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It wasn't? In canon, it was swiped during the Camp field trip to Olympus for Christmas/Winter Solstice. Percy's deadline to return it was June 21st, the Summer Solstice.
It wasn't? In canon, it was swiped during the Camp field trip to Olympus for Christmas/Winter Solstice. Percy's deadline to return it was June 21st, the Summer Solstice.
"First times can be a little rough, and messy and unsatisfying, but practice makes perfect!"
"Dude."
"What?" I could hear the smile in his voice. "I'm talking about Prophecies, obviously. Get your mind out of the gutter."
Ah ha! You're hilariousAphrodite seems like she would be cool with 'defects' right?
Very accepting and calm?
The Twelve Cabins are only for their children. Hermes takes in strays. Percy was 'assigned' the Big House to sleep in, so he doesn't have a Cabin as the Big House is the administrative building for the Camp staff.I love the yugioh cards as oracle readings!!!
Also, doesn't he have a cabin? He slept in the big house, right? Or maybe that doesn't count.
Also also, it'll be interesting to see how the other campers react to Percy living with his mother and not being a single-parent-child.
Actually not sure what this comment is referring to...
It can't be a threat, because Percy is still a twelve year old demigod. Even assuming he can actually use the Bolt somehow, its still a very mortal boy verses the Lord of the Underworld while in said Lord's throne room. Hades interpreted Percy having the Bolt as 'proof' he also stole the Helmet of Darkness, he says so in the text. But somehow the fact that Percy would have to be a complete moron to steal the Master Bolt and the Helm of Darkness and instead of delivering them to his Dad, walk back into the Underworld with them is not questioned.Also, canon Hades reacting to Percy arriving with the master bolt wasn't an overreaction, in my opinion. A son of Poseidon, arriving with the bolt in tow, is easily interpreted as a threat (from Poseidon to Hades)
(Hades had every right to being angry due to the situation - not only because of his helmet, but also because his brothers broke their oaths while he had to hide his kids to ensure they weren't killed, which was EXTREMELY hypocritical. Zeus and Poseidon's kids were able to live - or at least that's my take on it, with how the behind the scenes stuff for WW2 was described…)
As for the Minotaur - I say that was a snap descion, and it wouldn't be POSSIBLE for Hades to recall it!
(The entire situation was set up so that they all were reacting to events
And I mean, Hades could've just let Sally die, instead of taking her the way he did. With the way Hades took her, it meant she hadn't truly died, and as such he had Enough slack to personally return her. Unlike with the other heroes, where they had to go through a trial to earn the return of their loved one…
Hades ISN'T thinking straight at that time. (Which was the point. He's getting desperate and here a possible answer is.)It can't be a threat, because Percy is still a twelve year old demigod. Even assuming he can actually use the Bolt somehow, its still a very mortal boy verses the Lord of the Underworld while in said Lord's throne room. Hades interpreted Percy having the Bolt as 'proof' he also stole the Helmet of Darkness, he says so in the text. But somehow the fact that Percy would have to be a complete moron to steal the Master Bolt and the Helm of Darkness and instead of delivering them to his Dad, walk back into the Underworld with them is not questioned.
I guess sons of Poseidon are just normally that stupid so no one thinks twice?
Hades taking Sally could be a bargaining chip for Percy, but it was most likely aimed at Poseidon. Remember, the Bolt and Helm were stolen almost 6 months ago. If Poseidon was stirring up trouble, why would Percy have two god weapons on him that entire time? The only leverage Hades could possibly get over Poseidon was either A) Taking his demigod son or B) Taking his current mortal lover. And as Percy 'isn't supposed to exist' anyway, Sally is actually worth more than her son.
Considering said young demigod is before Hades himself in the dude's throne room? He's a non-issue. The idea of 'Poseidon sent his 12 year old son to threaten me into X or else this boy will X me up' is laughable. There are very few 'indirect' threats to Hades. Bianca and Nico are with the lotus eaters. Every other member of Hades family is immortal. Stealing a soul from an afterlife is annoying, but not harmful to Hades at all. Blasting any of Hades' monsters will just make them respawn. I literally don't understand this idea of Percy being a threat in any way to Hades.Hades ISN'T thinking straight at that time. (Which was the point. He's getting desperate and here a possible answer is.)
And the idea of a Young Demigod not posing a threat (of course, not a DIRECT one) is a joke.
But yea, he jumped to conclusions. That isn't exactly a major crime - that's something very common anyway!
But the REASON for reaching that conclusion isn't the same!And yes, jumping to conclusions is common. However, when the conclusion you jump to is one shared by *Zeus,* that should be a sign to take a step back from the stupid.
Did you forget that Hades sent Alecto, the Fury, otherwise known as the Pre-Algebra teacher Mrs. Dodds after Percy accusing him of theivery? And then the Minotaur? And then all three Furies at the same time? When Percy did NOT in fact, show any sign of having the Master Bolt?But the REASON for reaching that conclusion isn't the same!
Zeus only had the evidence of 'Posiden had a kid'.
Hades had 'Posiden's kid has ahold of the Master Bolt'
either way, I see it as Kronos having set them up for infighting.
I mean, okay, but How is the big question here. The very cosmology means if you kill Athena, Hephaestus and Hermes, you literally kill mankind's ability to invent anything.The whole Percy Jackson series is an argument for New Management. The entirety of the Titan blooded need to go. Every last Child of Gaia need to die, their Thrones broken, their souls bound or destroyed. Humanity needs to go interstellar and destroy Gaia when they leave.
Give Gaia a taste of her own medicine
I'm wondering how those parasites managed to tie themselves to humanity's collective subconscious that tightly. If they were able to do so, there is a way to unbind themI mean, okay, but How is the big question here. The very cosmology means if you kill Athena, Hephaestus and Hermes, you literally kill mankind's ability to invent anything.
By being humanity's collective subconscious.I'm wondering how those parasites managed to tie themselves to humanity's collective subconscious that tightly. If they were able to do so, there is a way to unbind them
Well, only part of it right? Like, even in canon (where they make a lot of very grandoise claims about themself that the story does not always back up), the only ever claim to be running/linked to western civilization. Would killing Hermes really effect, say, india? People living in Alaska, the land beyond the gods (which was kind of not great worldbuilding in canon so I totally understand if that's not a thing here). Uncontacted native tribes in the amazon?I mean, okay, but How is the big question here. The very cosmology means if you kill Athena, Hephaestus and Hermes, you literally kill mankind's ability to invent anything.
Dionysus makes it plain what it means to be linked to Western Civilization. Inventions that were made with divine inspiration? Incomprehensible. If it weren't for gods of medicine at least half of the medical schools wouldn't exist. Great figures of history were all demigods. For your example, India was literally colonized by the British Empire. Killing Hermes would absolutely affect every advancement they made since at least that point. Alaska is the land beyond the gods where direct godly intervention is not a thing, but it does not mean gods can't go there (see, Thanatos and Alcyoneus) or that divinity is somehow vanished upon entering as demigod inherited powers still work. The uncontacted native tribes would be fine, but chances are pretty high they either have their own little pantheon or are under the umbrella of a bigger one. Brazilian mythology for example.Well, only part of it right? Like, even in canon (where they make a lot of very grandoise claims about themself that the story does not always back up), the only ever claim to be running/linked to western civilization. Would killing Hermes really effect, say, india? People living in Alaska, the land beyond the gods (which was kind of not great worldbuilding in canon so I totally understand if that's not a thing here). Uncontacted native tribes in the amazon?
If that's how it works that's how it works but what I don't buy is that the world looks like ours if those are the rules. This feels like the kind of world building that was never meant to be scrutinized too heavily and is more like set dressing. If it isn't actually focused on in the story it seems like a lot of unnecessary work to try to justify. Of course that's entirely up to youDionysus makes it plain what it means to be linked to Western Civilization. Inventions that were made with divine inspiration? Incomprehensible. If it weren't for gods of medicine at least half of the medical schools wouldn't exist. Great figures of history were all demigods. For your example, India was literally colonized by the British Empire. Killing Hermes would absolutely affect every advancement they made since at least that point. Alaska is the land beyond the gods where direct godly intervention is not a thing, but it does not mean gods can't go there (see, Thanatos and Alcyoneus) or that divinity is somehow vanished upon entering as demigod inherited powers still work. The uncontacted native tribes would be fine, but chances are pretty high they either have their own little pantheon or are under the umbrella of a bigger one. Brazilian mythology for example.
You obviously get to set the rules for your fanfic, but for canon/headcanon... well, I'd be suspicious about what Dionysus (or any other god) says about the importance of gods. He's not exactly an impartial source, and it's in his best interest to claim that the gods are super critical to everything. He might even genuinely believe it, because killing gods doesn't happen all that often, and he's also a mite self-important.Dionysus makes it plain what it means to be linked to Western Civilization. Inventions that were made with divine inspiration? Incomprehensible. If it weren't for gods of medicine at least half of the medical schools wouldn't exist. Great figures of history were all demigods. For your example, India was literally colonized by the British Empire. Killing Hermes would absolutely affect every advancement they made since at least that point. Alaska is the land beyond the gods where direct godly intervention is not a thing, but it does not mean gods can't go there (see, Thanatos and Alcyoneus) or that divinity is somehow vanished upon entering as demigod inherited powers still work. The uncontacted native tribes would be fine, but chances are pretty high they either have their own little pantheon or are under the umbrella of a bigger one. Brazilian mythology for example.