Apple to adapt Asimov's Foundation

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Apple is developing a drama series based on the "Foundation" book trilogy by Isaac Asimov, Variety has confirmed.

The potential series will be written and executive produced by David S. Goyer and Josh Friedman, who will also serve as co-showrunners. Skydance Television is producing the series with David Ellison, Dana Goldberg and Marcy Ross also serving as executive producers.


I frankly don't see how that can end well.
 
Hoo-Boy, I can't imagine this ending well.

It's 76% people having conversations, not what your average TV watcher wants out of a sci-fi epic, the fools.
 
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Yeah I don't think they even mention things your average modern sci fi fan likes like space battles or whatever
 
It's impressive that the trailer manages to get accross a complicated concept fairly well.

But I'm not that found of the whole 'Order (here represented by an imperial rome analogue) = good Chaos = Bad, darkness' narrative here.
 
Nah, more like 30% conversation, 46% emotional arguments. Foundation is mostly guys discussing economics.

And also, this isn't an average TV Show, it's a SF epic, people expect more explosions.
You do get one big ship in The Mayors... but then climax is the ship shutting down rather something more explosive (still, that story is one of the rare cases in Foundation of someone shooting with intent to kill another human on-screen).
 
It does, but it looks like they're focusing on Hari Seldon a bit more than is warranted?
To me, it seems like they're adapting Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation, rather than adapting the Foundation series.

Which is unfortunate, because those are some of my least favorite Asimov works, to the point where I'd argue they bring down the quality of the Foundation series as a whole.
 
To me, it seems like they're adapting Prelude to Foundation and Forward the Foundation, rather than adapting the Foundation series.

Which is unfortunate, because those are some of my least favorite Asimov works, to the point where I'd argue they bring down the quality of the Foundation series as a whole.
They do seem to have some bits of The Encyclopedists in there (and then a very different - and on-screen - settling of Terminus, from the looks of it), given that one of the trailer scenes is Gaal being told by Seldon that they're likely going to arrest him tomorrow, and probably her too, out of worry for his predictions of doom for the Empire.
 
I think people have this wrong.

Apple's not adapting foundation to make a show. They're actually buying a remote island chain to build a society based off the foundation books as the world collapses into chaos and anarchy. Now the main problem is that they are cluelessly only allowing in rich people because they forgot what is actually valuable.
 
I can't get over how in the trailer they put over Apple as a brilliant company for the betterment of humankind the sorta thing Asimov would've wanted. I don't really pay attention to Apple TV stuff is that just what they do in their trailers?

Always happy to see Jared Harris though.
 
I can't get over how in the trailer they put over Apple as a brilliant company for the betterment of humankind the sorta thing Asimov would've wanted. I don't really pay attention to Apple TV stuff is that just what they do in their trailers?

Always happy to see Jared Harris though.

There's always a bit of self-congratulation with Apple. But I've been told the shows they produce are supposed to be pretty good.
 


Unless there are a lot of time-jumps in this, it feels like the timeline is greatly accelerated and mashed together, or they've bodged some drama in there in terms of explosions and big statues getting squashed by falling debris.

"chronicles a band of exiles on their monumental journey to save humanity and rebuild civilization amid the fall of the Galactic Empire".

The actual journey to Terminus isn't particularly dramatic. Seldon manipulates a Committee into exiling him, rather than murdering him, and they all toddle off to the edges of the Empire, out of sight, out of mind, whilst the Empire disintegrates over the next few centuries.

So the entire cast are dead before anything really interesting apart from lots of talking and politics happens. Even then the "Seldon Crises" are, that we know of, involve religious, economic and political solutions to scenarios.

These three blokes playing the Emperor appear constructed whole cloth to take the place of the Committee that actually exiles Seldon and his followers, perhaps drawing from the character of Cleon II as the only Emperor who actually appears and does something, even if its far later on.

It might be an interesting TV show, and I will give it the chance to be, but the action packed trailer suggests a hell of a lot of license is being taken, just to get us those dramatic moments.

Checking this all reminded me that the galactic Empire might only have happened because of Asimov's version of the TVA as well, hence the absence of any chance of aliens in the milky way, and relates to the ultimate goal to create the Second Empire/Galaxia (it isn't perfectly clear that Asimov didn't intend for these two to merge) as a bulwark against hostile extra galactic aliens.

I wonder how much the TV show is going to resist dabbling in the wilder stuff that is far beyond the scope of the story it appears to be telling, which is one short story of one collection from the "Foundation" novel, since we don't appear to have any indication we're going to see Seldon as a young man.

The cynic in me expects a lot of cherry picking and editing. Also I have to laugh at them recasting the boring young mathematician who eventually takes over as a young lady, to get some sex appeal into the sausagefest, as it looks like Gaal Dornick is hooking up with Raych Seldon, with no sign of Seldon's wife, or Raych's backstory and actual family being a thing.

Dancing around spoilers, Eto Demerzel as a lady suggests they are either abandoning the long term stuff, or just not bothered about it right now, and feel like it doesn't matter for spoilery reasons.
 
I like most of Asimov's books, but the Foundation novels are probably my least favorite of anything he ever wrote. I always found the future history premise of it to be sheer bullshit, and there isn't much drama to it when the protagonist faction is boring, infallible and invincible.

Really, it's a shame that, of all of Asmov's books, it's this one that's getting an adaptation instead of the robot detective novels.
 
I like most of Asimov's books, but the Foundation novels are probably my least favorite of anything he ever wrote. I always found the future history premise of it to be sheer bullshit, and there isn't much drama to it when the protagonist faction is boring, infallible and invincible.

Really, it's a shame that, of all of Asmov's books, it's this one that's getting an adaptation instead of the robot detective novels.

I mean the trick is Seldon also sets up a secret order of psychics who go about mind controlling people to follow the path he set down.


But everyone is ultimately being manipulated by the psychic robot who llves in the moon to create a wierd galactic gestalt consciousness.
 
I mean the trick is Seldon also sets up a secret order of psychics who go about mind controlling people to follow the path he set down.


But everyone is ultimately being manipulated by the psychic robot who llves in the moon to create a wierd galactic gestalt consciousness.
I quit reading well before that point. This isn't the same psychic robot from the Robot series, is it?
 
One thing I did like about Foundation's Edge is how 'the future predictions are too infallible' is used twice, by separate people to separate groups, as an argument for there being someone (else, one is a Second Foundationer) out there manipulating things to keep the Plan on track (and they're both right, too).
 
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