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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Sep 6, 2018 at 3:39 AM, finished with 223843 posts and 17 votes.
  • [X] Goldfish
    [X] Plan Loot and Plunder MK II
    -[X] Prisoners
    --[X] Load the prisoners on Baella and have Richard, Dany, and Waymar guard them for now. They are to treat the Fire Whale with the utmost respect.
    ---[X] Diplomance the prisoners (renewing Air of Nobility and Voice of the Dragon, if necessary, and using a Grand Destiny charge and Divine Insight).
    ----[X] They are all welcome to join our service. Those who choose to remain in our service will never need to worry about being enslaved, for such practices are outlawed in our lands, and will be paid for their time and labor, as is right and proper, but remind them that while we reward loyalty, betrayal will make them wish for a fate so kind as being converted into Living Brass. We will check the trustworthiness of those who wish to join us using Detect Thoughts and Zone of Truth.
    ----[X] Those who do not wish to join us, or who we find untrustworthy, will be dropped off on the nearest bit of solid shoreline, with their weapons and armor so long as it is non-magical, and any food or water they can salvage from the ships, then allowed to make their own way.
    ----[X] The one exception to this is the Azer who can maintain the Lightning Cannons. He will be brought to Sorcerer's Deep to teach us what he knows about them, unless he proves untrustworthy. Once that is done, he too can either be dropped off at a location of his choosing or enter our service. He will be well rewarded for his time. If he is found untrustworthy, he will instead be subjected to Baleful Polymorph to transform him into a turtle until we can extract the knowledge from him.
    -----[X] All crew members who decide to enter our service and pass the initial vetting process, along with the Lightning Cannon operating Azer, will be interviewed more thoroughly by Malarys using prepared Brain Spider spells while operating under the effects of Owl's Insight spells cast by Lya, who has boosted her Divine caster level to 15 using a combination of Harmonic Chorus and Moment of Greatness. This will increase his Wisdom score to 30 and his Brain Spider save DC to 27.
    -[X] Ships
    --[X] Viserys casts Ant-Haul, uses his Muleback Cords, and borrows Tyenes Boots of the Wide Earth, while using his strongest Draconic form in order to Plane Shift each ship to Sorcerer's Deep. Place them in a clear area near the keep, starting with the damaged vessel.
    ---[X] Before using Plane Shift, Varys combs the ships with her Mindsight to make sure nobody his hiding anywhere.
    --[X] The ships will be guarded by a contingent of Legion soldiers, rotating squads of Minotaurs, and any advanced Scholarium students Teana believes are up to the task. An Iron Archer Golem will also remain on site.
    --[X] The corpses on the ships will be gathered separately. Take the skulls of all mages, Efreeti and anyone who looks like an officer or mage. The bodies are to be processed by the Fungus Forge.
    --[X] Before departing Sorcerer's Deep, Viserys has Lya or Vee heal his Charisma damage.
    -[X] Rest
    --[X] Once everything is done and the remaining prisoners dropped off, find a random location far from any settlement or trade route, and with no signs of nearby animal activity, for Dany to Dreamcast Rope Trick to create a comfortable space for everyone to rest. In anticipation of potential retaliatory attacks, Viserys uses the magic bedroll to rapidly recover his spells, then assume his True Dragon form in order to patrol the area around the Rope Trick portal and to keep Baella company. This will also insure the Sending Stone we left with Yrten is able to reach us, otherwise their is a 5% chance it would not pass the message into the extradimensional space created by Rope Trick.
    ---[X] When Dany prepares her spells, rather than selecting two 4th level Hypothermia spells, she prepares just one, along with a Dismissal spell.
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Deliste said:
Littlefinger Digs His Own Grave

Step 1: Send Robert or Cersei a private message in a public manner. Raven etc. Content doesn't matter but we should amuse ourselves.
Step 2: Tag Littlefinger with Aristocrat's Nightmare.
Step 3: Popcorn.
Step 4: Profit.

Rinse and repeat with anyone who relies on bribes, inject some excitement to get them chasing information and watch them burn a thousand bridges.
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The Curse of Hilarity has struck again. This is Insightful damnit.
 
tarrangar said:
I don't think Littlefinger personally touch that much gold, most of the time he mainly work with the papers the gold is counted on.
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Leaving a paper trail is a terrible idea when you're after sensitive information from people who shouldn't be speaking to you. It's a lot easier for the recipient to verify and claim too, not like they have much recourse if he defaults. Gold is Gold though...right :evil:
 
Deliste said:
Leaving a paper trail is a terrible idea when you're after sensitive information from people who shouldn't be speaking to you. It's a lot easier for the recipient to verify and claim too, not like they have much recourse if he defaults. Gold is Gold though...right :evil:
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Yeah but how much of his bribery do Littlefinger do personally, he do have underlings he trust, so most of the lower level bribery is probably done by them, and after the first few times gold turn to copper for him, Littlefinger will just get a pair of gloves, or if that don't work will choose his most trustworthy subordinate to do the actual touching of money for him.

Littlefinger is not poor, he can afford to lose those few hundred gold that would become copper easily.
 
tarrangar said:
Yeah but how much of his bribery do Littlefinger do personally, he do have underlings he trust, so most of the lower level bribery is probably done by them, and after the first few times gold turn to copper for him, Littlefinger will just get a pair of gloves, or if that don't work will choose his most trustworthy subordinate to do the actual touching of money for him.

Littlefinger is not poor, he can afford to lose those few hundred gold that would become copper easily.
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Both Varys and Littlefinger do plenty of legwork, you can't accuse them of lazyness.

In somewhere like KL you pay people to bring you information, an ongoing transactional relationship.

Littlefinger having plenty of money is entirely beside the point, I could care less how much gold he loses, it's the trust that matters. If your gold doesn't spend your informants won't inform.

And they won't give a shit if he can prove he was cursed, they aren't friends, the outcome is the same, they risked life and limb for copper while expecting gold.
 
We didnt happen to save a piece of the Ymeri!Hearttree? Might have been useful to figure out fire proof weirwood damn...
 
Deliste said:
Littlefinger Digs His Own Grave

Step 1: Send Robert or Cersei a private message in a public manner. Raven etc. Content doesn't matter but we should amuse ourselves.
Step 2: Tag Littlefinger with Aristocrat's Nightmare.
Step 3: Popcorn.
Step 4: Profit.

Rinse and repeat with anyone who relies on bribes, inject some excitement to get them chasing information and watch them burn a thousand bridges.
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This might make someone without the right connections entirely inconsequential if they're "pay-to-win" type foes, like the Crime Lord in @Azel's omakes. It is believable that he might have trouble getting a curse-breaker in SD's environs willing to deal with him given his openly two-faced reputation and the LEO's general contempt of him as a whole. But theoretically even he could cut a deal with some entity due to desperation + ambition being a perfect combination for such things. It's a level 2 spell, though, and in a High Magic society even less likely to force such desperate measures.

For someone like Baelish though? I guarantee you he's got something worked out, depending on what threat vector he's operating on. If he's going it his own way like canon, then he probably has a few semi-reliable sources of curse-breaking, though this in the laughably unlikely scenario category because he would be cat in a paper bag rather than threatening politically or otherwise.

If he's some kind of fiend pawn then he could just request a little help from his handler.

It would create a minor embarrassing kerfuffle at best.

Edit: Also if the entire scheme is reliant on following him around and reapplying the spell, it becomes more and more likely that it'll just be accounted for. "I touch gold, gold turns to coppers. I now must take paranoid measures to ensure my gold does not come into contact with me, that whoever is cursing me doesn't know which intermediary I use each day to make payments for anything" etc. And so on and so forth.

People who don't use their sociability or their muscles to beat people but are through-and-through schemers because that's all they can do are twisty-thinky like that naturally.
 
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Fehu said:
Might have been useful to figure out fire proof weirwood damn...
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I think we should go all-out on such a research and make variations of Heart Trees for all environments.

Asking our Shaitan friends for a crystalline tree.
Looking for sufficiently tree-like plants in PoW when we go there with Relath.

Not to set any up, for now.
We don't yet have the capabilities to protect them outside PoB, nor sacrifices in such an amount.

Just to have one on hand if an opportunity is provided.

...on second thought, I'm sure Shaitan of all people will see the usefulness such partners as Old Gods have.
 
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Crake said:
@Duesal Want to work with me later to audit the front page for anything missing since last turn? Magic items seem to be the main culprit. The "Subjects" section is missing a thing or two, too, I'm sure.

Big part that's always a mess unless you go in and completely format the sheet are a PC's items equipped. I helped out a little there earlier.
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While you're at it, can you also track down where the two Whispering Braziers we made a couple months ago were intended to go? I think I asked @Azel about it, but I can't remember his answer and I don't think they were ever properly assigned.

Also, we made four statues of Magecraft and four of Crafter's Fortune. A pair of each statue was supposed to be placed in our manufactories to enhance the craftspeople working in them (+10 bonus to their Craft checks), but I don't think they were every properly assigned. I know one pair is supposed to go the the Alchemy Laboratory, but cannot recall the other three pairs. @Azel?
 
Goldfish said:
While you're at it, can you also track down where the two Whispering Braziers we made a couple months ago were intended to go? I think I asked @Azel about it, but I can't remember his answer and I don't think they were ever properly assigned.

Also, we made four statues of Magecraft and four of Crafter's Fortune. A pair of each statue was supposed to be placed in our manufactories to enhance the craftspeople working in them (+10 bonus to their Craft checks), but I don't think they were every properly assigned. I know one pair is supposed to go the the Alchemy Laboratory, but cannot recall the other three pairs. @Azel?
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See my infrastructure threadmark. Everything is accounted for.

The two braziers for example went to Tyrosh.
 
Deliste said:
Both Varys and Littlefinger do plenty of legwork, you can't accuse them of lazyness.

In somewhere like KL you pay people to bring you information, an ongoing transactional relationship.

Littlefinger having plenty of money is entirely beside the point, I could care less how much gold he loses, it's the trust that matters. If your gold doesn't spend your informants won't inform.

And they won't give a shit if he can prove he was cursed, they aren't friends, the outcome is the same, they risked life and limb for copper while expecting gold.
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The transformation only take 1 minute, it's unlikely that it wont be noticed before they even leave him, which mean he can just get them the proper amount of money without touching, especially since he will be loading that purse up with gold earlier in the day, before going around and using it to bribe people, which mean he will notice it while trying to bribe people, which just mean he has to apologize and go get the proper amount of money.

The spell isn't that good for screwing his rep up, if it took a day for the gold to transform it would be different, but with only a minutes delay, he will at most lose 1 spy.
 
@Azel What's the progress on the roads/bridges so far? And what day did they start?

The full plan says it will take almost two years, but when we got the first update of progress we'd already finished the first bridge connecting Tyrosh and Essos, and quite a bit of road... but we also have multiple Titan's Tools. Was that factored into how long it would take, or is each segment only factoring use of one tool and the "Time until completion" tracks more how many manhours is required?
 
tarrangar said:
The transformation only take 1 minute, it's unlikely that it wont be noticed before they even leave him, which mean he can just get them the proper amount of money without touching, especially since he will be loading that purse up with gold earlier in the day, before going around and using it to bribe people, which mean he will notice it while trying to bribe people, which just mean he has to apologize and go get the proper amount of money.

The spell isn't that good for screwing his rep up, if it took a day for the gold to transform it would be different, but with only a minutes delay, he will at most lose 1 spy.
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Crake said:
This might make someone without the right connections entirely inconsequential if they're "pay-to-win" type foes, like the Crime Lord in @Azel's omakes. It is believable that he might have trouble getting a curse-breaker in SD's environs willing to deal with him given his openly two-faced reputation and the LEO's general contempt of him as a whole. But theoretically even he could cut a deal with some entity due to desperation + ambition being a perfect combination for such things. It's a level 2 spell, though, and in a High Magic society even less likely to force such desperate measures.

For someone like Baelish though? I guarantee you he's got something worked out, depending on what threat vector he's operating on. If he's going it his own way like canon, then he probably has a few semi-reliable sources of curse-breaking, though this in the laughably unlikely scenario category because he would be cat in a paper bag rather than threatening politically or otherwise.

If he's some kind of fiend pawn then he could just request a little help from his handler.

It would create a minor embarrassing kerfuffle at best.

Edit: Also if the entire scheme is reliant on following him around and reapplying the spell, it becomes more and more likely that it'll just be accounted for. "I touch gold, gold turns to coppers. I now must take paranoid measures to ensure my gold does not come into contact with me, that whoever is cursing me doesn't know which intermediary I use each day to make payments for anything" etc. And so on and so forth.

People who don't use their sociability or their muscles to beat people but are through-and-through schemers because that's all they can do are twisty-thinky like that naturally.
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Don't expect it to stick, don't expect him not to be able to acquire a curse breaker and I don't expect him not to wear gloves etc.

People talk and if he paid me once and it turned to copper I certainly wouldn't be accepting an apology and another payment. I'd take my pay in goods and never deal with him again.

I don't believe the "spies" he deals with would be any more forgiving or understanding.
 
Crake said:
@Azel What's the progress on the roads/bridges so far? And what day did they start?

The full plan says it will take almost two years, but when we got the first update of progress we'd already finished the first bridge connecting Tyrosh and Essos, and quite a bit of road... but we also have multiple Titan's Tools. Was that factored into how long it would take, or is each segment only factoring use of one tool and the "Time until completion" tracks more how many manhours is required?
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We started using the TItan's Tool on the 1st day of last month. The original plan was going to take almost two years, but that was when we only had one set of tools, not three.

Here's what I had figured up for the first month of use, going from the 1st to the 30th of the 4th month. Only six days have passed since then.
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It's weird to quote myself, but it's time to come back to my earlier post from this morning now that DP has confirmed the Titan's Tools have been going full bore on the road and bridge project since the first of the month.

At the end of this month, that will be 30 days for one set of tools, 12 days for another, and 7 days for the set that had to be diverted to do work on the Snare. 49 effective days of construction time.

If you look at @Azel's Infrastructure Page and check out the Imperial Roads and Bridges section, you can see that we've already made excellent progress. The picture is a great visual aid, BTW.

By the end of this month we will have built a 27 kilometer bridge linking the island of Tyrosh to the Essosi mainland and laid 381 kilometers of excellent roads along the western coast of the Disputed Lands, aiming toward the small peninsula closest to Sorcerer's Deep. That took not quite 45 days of work. The last 4 days and change have been spent on the 33 kilometer bridge to Last Refuge and a short 41 kilometer section of roadway which we will then link to Sorcerer's Deep with a 50 kilometer bridge. Overlooking the cost of the Titan's Tools themselves, that 27 km bridge and 381 km of roads have only cost us 3,251 IM.

Now that we have three sets of tools, the entire project should be completed in less than seven months. :)
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Azel said:
Ah, sorry. Could you give me a write-up for them? Then I will add them tomorrow evening.

I keep telling you that three sets went to our industries and one set to the alchemists.
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I keep forgetting to do the write-ups. Will try to remember them after I get off work today.

I know one went to the Alchemists and three to other industries, but which industries? That's what we need to know.
 
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