Ar Tonelico : From Discord to Harmony
Part I - Asciydria
Length - 30 chapters
Summary: A child...
Part I - Asciydria
Length - 30 chapters
Summary: A child...
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No worries! It's not a spoiler. The protagonist is a Reyvateil Origin. The nature of her existence will be explained in future chapters.And watched, there is not enough Ar tonelico fanfics, I do want to know what generation is this reyvateil or is that a spoiler
'Was already beginning', or 'had already begun' ?a thin layer of ice had already beginning to encroach over my soaked skin.
To be fair I was already wondering if jumping off might be a better choice to freezing to death, if no alternate options opened at all that is.... I mean, you can always hope for some kind of super lucky non-fatal landing. It's super unlikely if you are but a normal human, but not impossible. Besides... you could have seen more of the tower on the way down.My question was immediately answered with a sudden rush of wind from behind, knocking me off-balance. Multiple patches of ice—as if in cahoots with the harsh tempest—found themselves perfectly positioned to help push me along—into open sky.
'As a result' ?As I result, I barely felt anything when something in my arm gave way with a sickening snap,
And if she'd figured that out earlier maybe she could have gotten off that section of the tower in a different way...
No worries! It's not a spoiler. The protagonist is a Reyvateil Origin. The nature of her existence will be explained in future chapters.
Thank you very much! Spelling errors have been fixed. I've got no idea how I miss these with two others reading over my shoulder as I write.
As a counterpoint, I'd argue that the fact Reyvateils can become pregnant with humans (the fetus would need a steady supply of blood and nutrients) suggests otherwise. Biofluid is definitely something in my story that becomes more prevalent later on; I have it set that anything expelled from a Reyvateil's body (spit, blood, body parts, etc.) breaks down into clear liquid within seconds. The only reason I don't mention it in chapter 1 is because the protagonist never actually saw her own blood, so she was never able to witness it reverting into said clear liquid.
No, you clearly do...This is gonna sound kinda dumb... but I actually don't know how to do a linebreak. I'm new to SV, so I don't really have a handle on formatting yet.
I haven't seen much of Aquagon lately, possibly due to the situation in his home country, but you can always post questions at SPOILERS - Ar Tonelico and * nosurge discussion thread. Would be great to get a bit activity.As a counterpoint, I'd argue that the fact Reyvateils can become pregnant with humans (the fetus would need a steady supply of blood and nutrients) suggests otherwise. Biofluid is definitely something in my story that becomes more prevalent later on; I have it set that anything expelled from a Reyvateil's body (spit, blood, body parts, etc.) breaks down into clear liquid within seconds. The only reason I don't mention it in chapter 1 is because the protagonist never actually saw her own blood, so she was never able to witness it reverting into said clear liquid.
In terms of what Reyvateils are made of, I was under the impression that each and every one of them (aside from 3rd-gens, of course) were made up of biofluid, and it was simply a combination of the Triangular Nuclear Loop and the Cellophane that maintained their bodies, even dictating how they grew. Don't quote me on that, though—sadly I haven't been able to find a whole bunch of documentation on this stuff, so I've been doing the best I can with the information I have. I've had to fudge a lot of biology with the Origins in particular (specifically the depths of their cybernetics, how their brains work, and the nuances of being connected to the tower), and I can only hope that I've done it in a convincing way that both reads well in the story, and sounds plausible in the AT universe.
As for if Reyvateils could be killed from physical trauma, I'll just quote Tsuchiya's words on the matter: "Well, to start with, most of the time, when humans die because they've lost a large part of their body, it's due to blood loss or shock. It would be the same with Reyvateils, but the one thing that is rather different is that they won't necessarily die if they take damage to their heart.
Still, if that actually happened, most Reyvateils would die of the shock. Even a particularly strong-minded Reyvateil would find it hard to keep their cool in that sort of situation. After all, Reyvateils' psyches are modeled on the human psyche. Their bodies are stronger, in some respects, than human bodies, but since their minds are largely the same, most Reyvateils would probably die from panic or shock if they were presented with such a difficult situation. " (source: Technical Data Compilation Room Issue #4).
...Oh! Linebreaking like that. I'm a dummy, I'm sorry. I'll fix that right now.
'I gave a detailed look' or 'look of my surroundings' ?Rubbing the sleep dust from my eyes, I caught a detailed look at my surroundings.
I don't quite understand this, is this referring to it reducing her impact speed on the B section walls? Because from B to C is more then enough distance to reach terminal velocity again. I'd rather assumed it was the tree branches that broke her fall, there have been rare cases known of pilots jumping from planes with out parachute that survived due to that.The Prome Wall barrier caught you like a… fishing net, if you know what that is. It slowed your fall—barely, but just enough nonetheless!"
If only she'd been awake to see it all, clear evidence that she should have done it less haphazardly! Or have discovered she could contact the tower AI earlier.While I can't argue against the entertainment value of base jumping from the Apex, odds are you'll end up splattered somewhere on one of the islands."
I don't know about that frying thing, it's controlling the drones well enough after all and thus can communicate with them. Besides would small drones carry receivers of sufficient sensitivity or transmitters of sufficient power to bridge a really large gap? Why would they bother designing ones that did? What would you use them for that the tower arrays weren't meant for?Asciydria Tower's largest antennae were fried seven hundred years ago, and the smaller arrays on my drones didn't last much longer thanks to solar radiation. We're cut off here."
This sentence bothers me a little, though I'm not sure it's really wrong... Maybe it's just me?Peering in apprehensively, I earned an eyeful of a plethora of small white boxes,
I hope she finds someone to work a bit more on it, as I rather doubt she made the best of cuts there... so it probably looks like really badly cut hair... which it isn't for some reason though? Or perhaps she just can't see from the front?I carefully positioned the large blade—and with a swift sawing motion, I effortlessly cut through the thick strands. A faint gasp of satisfaction rose from my lips as the heavy tugging sensation on my scalp vanished. Wildly swinging my head around, I enjoyed the feeling of cool air on my now-exposed neck. The AI sighed, losing interest. "How boring."
Really? You're saying that to what's basically a walking supertech device? Probably should be more careful about throwing those stones, as one can wonder if these might not strike itself.Sentinel glared disapprovingly at the large mess of hair on the tiled floor. "Organics are disgusting."
'air currents of those higher altitudes' might be more clear? The sentence is kind of implying the air is some how gaining a lot of altitude after passing the mountains otherwise, as you're 'at higher'.dissipating seconds later in the choppy air currents at higher altitudes.
'eight enormous plates' ?
To be fair a 5 km diameter pillar has plenty of volume in theory to put cities in as well. Assuming it isn't solid of course.which erupted outwards into a superstructure that dwarfed any other part of the tower—and one that wouldn't have any trouble housing its own cities. Altogether, the superstructure must have been at least twenty kilometers tall, taking up the bulk of the spire's midsection.
I'm a little confused, earlier on its implied the 'mountain' she came from is actually the tower itself. But that would mean she'd need to look pretty much exactly up to see more of the tower. But from that angle I don't think you could 'see' all the features she's describing in the section above and what follows. Unless she's inadvertently using more then just her eyes here?To me, the tower section almost resembled the head of a bird of prey, beak pointing into the wind. The most striking feature of the 'head' shape was undoubtedly the singular eye, visible at the dead center of the structure—presumably, the far side of the tower looked identical. The eye's pupil was made up of an enormous white disc, stained with patches of rust. A brilliant luminescence emanated from a circular chasm that ran around the disc's circumference—the iris.
At least two alternate option comes to mind, you can start a conversation, where you only invite people with some knowledge on AT and thus would be relatively private. Or you can use some kind of chat program to discuss it in a more immediate and quick way with them. Or of course you can do both.I'm a little bit worried about asking questions (because some of the questions would likely be super-obvious spoilers for future story stuff), but I fully accept that I need to ask about... certain things and certain events I've already written for future chapters, and whether they're somewhat-plausible in the AT universe; and if not, how would I change them in a way that works. in spite of that, would you still recommend openly asking in the AT thread?
Again, thank you very much! Spelling errors have been rectified.
One thing that's gonna come up a bit later on in the story is that the Prome Wall hadn't actually been activated until she'd woken up, along with many other tower systems. Much like Suspend, a lot of the spire's systems had gone dormant to match her state after [UPCOMING PLOT THING]. While the wall is loosely modeled after its Harvestasha counterpart in AT3, it's quite different in a few regards; the one that pertains to this being that it has a really slow activation time, and during that time sheets of half-solidified energy that make up the wall (I've taken to calling it hardlight) swirl about the tower while the barrier is in the process of materializing. I like to think that it would be like falling through an incredibly dense cloud—thought obviously not enough to stop her from shattering her spine, among other things.I don't quite understand this, is this referring to it reducing her impact speed on the B section walls? Because from B to C is more then enough distance to reach terminal velocity again. I'd rather assumed it was the tree branches that broke her fall, there have been rare cases known of pilots jumping from planes with out parachute that survived due to that.
The comment about being splattered on the islands is actually a subtle reference to the fact that dying in her case = turning into a puddle of biofluid.Also I have my doubts on if terminal velocity would have been enough to splatter her fatally... well maybe. Still it's just 200-300 km/h... well assuming terminal is the same for Ar Ciel that is. I'm assuming it is though, as I think such details would roughly correspond with Earth still.
Besides... wouldn't the scarier scenario have been her missing the islands entirely and falling to the surface?
The array at the top of the tower doesn't control the drones—it's relegated to satellite communications and direct transmissions. The tower guardians use their own built-in antennae to maintain contact with their brethren. I should have been more clear about the state of long-range arrays on the drones, I think that was lost in translation during the revision. Only the largest machines (like automated airships) would have had antennae powerful enough to reach the dwindling number of satellites after the Grathnode Inferia—none remain now.I don't know about that frying thing, it's controlling the drones well enough after all and thus can communicate with them. Besides would small drones carry receivers of sufficient sensitivity or transmitters of sufficient power to bridge a really large gap? Why would they bother designing ones that did? What would you use them for that the tower arrays weren't meant for?
As such I think the loss of the tower communication systems would maybe be a sufficient explanation. I'm also presuming this includes things as secondary arrays, backups etc... possibly due to I don't know... the entire antenna spire at the top being lost or something?
Alternately this tower is completely beyond the horizon even at its top from the other towers and as such depended on a relay satellite for communication. Such units do exist and if the one or ones they were depending on were lost or became non-functional, turned off or otherwise, they wouldn't be able to communicate regardless of their local resources then.
It's not just you; i couldn't think of anything better at the time of writing, though. I'll come up with something better.This sentence bothers me a little, though I'm not sure it's really wrong... Maybe it's just me?
I like to imagine that it looks pretty awful in certain places, but neither she nor Sentinel cares enough to remark on it. Sylphira's not really one to focus that much about her own appearance when all her spare time in the early stages of the story is taken up learning about the world she apparently has no memories for, and the later stages spent figuring out how to stop the tower from collapsing in on itself.I hope she finds someone to work a bit more on it, as I rather doubt she made the best of cuts there... so it probably looks like really badly cut hair... which it isn't for some reason though? Or perhaps she just can't see from the front?
I like to think that she would've been able to see most of the details in Sections B and C just fine from her position at the base of the Silvaplate. She's looking at the tower from its side, so there's more laid out and it doesn't bulge out as far. While almost all of Section A is invisible to her, she can still see the power regulator module as it juts out as far as the reactor exhaust does (the spinning cylinder is the power regulator's housing, the brilliant glowing light is the Ardel crystal within).I'm a little confused, earlier on its implied the 'mountain' she came from is actually the tower itself. But that would mean she'd need to look pretty much exactly up to see more of the tower. But from that angle I don't think you could 'see' all the features she's describing in the section above and what follows. Unless she's inadvertently using more then just her eyes here?
Either that or I'm misunderstanding where she is? If she's at the edge of the islands I suppose she'd have a bit more angle to work with.
The tower has two main sources of energy—one is the Orgel, the other is a system of pipes in Section C called the Mistral Artifice.I kind of wonder what the power supply is for this tower though... Presumably it isn't Ar Tonelico as otherwise it could have fallen down when Shurelia shut it down temporarily. Or has that not happened yet?
Well for now I'll instead speculate that it's related to the Orgel singularity engine in the graph, though that kind of sounds more like something Ra Ciela would build then Ar Ciel. Or I could be misinterpreting the name. Maybe it's a kind of duplicate to the Ar Tonelico Orgel? Though I'm pretty sure that doesn't look anything like that... Hmmm, curious.
Mmh... that's an excellent point. I guess I'll have to find someone willing and well-versed in AT lore, and either doesn't care about this story or doesn't care about spoilers.Sorry for the double post, but else this response might get buried under the rather large other response by me.
At least two alternate option comes to mind, you can start a conversation, where you only invite people with some knowledge on AT and thus would be relatively private. Or you can use some kind of chat program to discuss it in a more immediate and quick way with them. Or of course you can do both.
*snort*Mmh... that's an excellent point. I guess I'll have to find someone willing and well-versed in AT lore, and either doesn't care about this story or doesn't care about spoilers.
I see, but it's that it is called the 'Orgel Singularity' that caught my eye. As that's information I thought only came from the two prequel games to the Ar Tonelico games. I suppose here to I'm kind of politely dancing around the issue on if you already know fully how and in what way the Orgel actually works. A question that came up to me due to the naming, together with an alternate theory on what that power system might really contain in a sense.The tower has two main sources of energy—one is the Orgel, the other is a system of pipes in Section C called the Mistral Artifice.
While interesting, it's actually not what I meant to refer to with the question. Specifically I was asking which impact it was helping her slow down for. As it would seem to far up to matter for the islands and thus the only alternate option that came to me was that maybe she bounced off part of the B section, and it had helped to slow that impact down.One thing that's gonna come up a bit later on in the story is that the Prome Wall hadn't actually been activated until she'd woken up, along with many other tower systems.
True, I was just thinking the AI wouldn't know or care.You're right about the Sea being a lot scarier; however, the protagonist doesn't know about its existence yet. As far as she knows, it's just really dense cloud cover.
My concern was a bit because the tower has a spread out part before the B section, which presumably would block some of the immediate arc one can see up if one is looking from what is basically near exactly next to the tower, considering the description implies she walked out of it. But I'll admit I can't really be sure if it would block the view to the particular features you're describing. And I can understand if as an author you want to describe the local structure a bit.I like to think that she would've been able to see most of the details in Sections B and C just fine from her position at the base of the Silvaplate. She's looking at the tower from its side, so there's more laid out and it doesn't bulge out as far. While almost all of Section A is invisible to her, she can still see the power regulator module as it juts out as far as the reactor exhaust does (the spinning cylinder is the power regulator's housing, the brilliant glowing light is the Ardel crystal within).
My complaint was more about 'solar radiation' burning out drone receiver/transmitter arrays. If this was actually true then all the drones would be presumably inoperable or on completely autonomous mode, as you'd have no way to externally control them any more. Except if they have backups I suppose. But if you had backups the original issue might return, unless they're particularly small. Also Solar radiation sounds a bit like a 'just so' excuse, something that just conveniently broke that one system but not really anything else really, like for instance all the other towers... Basically it seems a little a contrived an answer.The array at the top of the tower doesn't control the drones—it's relegated to satellite communications and direct transmissions. The tower guardians use their own built-in antennae to maintain contact with their brethren. I should have been more clear about the state of long-range arrays on the drones, I think that was lost in translation during the revision. Only the largest machines (like automated airships) would have had antennae powerful enough to reach the dwindling number of satellites after the Grathnode Inferia—none remain now.
And you're correct about needing satellites to communicate with places beyond the planet's curvature. Even if the array was fully-repaired, Asciydria would never be able to communicate with Metafalss or Harvestasha without the use of its space gun to launch satellites. However, Asciydria Tower is actually situated rather close to Ar Tonelico—it's located near the tip of a peninsula in southeast Sol Cluster, to the point where if its array was working, it would be able to communicate with Ar Tonelico if anyone was listening. Of course, the drawback there is that Asciydria was extremely vulnerable when the Grathnode Inferia happened. More on that in a future chapter.
This is how I have it written as up in Part II, Ch10.I see, but it's that it is called the 'Orgel Singularity' that caught my eye. As that's information I thought only came from the two prequel games to the Ar Tonelico games. I suppose here to I'm kind of politely dancing around the issue on if you already know fully how and in what way the Orgel actually works. A question that came up to me due to the naming, together with an alternate theory on what that power system might really contain in a sense.
I'm sorry, I should've been more clear. During activation, sheets of half-materialized hardlight swirl about the entirety of the tower as projectors fire up. Gradually, the projectors properly orient the barriers, closing them up into a tightly-concentrated shield around Section B and above—at that point, the Prome Wall is fully active (this also means that the projectors can be manipulated to change the shape of the Prome Wall, which will be needed much later in Part II). It's like in certain sci-fi games; when a spherical shield begins to recharge, it first appears extremely large and faint, but shrinks and becomes brighter as it fully recharges.While interesting, it's actually not what I meant to refer to with the question. Specifically I was asking which impact it was helping her slow down for. As it would seem to far up to matter for the islands and thus the only alternate option that came to me was that maybe she bounced off part of the B section, and it had helped to slow that impact down.
To put it another way, I have no reason to think the Prome Wall would be anywhere near the top of the islands, and thus wouldn't have had any influence on her impact speed on those.
I can neither confirm nor deny this.Though this does make me wonder now if anyone noticed the tower changing its operation then, because presumably the place is inhabited.
I'll remove it, then.My complaint was more about 'solar radiation' burning out drone receiver/transmitter arrays. If this was actually true then all the drones would be presumably inoperable or on completely autonomous mode, as you'd have no way to externally control them any more. Except if they have backups I suppose. But if you had backups the original issue might return, unless they're particularly small. Also Solar radiation sounds a bit like a 'just so' excuse, something that just conveniently broke that one system but not really anything else really, like for instance all the other towers... Basically it seems a little a contrived an answer.
Also after Ciel nosurge and its 'amazing' levels of solar radiation, I'm a little dubious about those so easily killing all comms, certainly some what hardened space variants were shown surviving 'astonishing' amounts of punishment. Though admittedly that is another planet and they built other tech, it still stands out to me.
So I instead asked whether the drones even needed such a powerful array in the first place. Presumably drones wouldn't be expected to need to operate far from the tower in the first place, right? So you might not give them very long range comms then either, correct?
And as an alternate I suggested that perhaps the tower being beyond visual range could be an alternate solution, with sat failure then being the reason, if for some reason you really thought the drones should have such a feature. The nations in an alliance around Ar Tonelico after all would have covered a very large amount of land. So being that distant wouldn't seem inconceivable location wise. Air ships can travel long range as well and this tower clearly had a very good airship facility, it doesn't matter really for orbital infra structure making either, satellites will over time get where they need to be. And it could have been that the local nations there had something particular to contribute in helping the tower along.
Asciydria is actually closer to Ar Tonelico than Metafalss—the difference between the two being that Asciydria is across the sea that divides Sol Ciel/Metafalss and Sol Cluster. It's set on the tip of a peninsula that reaches out towards Sol Ciel. Shurelia is aware of its existence, but believes that it collapsed during the Grathnode Inferia.Also... Metafalss is that close to Ar Tonelico as well, was it really hit that hard by the Grathnode Inferia? Well ok, it failed to complete and all those other problems. But this was all more of a power problem then something else, wasn't it?
Maybe I'm not explaining my point properly... I'll try to break it up in to more distinct logic statements, maybe that will help.I'm sorry, I should've been more clear. During activation, sheets of half-materialized hardlight swirl about the entirety of the tower as projectors fire up. Gradually, the projectors properly orient the barriers, closing them up into a tightly-concentrated shield around Section B and above—at that point, the Prome Wall is fully active (this also means that the projectors can be manipulated to change the shape of the Prome Wall, which will be needed much later in Part II). It's like in certain sci-fi games; when a spherical shield begins to recharge, it first appears extremely large and faint, but shrinks and becomes brighter as it fully recharges.
Oh god... they built a second one... I suppose I can understand wanting lots of power, but it's really better if they hadn't made a second link. I have a sudden urge to link to the relevant song magics from Ciel nosurge and Ar nosurge, though if you haven't played/watched them, they'd constitute spoilers to their plots to an extent. In any case the white hole and where it goes to.
I understood what you meant, I'm just not explaining it right. I'll try and do it from this perspective... if you were standing down on the Isles of Aria and someone began to activate the Prome Wall, you would find the air getting much thicker, maybe even a little bit difficult to breathe in. Hair would stand on end, minute arcs of electricity would bridge between surfaces. Not long afterwards, the sensation would fade as the materializing hardlight was concentrated into its correct shape—shrouding Sections A and B. The reason for that is because the Prome Wall's barrier is formed thanks to projectors—a third of which are located in Section C, because the barrier can extend over the lower part of the tower too. However, its default state is to solely cover Sections A and B, to allow entry to the tower through the anchor and the use of the secondary skydock.I hope that clarifies the matter to you.
Oh god... they built a second one... I suppose I can understand wanting lots of power, but it's really better if they hadn't made a second link. I have a sudden urge to link to the relevant song magics from Ciel nosurge and Ar nosurge, though if you haven't played/watched them, they'd constitute spoilers to their plots to an extent. In any case the white hole and where it goes to.
Thank you!
Ahh, so like that.I understood what you meant, I'm just not explaining it right. I'll try and do it from this perspective... if you were standing down on the Isles of Aria and someone began to activate the Prome Wall, you would find the air getting much thicker, maybe even a little bit difficult to breathe in. Hair would stand on end, minute arcs of electricity would bridge between surfaces. Not long afterwards, the sensation would fade as the materializing hardlight was concentrated into its correct shape—shrouding Sections A and B. The reason for that is because the Prome Wall's barrier is formed thanks to projectors—a third of which are located in Section C, because the barrier can extend over the lower part of the tower too. However, its default state is to solely cover Sections A and B, to allow entry to the tower through the anchor and the use of the secondary skydock.
Also probably the last idea in history. I expect that would have been the last thing anyone ever did on the planet really. Don't shoot fully active orgels, really bad things will probably happen. At least the theory implies it would be really really really bad.Yeah, the ramifications of it are a little crazy. I'm still trying to figure out how it fits in to the AU history, because a second Orgel is... well, frankly a big deal. I'm currently toying with the thought that it was one of several plans swiped from Sol Ciel, and the copying and construction of it was what caused the escalation that resulted in Seven Bloodstains. Obviously, Ar Tonelico didn't shoot at the half-built Asciydria, because damaging the Orgel is almost certainly the worst possible idea in the history of Exa Pico.