHOOL] Go to college
[X] [CAPITAL] Move everything to Korhal
 
[X] [SCHOOL] Go to college

[X] [CAPITAL] Retain your base of power on Vardona

I like to go all-out, balls to the wall, no holds barred fully committed whenever I can. :V
 
Simon_Jester said:
The trouble is, the latter approach seems much less likely to succeed than the former, especially if you count "Mengsk overthrown in bloody civil war, which causes so much damage that the Dominion is conquered or eaten by outside enemies" as a failure.

Personally, I'm planning around setting ourselves up for a surgical strike to install Valerian, simply because I expect it to be the easiest path to success.
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Unfortunately, given Mengsk's paranoia, the odds of us being able to avoid civil war is practically nil. We'd need enough clout to eliminate Mengsk and put his son, a guy almost nobody has even heard of, on the throne without anyone deciding to object violently. Given that pretty much sounds like a coup with a paper-thin justification, I don't think we'll manage it, so we need bases of power.

That being said, I don't think it's particularly worth it to split. The suspicion gain is too much for me, and we've got TRUST actions to secure Vardona.
 
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