Remove ads

Age of Strife

Reader mode
Do we aunty ally have any weapons to use in cqc, beyond maybe a knife. This is 40k we should probably get something to help in a melee.

504 has power tools and that seems to be working well for them right now.
 
Those morale rolls - holy crap.

[X] Attempt to deceive the Dragonflies
- [X] March on the farms

I would assume that we'd be told if we notice anything odd about the bodies (ie, all the same face and so on).

I'm still tempted to go with "... and tell the forces at the farm to fall back towards us".

frostgiant said:
Do we aunty ally have any weapons to use in cqc, beyond maybe a knife. This is 40k we should probably get something to help in a melee.

504 has power tools and that seems to be working well for them right now.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

We'll reinvent the chainsword later :p
 
CircleTheSkies said:
Those morale rolls - holy crap.

[X] Attempt to deceive the Dragonflies
- [X] March on the farms

I would assume that we'd be told if we notice anything odd about the bodies (ie, all the same face and so on).

I'm still tempted to go with "... and tell the forces at the farm to fall back towards us".



We'll reinvent the chainsword later :p
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Good enough for me.
 
Vlad said:
If DAoT tech is in anyway succeptible to EM fields I will be suprised.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

A lot of Haywire weapons are EM and EMPs, so yeah they work plenty well. Other variation include specifically deisgned nanobots that will eat plastics or circuits, or bolts and wires, or radiation weapons. And all of these lovely things come in grenade form...
 
CircleTheSkies said:
I'm still tempted to go with "... and tell the forces at the farm to fall back towards us".
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

That is possibly but would require a breakout at this point. With the 504s in total disarray the Dragonflies have the numbers to trap the forces inside the farms now. Of course, attacking an enemy with automatic weapons in a confined space is going to be totally brutal to carry through.
 
Regarding the whole Fanatical morale and lots of people i think i have a suspicion on the Dragonfly setup.
They are nobles so are politically savy, and most likely had access to some nifty medical tech or gear printers.

Conscripted their slave labour into Janissary units and then had them implanted with skull bombs, or lobotomized them.

That or had some very very very good rethoric on why they are better off under Dragonfly rule, and that they need the farm - propaganda and all that jazz, most likely bought guns from a third party or something.

Neither is good. I say we take their uniforms and try to pull one over them, infiltrate them and then shatter them from inside.

CircleTheSkies said:
We'll reinvent the chainsword later :p
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Fuck chainswords. I am pretty sure that those power tools are more damaging if less ergonomic.

If we do want some melee weapons probably go into powerswords or vibroswords if we are on a budget. Not some bastardized chainsaw katana. We refuse to descend into Mad Max barbarity no mater the circumstance.
 
Last edited:
remulian said:
Regarding the whole Fanatical morale and lots of people i think i have a suspicion on the Dragonfly setup.
They are nobles so are politically savy, and most likely had access to some nifty medical tech or gear printers.

Conscripted their slave labour into Janissary units and then had them implanted with skull bombs, or lobotomized them.

That or had some very very very good rethoric on why they are better off under Dragonfly rule, and that they need the farm - propaganda and all that jazz, most likely bought guns from a third party or something.

Neither is good. I say we take their uniforms and try to pull one over them, infiltrate them and then shatter them from inside.



Fuck chainswords. I am pretty sure that those power tools are more damaging if less ergonomic.

If we do want some melee weapons probably go into powerswords or vibroswords if we are on a budget. Not some bastardized chainsaw katana. We refuse to descend into Mad Max barbarity no mater the circumstance.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I don't think 'Power Tools' means 'Tools with Power Fields' in this case, mang.
 
Kolar said:
Yeah. They are only short ranged controlled plasma emitters. Chainswords are way better than lightsabers. Not.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Well, against armored opponent and depending on armor monomolecular adamantium chainblade can be better than plasma cutter. Against unarmored/lightly armored both are overkill.
 
Kolar said:
Yeah. They are only short ranged controlled plasma emitters. Chainswords are way better than lightsabers. Not.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I was going to make a statement before I noticed your invistext.

In all honesty if our tech-base remains intact enough I'd prefer that melee weapons remain a secondary and not the primary method of combat. Let the Space Marines charge forward into a hail of defensive fire waving their whirring phallic replacements like wanna be Orks. We'll simply blow the enemy's heads off with a man portable railgun at a click and a half.
 
Chainswords spray biocontaminat fluids all over. Seriously without a full enclosed suit fighting with them is a bad idea. If you need percussion vibro swords and stuff. If you need to disintegrate it a powersword will be better.

But then again if you are using a adamantium tipped chainsword its going to be inferior to a adamantium tipped disc cutter powertool mounted on a mech frame. And the Disc cutter is way way more safe since it wont spit chain teeth all over in case of critical malfunction and butcher your hands at the very least.
 
So you guys know, the industrial plasma cutters are currently only fit for militia weapons because they are close range, extremely bulky (think an industrial concrete saw combined with a proton pack from Ghostbusters only bigger), get not that much ammunition out of the wide beam option, and don't inflict that much damage unless on tight beam.

That said, researching Plasma Physics will open up modifications and improvements.
 
Academia Nut said:
So you guys know, the industrial plasma cutters are currently only fit for militia weapons because they are close range, extremely bulky (think an industrial concrete saw combined with a proton pack from Ghostbusters only bigger), get not that much ammunition out of the wide beam option, and don't inflict that much damage unless on tight beam.

That said, researching Plasma Physics will open up modifications and improvements.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Speaking of research do we have any AIs or cyborgs that can act as a AI? If not then how much would it help with research if we get them.

As for melee weapon I would prefer not having one outside of a bayonette.

Could we have our troops wear magnetic boots to be able to scale any surface and grappling hook launchers to move like you can in Just Cause so if they need to fight they can possition themselves anywhere for a firing position? The whole planet is made of metal so magnetic attraction would work even in forests.
 
If we have AIs we would have to destroy/kill them when the Imperium arrives during the Great Crusade. AIs are regarded as abominations by the Mechanicum and the Imperium. If we don't they will attack us, probably with the Iron Hands legion.
I'm not sure if there is a very small chance to convince them that the AIs we have are not going to kill us all horribly when they have the chance. I think that would be nearly impossible.
 
Arbit said:
If we have AIs we would have to destroy/kill them when the Imperium arrives during the Great Crusade. AIs are regarded as abominations by the Mechanicum and the Imperium. If we don't they will attack us, probably with the Iron Hands legion.
I'm not sure if there is a very small chance to convince them that the AIs we have are not going to kill us all horribly when they have the chance. I think that would be nearly impossible.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I really hate personally how monolythic the Imperium is portrayed.

There are no independent sectors or human planets worth mentioning that doesn't answer to the Eclessiarchy, fallen to Chaos or decided to join the Tau.

If I had to make a comparison it would be like America controlling the world and there are no other countries. No China, no Russia, no lose union like the EU that can at least give pause to stop from being invaded.
 
Vlad said:
I really hate personally how monolythic the Imperium is portrayed.

There are no independent sectors or human planets worth mentioning that doesn't answer to the Eclessiarchy, fallen to Chaos or decided to join the Tau.

If I had to make a comparison it would be like America controlling the world and there are no other countries. No China, no Russia, no lose union like the EU that can at least give pause to stop from being invaded.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The prohibition against AI is universal. In this it really is monolithic. It's one of the core tenets of the Mechanicum and when the Emperor allied with them it was part of their treaty as well. He also likely forbade it before then too. Many members of the Mechanicum sided with Horus because he promised them they would be allowed to research them.
 
We've... got some time before then, needless to say. We can worry about that in, say, three and a half millenia. That gives us five centuries before Slaneesh is properly 'born' from the maelstrom of the Eldar self-destructing, and a further millenia after that to worry about incoming Imperium.

And if by then our "AI" is effectively built-in cogitators (or cyborgs), then we're nicely in the clear anyway. You can do incredible things with today's 'intelligent agents', really. There's not exactly a need for self-aware computers...
 
As long as they are not self aware there is no problem or a negilible chance of a problem. That may be easily fixed by restricting them more.
 
Arbit said:
As long as they are not self aware there is no problem or a negilible chance of a problem. That may be easily fixed by restricting them more.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Chaos corruption and computer hacking works on normal programs as it can on AI.

One could argue the more intelligent the AI program is the better it can resist corruption cause it can devise its own countermeasures.

Maybe we will stumble over a Necron tomb and have a few millenia to examine specimens to gleam some knowledge on how they resist corruption.
 
[X] Attempt to deceive the Dragonflies
- [X] March on the Dragonflies FOB

If we take out the enemy FOB then maybe we can stop the endless horde of reinforcements.
 
mc2rpg said:
I am curious why you are so opposed to having something better than a bayonet. Having more options is always a good thing.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Because of weight and carry capacity.

If you can carry a melee weapon then you can ditch it to carry more bullets or power packs for your weapon.

On the other hand have nothing against the tools soldiers are equiped with being train to use them for melee if the situation degenerates to that extent.
 
Last edited:
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top