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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 5, 2018 at 5:47 AM, finished with 186549 posts and 23 votes.

  • [X] Plan Not Repeating Past Mistakes
    -[X] You have learned your lesson from indulging Relath for things like this. Tell Amrelath to destroy the Bonestorms.
    -[X] Speak to the Red Priests
    --[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
    -[X] Assist Group 2
    [X] Plan Focus
    -[X] Let Amrealth keep them.
    -[X] Go speak with the Red Priests.
    --[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
    [X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
 
There's a very easy way to contain non-sentient undeads you know? Bloodwish Ancestral Awakening, select command undead as the spell we get, command them to stand still, and stoneshape a prison around them, then we can collect them later.

So who's up for containing the Bonestorms this way? They will be under our control for days, and there's nothing that break the charm effect in putting them in a box.

Command Undead :: d20srd.org
 
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[x] Offer Amrelath 1000 gold for the Bonestorms.
-[x] Bloodwish Ancestral Awakening and select Command Undead :: d20srd.org as the spell learned.
--[x] command the Bonestorms to stand still.
---[x] fabricate a box around them so no one break our control by attacking them.
 
There's a very easy way to contain non-sentient undeads you know? Bloodwish Ancestral Awakening, select command undead as the spell we get, command them to stand still, and stoneshape a prison around them, then we can collect them later.

So who's up for containing the Bonestorms this way? They will be under our control for days, and there's nothing that break the charm effect in putting them in a box.

Command Undead :: d20srd.org

We've already used Ancestral Awakening when we had to disguise Amrelath's true nature after the glamor was Dispelled. Blood Wishing it won't change that.

Of course, we could simply Blood Wish a Command Undead spell if we're willing to waste the spell slot, but that doesn't really solve our PR issues on this matter.

You're also risking further splitting the vote when we've got a narrow consensus.
 
We've already used Ancestral Awakening when we had to disguise Amrelath's true nature after the glamor was Dispelled. Blood Wishing it won't change that.

Of course, we could simply Blood Wish a Command Undead spell, but that doesn't really solve our PR issues on this matter. You're also risking further splitting the vote when we've got a narrow consensus.
Damn it, I didn't remember we had already used Ancestral Awakening.
 
[X] Plan Focus
-[X] Let Amrealth keep them.
-[X] Go speak with the Red Priests.
--[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
 
Seriously. What is the logic behind letting the swarm of human bones waltz through the city?

What the hell do you guys think you will achieve by showing blatantly horrifying magic to frightened peasants?

DP even confirmed that Amrelath is fine with destroying them, since he knows full well that he can't keep or contain them.
 
In unrelated news, how badass was it when we used our fire breath that burned so hot, it burned magic itself?

In this setting, that's like having fire so hot that it burned the laws of physics!
 
In the future we should try to reserve Ancestral Awakening for Command undead, when fighting an enemy with a lot of undead minions, the spell last for weeks, and even if they are intelligent we just need to win a charisma check, and we can give them any not suicidal or obviously harmful orders, stand in that corner, and only attack if you get attacked first, is definitely counted under what we are allowed to tell them to do, and in the case of non-intelligent undeads, we can even build boxes around them and collect them one at a time that way, but command undead, is an easy way to get undeads to just stand there, until we have defeated their masters and refreshed our spellslots.

[X] Azel
Seriously. What is the logic behind letting the swarm of human bones waltz through the city?

What the hell do you guys think you will achieve by showing blatantly horrifying magic to frightened peasants?

DP even confirmed that Amrelath is fine with destroying them, since he knows full well that he can't keep or contain them.
Sorry I'm behind on reading the comments, I didn't know DP had confirmed that Amrelath is fine with destroying them.
 
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Seriously. What is the logic behind letting the swarm of human bones waltz through the city?

What the hell do you guys think you will achieve by showing blatantly horrifying magic to frightened peasants?

DP even confirmed that Amrelath is fine with destroying them, since he knows full well that he can't keep or contain them.
So we can control undead.

It's no big deal we command every other kind of magic, why pretend not to use Necromancy?
 
So we can control undead.

It's no big deal we command every other kind of magic, why pretend not to use Necromancy?
DP has made it abundantly clear that it is a problem. Controlling undead or even just associating with them is widely seen as Evil and will make people panic. They are also tainting their surroundings with Negative Energy and weakening the planar fabric.

Just because you think it shouldn't be an issue doesn't mean that it isn't. You are trying to wreck our reputation out of denial of a fact you don't like.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 5, 2018 at 6:59 AM, finished with 186562 posts and 25 votes.

  • [X] Plan Not Repeating Past Mistakes
    -[X] You have learned your lesson from indulging Relath for things like this. Tell Amrelath to destroy the Bonestorms.
    -[X] Speak to the Red Priests
    --[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
    -[X] Assist Group 2
    [X] Plan Focus
    -[X] Let Amrealth keep them.
    -[X] Go speak with the Red Priests.
    --[X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
    [X] Thank them for offering to help, but decline. We've always fought against slavery, they can rest assured we are bringing freedom for all. Unfortunately, the sudden influx of troops might cause chaos, so we'd rather they stay out.
 
DP has made it abundantly clear that it is a problem. Controlling undead or even just associating with them is widely seen as Evil and will make people panic. They are also tainting their surroundings with Negative Energy and weakening the planar fabric.
Yes, but if we never get started on it we will never manage to turn that reputation around.
What better place than letting undead help our soldiers and kill daemons?
Will we get a better chance to even start on working on public opinion of undead at some point in the future? Or will the people caring more about reputation than having another branch of magic available keep blocking it again and again?

As for the latter part, you know that's not a big deal right now. We didn't make these things, they are far less than the Dracolich and the only difference is wether they exist for another quarter hour. That will not exactly do any serious damage to our plane.
 
Yes, but if we never get started on it we will never manage to turn that reputation around.
What better place than letting undead help our soldiers and kill daemons?
Will we get a better chance to even start on working on public opinion of undead at some point in the future? Or will the people caring more about reputation than having another branch of magic available keep blocking it again and again?

As for the latter part, you know that's not a big deal right now. We didn't make these things, they are far less than the Dracolich and the only difference is wether they exist for another quarter hour. That will not exactly do any serious damage to our plane.
Personally I don't think it's even worth the effort, but if you want to push for it, do so at home, not in recently conquered territory that is already terrified by the fiendish things we will do to them.
 
[X] Azel

I still dislike an entire book of interesting magic and creatures just lying in the corner.
We'll get to the Liber Mortis. Sooner or later.
 
Interlude CCXLII: Seer in Darkness
Seer in Darkness

Twenty-Seventh Day of the Second Month 293 AC

Waymar Royce was not by his nature one much given to introspection or questioning tradition, but as he descended the narrow steps deeper into the defiled catacombs, careful not to step upon the blood and other foul effluvia of the living dead, he could not help but wonder if preserving the dead was truly worth it in this new world, or perhaps better to say this old world come again. Surely an engraved plaque with name and deeds could serve just as well... and it would be much harder for all manner of horrors to bend that to their foul use.

"Anything down there?" Tyene asked, not bothering to keep her voice down any more. If anything down here had failed to realize that there were foes about then it must be blind, deaf, and witless. Veiled in flame and bearing light they descended into these tainted tunnels.

A guttural howl, utterly bestial for all it may have come from a human throat, echoed down the corridor as though in answer to the question.

"I think that's a yes," Waymar replied, moving quickly forward so he could brace properly for the inevitable charge. None of the creatures they had faced down here so far had been any sort of challenge on their own, but when they charged it was as a wave of ravening flesh.

Though he would never admit it to her it still felt odd to have Tyene next to him to meet the flesh rather than somewhere behind raining magic down on the foe. That she was capable he did not doubt, and unlike Malarys she wore full true-silver plate that would be the envy of many a knight. However, some impulse born of times gone by when the world had been a simpler thing, or seemed to at least, rebelled against the notion of asking any lady to wade into battle bloody weapon in hand, much less his beloved.

Then the time for wandering thoughts came to a sudden close as the the howls grew ever louder... The foe was upon them again, those already dead mixed with the poor wretches that had still to fully succumb to their taint though they had been warped into hideous, tortured forms, new limbs grown at odd angles, mouths widened into great gashes filled with hooked teeth and other mockeries of the human form. They ran, they scampered, and their crawled to their doom. Tongues of fire licked at tainted flesh, the blade in Waymar's hand sang with every strike, reaping them by twos and threes with each blow.

"Ware, behind!" the voice of the crow spirit who had been pouring crossbow bolts into the horde reached Waymar's ears an instant before he saw the shadow looming over him where there had been none before.

A hunched shambling figure cloaked in filthy rags stood there, its face a thing of nightmare. Bulging wet eyes covered every inch of its skin, a tongue hanging from its slack jaw.


Somehow it spoke, its voice a revolting gurgle, seemingly unconcerned as bolts of arcane light from Xor's lesser eyes rained down upon it: "You who are unseen, I will take your eyes!" He could just make out as its tongue lashed at Waymar's face. He had never been quite so grateful for the living shield that flashed between them and catching the foul appendage, now alight from the corona of flames that swirled around them all.

Even as Waymar raised his sword to strike back Malarys stepped forward and with sure and unhurried motions smote the thing with an upwelling of light meant to heal the living and set the dead to rest.

Lightning danced across its corrupt flesh as edged bronze ripped it asunder, yet still it spat once final curse at the mage-lord. "Ashes be thy grave!"

Rivulets of blood and bile began to flow from the ancient sorcerer's eyes, yet he seemed more angry than hurt as he turned back to the hoard of lesser foes, sword in hand.

OOC: For anyone wondering how that monster took so many actions before it died, it had quicken spell-like ability Dimension Door, then it tried to lick Waymar on its surprise round, during which only it, the spyglass Archon, and Xor could act, and finally it cast Finger of Death at Malarys on its proper initiative order. I just fudged things a bit narratively to get the fight to flow properly.
 
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By the way, looking for items and this looks fitting for us:
@Artemis1992, this looks great and wonderfully thematic, but also really hard to pull off. Not only do the materials need to come from five different chromatics instead of just cheating and using our Tiamat Aspect for it, but it needs a CL 18 Sorcerer specifically to make it? How on earth do we pull that off? Maybe DP will let us have Lya do it?
 
i might as well weigh in here. In Viserys' opinion Amrelath will not be too upset over loosing the soon to be uncontrollable undead. If it were something he could cage for later use he would probably be more so, but with the bonestorms he's asking in case you feel like being generous for the oportunity cost of what they might kill.
OH, alright then.

Here's for the sake of consensus:
[X] Azel

@Azel I highly doubt anyone will see anything considering it's the darkest hour of the night, it's pouring down a storm, and they are in the middle of an invasion.

There aren't people with iPhones recording in broad daylight.
 
Nice, they're going up against the cultists who have the inhuman features. They haven't spent all their strength already. Plenty of XP to go around.

@DragonParadox, can we do a final tally on the skulls we collect afterwards?
 
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