Okay I'm putting this in the weird history section because it is extremely implausible to the...
ASB Maoist India 2015
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Okay I'm putting this in the weird history section because it is extremely implausible to the point of being impossible.
What if an ASB assisted directly or indirectly, led to the Naxalite movement overthrowing the government of India and turning India Maoist.
What would the broader geopolitical and diplomatic consequences of this be?
What if an ASB assisted directly or indirectly, led to the Naxalite movement overthrowing the government of India and turning India Maoist.
What would the broader geopolitical and diplomatic consequences of this be?
What do you mean by Maoist?
An Indian style Great Leap Forward could potentially see tens? of millions of dead and hundreds of millions displaced making the Syrian thing seem like a sweet weekend stroll in comparison.
So Maoist can mean very many things either very bad or less so. What are the goals? What are the policies implemented? How are they implemented? Will ASB help include immunity to starvation and a grace period for the selected policies to work>? And so very many other questions such a scenario brings.
An Indian style Great Leap Forward could potentially see tens? of millions of dead and hundreds of millions displaced making the Syrian thing seem like a sweet weekend stroll in comparison.
So Maoist can mean very many things either very bad or less so. What are the goals? What are the policies implemented? How are they implemented? Will ASB help include immunity to starvation and a grace period for the selected policies to work>? And so very many other questions such a scenario brings.
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My idea is that an ASB assists the Naxalite movement in the 2000s-causing the Indian government to respond in effectively and badly, and for the Maoists to have near unimpeded success so much so their strategy of protracted people's war succeeds by 2015 with the fall of the Indian major cities and the collapse of the Indian government-with a state of civil war existing since 2010.
This leads to india's middle and upper class fleeing to Europe and America, and a change to a centralized economy. This leads to a re-ordering of Asian and perhaps even Eurasian geopolitics.
That was just my general idea anyway.
This leads to india's middle and upper class fleeing to Europe and America, and a change to a centralized economy. This leads to a re-ordering of Asian and perhaps even Eurasian geopolitics.
That was just my general idea anyway.
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They'd be alienated almost entirely although no direct military action would occur because they have nukes. They might be able to have a common understanding with North Korea but beyond that they're basically shit out of luck.
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By the numbers, the Naxalites never had a chance, and a lot would've needed to change to make that any different. If ASB wants them to make a Maoist India, he pretty much needs to start by ISOTing the movement back to the point where they get to beat up a less-advanced society... the British Empire, perhaps.
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The ASB increases their support-and causes say 60% of the Indian population to support them. It also gives them better weapons, prevents them from making strategic mistakes, and causes the Indian government to act and react in the most stupid backfirey ways possible and thus Maoist victory.
RyRy
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This would be the only socialist state in the world atm. Once the country is relatively stable and such they would immediately begin funding the New People's Army in the Philippines, and probably other progressive forces around the world. A transition to socialism would occur, while the caste system is formally abolished irl it still does oppress people, this would be ended in the new republic.
I am not sure if the Naxalites see India as semi-feudal and therefore promote New Democracy (the Maoist idea that in semi-feudal nations a coalition led by the proletariat would be ruling the state, basically what the PRC was until the late 50s). If they do promote New Democracy the country will probably be called the People's Republic of ______.
I am also not sure if the Naxalites promote a union of sovereign republics like the USSR, but I imagine they do as there are multiple nations within India.
As the nation would no longer be capitalist it would be able to invest domestically rather well, meaning that, while of course initial years would be tough (especially if there is an embargo or something like that) I imagine the country would be able to do rather well in the years after.
This would likely be a sort of parallel to the last century where a revolution in one large oppressive country began a wave of new ones.
I am not sure if the Naxalites see India as semi-feudal and therefore promote New Democracy (the Maoist idea that in semi-feudal nations a coalition led by the proletariat would be ruling the state, basically what the PRC was until the late 50s). If they do promote New Democracy the country will probably be called the People's Republic of ______.
I am also not sure if the Naxalites promote a union of sovereign republics like the USSR, but I imagine they do as there are multiple nations within India.
As the nation would no longer be capitalist it would be able to invest domestically rather well, meaning that, while of course initial years would be tough (especially if there is an embargo or something like that) I imagine the country would be able to do rather well in the years after.
This would likely be a sort of parallel to the last century where a revolution in one large oppressive country began a wave of new ones.
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Might that mean the revolution spreads to Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Burma, and perhaps Indonesia?
How would the Chinese, Iranians, Saudis, Russians, and the western powers react?
What they could feasibly do?
How would the Chinese, Iranians, Saudis, Russians, and the western powers react?
What they could feasibly do?
RyRy
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It might, but at the moment there is not much of a movement in any of those countries, except Nepal (which recently had it's communist party succumb to parliamentarism, and the Indians in this scenario would hopefully, them being revolutionaries, support the Nepalese revolutionaries who feel betrayed by the party's end of the people's war).
The main imperialists in the world, US, Russia, China, would obviously hate it. This is not a revolution that can easily be coopted by capitalism, like Cuba's or any other solely national liberation movement. This is a large market of the global trade that could feasibly decide to not interact with any capitalists, and this would really hurt the global market. I imagine neighboring states would be armed and supported (especially Pakistan, by the US and Chinese) to be aggressive towards the Indians .
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Well say goodbye to any chances of India becoming a world power, they also probably would see their own cultural revolution, and probably become a pariah state.
Yeah that and I don't think communism could solve any ethnic or religious tensions India has on top of that, may even worsen it.
Yeah that and I don't think communism could solve any ethnic or religious tensions India has on top of that, may even worsen it.