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[X] Duesal
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Only what they do under our rule matters.
The past is past.
It's what you did way back when you captured your first sundered slaver. You put them on a neutral shore with only basic supplies and cut them loose.
tarrangar
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They were taken in battle, if they have made fiendish deals we can sacrifice them, and Duesal do want sacrifices.
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In other news:
It's Fullplate, and enchanted at that. I think it'd be a good suit of armor for Argo until we can give him an upgrade, and then after that we can either toss it at another Minotaur or one of the Stone Giants.
@Goldfish, according to DP this armor is CL 16 and requires Spell Resistance and Limited Wish to make.
It's Fullplate, and enchanted at that. I think it'd be a good suit of armor for Argo until we can give him an upgrade, and then after that we can either toss it at another Minotaur or one of the Stone Giants.
Goldfish
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I have no problem with that. Why not add giving it to him as part of your vote? We can go ahead and assign the Freedom of Movement ring to Richard, too. He'll just need to take off his Swarmbane Ring until we can make it slotless.
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[X] Accept the surrenders, Baella would wish you to
-[X] Write in terms (optional otherwise defaults to previous cases of capturing slaver ships)
--[X] Confiscate all riches, and living brass arms, armor, and prosthetics
-[X] Write in terms (optional otherwise defaults to previous cases of capturing slaver ships)
--[X] Confiscate all riches, and living brass arms, armor, and prosthetics
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I think Waymar has the Broken Link right now, he should keep it until Richard has a hand free.
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Done. It's not like we'll be facing many swarms out here in the first place.
Does he? I don't remember assigning it to anyone.
OK, things looks solid. Vote closed.
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[X] Duesal
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I wanted to give this some thought before replying.
The thing is, I ultimately fully agree with you. Westeros has fallen from the great goal to another item on the docket. Our recent successes in Essos and the shift to Planar politics, while Westeros is still struggling with simple magic, has seen to that.
So, with Westeros being at best a side-quest by now, why don't we just do it? What is exactly the horror scenario that could happen here? After this month, the Wildfyre under Kings Landing will have been dealt with. We are already trading potshots with the Lannisters and the Maesters. So what is the worst that could happen if one of our turned lords gets divined?
Assassination? Big deal. We still have a net gain if not every single one gets killed and ultimately, we don't have to care about them at all.
Increased Lannister activity against us? So?
So... why not?
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The only thing stopping us is that we want the Legions trained up and the Three Daughters under our thumb. But mainly the necessity of needing the Legions trained up.
Once that's done, and it should only be a few months at most, there is nothing Robert can do to stop us.
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The point was made long ago that the only thing in Westeros that can even try to force our hand is the loyalists being stupid and rebelling early.
And even that we could wait out at little cost.
So no, waiting for the Legion to be ready and the daughters settled and peaceful is a way to optimise, to get the most out of the conquest.
By no means a necessity.
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Nothing is a strict necessity.
That doesn't mean I don't want a full Legion to land with.
It's one thing to slap aside armies with just Viserys and the Companions, but the Legion is what we're going to use to bring the lands to order.
This aside, we've already got next month booked anyway. There's the Orb of Dragonkind (Red) to hunt down to make sure nobody else ever gets their hands on it, there's the conquest of Lys and Myr to finalize which I'm pretty sure is happening next month, etc.
Westeros isn't a sidequest, it's going to need its own dedicated action, possibly one for each kingdom if we're unlucky, and this is before we take into account the Lannisters, the Seven, the Fey, and the Devils.
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I didn't suggest to land without a Legion.
I meant we can just wait until we have one ready and all we loose are some stupid and overeager Lords.
Westeros can't force us to invade at their shedule.
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If we end up making a trophy to commemorate our victory over the whalers, it should look like this:
A Brass statue of an Efreeti noble, postrated at the feet of a mortal slave, his hands clutching the ends of the mortal's tunic, a supplicant expression on his face as he stares with an open mouth. At the feet of the statue lies a single inscription:
"Use me"
@Duesal
A Brass statue of an Efreeti noble, postrated at the feet of a mortal slave, his hands clutching the ends of the mortal's tunic, a supplicant expression on his face as he stares with an open mouth. At the feet of the statue lies a single inscription:
"Use me"
@Duesal
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But that's the point. If we go by the measure "can Robert stop us", then we are ready.
It would certainly be a lot easier if we have more Legions, Anti-Grav vessels and a bridge to Dorne, but all these things could achieve is making the campaign easier. There is no doubt about the winner anymore, just about the size of the pile of bodies necessary to get that into peoples skulls.
And take note, approaching other houses should be done ahead of the invasion so that they have time to prepare for it. Otherwise, they are even more useless then they already are. Neither would approaching those houses mean we have to kick off the invasion right now.
In the updated timetable, we will take Lys and Myr in two months. Right after that, we will fold Volantis, Mantarys and Tolos into our realm.
With the added recruitment from the Disputed Lands this month, we might get 2 or 3 legions trained up until then. We can further augment our forces by folding the Volantene army into the Legion and snatching up thousands of Unsullied like in Tyrosh.
We can, with a bit of shuffling and by exploiting pre-trained recruitment pools, field 6 to 8 Legions in as little as five months.
That's 60,000 to 80,000 men under arms.
To that come 30,000 Dornish, I would guess 10,000 to 20,000 Valemen if Bronze Jon is doing good work. The forces of Tolos and Mantarys should probably stay were they are and defend the eastern borders, but we may or may not get Braavos to lend a hand.
Oh yeah. And we have Viserys "I like the smell of burning armies in the morning" Targaryen. Lya and Dany could do quite tremendous damage with the right load-outs.
If we take a gamble, we can call a kingsmoot in the Iron Isles, murder everything Drowny there and then plant Asha on the throne to add the Ironborn to our forces. They sure as hell will like the sound of raiding Lannisport.
So yeah. We got that one in the bag.
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I dunno, Rodrick the Reader is a cool guy and it would probably be simple to convince him to swear fealty and put Asha in charge. Let's talk to him first before we do anything drastic, unless I'm mistaken and someone else rules the Iron Islands.
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Rodrick is only a regent. There has been no Kingsmoot called and no new Lord Paramount crowned after Balon bit the dust and Theon was nowhere to be found. The idea was to foster Asha in Winterfell until a good noble materialized to rule the place with her as a puppet, thus eradicating the Greyjoy line entirely.
So, yeah. Definitely talk to him, since he isn't legally able to stop Asha from being crowned and I have sincere doubts if he would even be willing to do so.
Edit: He is, in fact, one of the people we should really talk to soonish, since murdering a bunch of Drowny priests is a good B-Party mission. Especially our Erinyes would fit there, what with Greater Teleport at will letting them cover a lot of ground.
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