Bright spot in the wake of slaughtering all the sacrifices:
Treasure standard (+1 composite longbow, other treasure)
That's the minimum of what every Leukodaemon should have. We have a nice stockpile for future Heart Trees building up. The archon-bone knife is already powerful enough to basically grow its own Tier-3 Heart Tree, so these bows can be put towards other trees. Getting started on the Dawn Fruit Mass Production Tree would be nice.
 
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Man, watching Avengers on IMAX is probably mind blowing.

As it is, it was pretty good, but the sheer shitiness of the cinema detracted from it. Sound was horribly placed and low, screen small enough I had to squint to read the subs (not that I needed them, but still).

Unfortunately, Miss Marvel is, apparently, someone created by people who thought superman is underpowered.

And fucking Peter Quill. Angry or no, that was ridiculous. Stark should have punched him out, or spider webbed him. It'd take a second and save the universe.

Still, Thanos was great, Stark finally has an armour that doesn't fall apart at a stiff breeze and was all around awesome, Thor only got better after Ragnarok, and is a contender for MVP.
 
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Man, watching Avengers on IMAX is probably mind blowing.

As it is, it was pretty good, but the sheer shitiness of the cinema detracted from it. Sound was horribly placed and low, screen small enough I had to squint to read the subs (not that I needed them, but still).

Unfortunately, Miss Marvel is, apparently, someone created by people who thought superman is underpowered.

And fucking Peter Quill. Angry or no, that was ridiculous. Stark should have punched him out, or spider webbed him. It'd take a second and save the universe.

Still, Thanos was great, Stark finally has an armour that doesn't fall apart at a stiff breeze and was all around awesome, Thor only got better after Ragnarok, and is a contender for MVP.
Agreed, Peter Quill was ridiculous. I was hoping at some point in the movie the guilt would come crashing down on him that he was the reason Thanos got away, but no. He got erased before then. -_- There were two things that would have saved the universe from Thanos -- Peter Quill not being a moron and actually going through with the plan he thought up, or Thor aiming for Thanos' head with his new hammer/axe instead of chucking the weapon at Thanos' chest.
 
Agreed, Peter Quill was ridiculous. I was hoping at some point in the movie the guilt would come crashing down on him that he was the reason Thanos got away, but no. He got erased before then. -_- There were two things that would have saved the universe from Thanos -- Peter Quill not being a moron and actually going through with the plan he thought up, or Thor aiming for Thanos' head with his new hammer/axe instead of chucking the weapon at Thanos' chest.
To be fair, Thor just fucking beat the guy pumping out the power of the six Infinity Stones. That he got the heart is good enough, really. Hell, he might have been aiming head, but Thanos didn't exactly make it easy.

I thought Thanos was going to say "should have gone for the hand" tho :V

Really, Thor was downright Epic this movie, awesome in the original sense of the world. I felt like he was essentially beating him through the power of, for the lack of a better world, his legend. He made a saga out of it.

But of course, it's not like a bladed implement is going to win the day, it's Marvel. Swords get broken, daggers stab the owners. Fists win the day.

And on that note, Stark really deserves some praise here. He soloed Thanos when said purple fucker held four infinity stones. Just a freaking baseline human, with the suit of armour he built with his own two hands. No vibranium or adamantium, no mystic powers or Time Stone, no super serum, no nothing.

And he did all while stopping Thanos from closing his fist, with a leg literally stuck on the ground. His suit was amazing, versatile, nice to look at. He fought smartly, and really, really well. He had been nerfed essentially since Iron Man 1.

"A drop of blood" is pretty damn good when the other guy had beat The Hulk and Thor to a pulp when he had one stone, and is essentially running on god-mode and only needs to clench his fist to auto-win.

Poor Spidey, As always, he was great, and the dynamic between Spidey and Tony is one of the greatest things the MCU has going.

Wakanda breaking ranks was ridiculous, they have force field shields and sonic canons, why would they engage in GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT with hyper-murderous aliens? It's one thing to fix bayonets if you are about to be overrun, it's another to charge like the your Comissar is from Krieg.

Anyway, it's fairly easy to tell how the next one will go: Get Miss Mary Sue, beat the shit out of Thanos as the gauntlet is toast, get the stones to the prototype/mold back at the Forge, hit undo.

I wait to see how Tony gets when it's personal.
 
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To be fair, Thor just fucking beat the guy pumping out the power of the six Infinity Stones. That he got the heart is good enough, really. Hell, he might have been aiming head, but Thanos didn't exactly make it easy.

I thought Thanos was going to say "should have gone for the hand" tho :V

Really, Thor was downright Epic this movie, awesome in the original sense of the world. I felt like he was essentially beating him through the power of, for the lack of a better world, his legend. He made a saga out of it.

But of course, it's not like a bladed implement is going to win the day, it's Marvel. Swords get broken, daggers stab the owners. Fists win the day.

And on that note, Stark really deserves some praise here. He soloed Thanos when said purple fucker held four infinity stones. Just a freaking baseline human, with the suit of armour he built with his own two hands. No vibranium or adamantium, no mystic powers or Time Stone, no super serum, no nothing.

And he did all while stopping Thanos from closing his fist, with a leg literally stuck on the ground. His suit was amazing, versatile, nice to look at. He fought smartly, and really, really well. He had been nerfed essentially since Iron Man 1.

"A drop of blood" is pretty damn good when the other guy had beat The Hulk and Thor to a pulp when he had one stone, and is essentially running on god-mode and only needs to clench his fist to auto-win.

Poor Spidey, As always, he was great, and the dynamic between Spidey and Tony is one of the greatest things the MCU has going.

Wakanda breaking ranks was ridiculous, they have force field shields and sonic canons, why would they engage in GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT with hyper-murderous aliens? It's one thing to fix bayonets if you are about to be overrun, it's another to charge like the your Comissar is from Krieg.

Anyway, it's fairly easy to tell how the next one will go: Get Miss Mary Sue, beat the shit out of Thanos as the gauntlet is toast, get the stones to the prototype/mold back at the Forge.

I wait to see how Tony gets when it's personal.
Thor definitely didn't disappoint in this movie. Here's where he really shined and showed us why he's a god. In previous movies he was more or less depicted as supernaturally strong with lightning powers, but not much more than that. Now he took the full power of a fucking star in the process of forging his new hammer. He annihilated anything that stood in his way that wasn't Thanos. And yeah, even if the new hammer doesn't win the day, it was still awesome to see Thor let loose with it.

Stark was incredible, hands down. I love how each movie just increases the effectiveness of his suits at a ridiculous rate. Remember his first suit having icing problems at high altitudes? Now he has fucking nanotech which he can use to do almost anything. And god did he use that suit. He gave Thanos a hell of a fight, and earned every bit of respect that Thanos ended up giving him. He's improved a whole lot, too. In the early movies he was a tech genius with an iron suit but who didn't quite know how to fight and just let his suit do most of the work. Now it's like breathing for him, literally an instinct.

And speaking of Hulk... Holy hell that was frustrating. Granted, Hulk probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference overall, but it's the principle of it. He just refused to help at all. I'm seriously wondering what Heimdall saw that Hulk specifically needed to be beamed down to Earth rather than Thor or Loki.

Yeah, I loved Spider Man too. Great suit, great fights, likable character, etc. I loved that father-figure dynamic Tony had with him, and the kid being erased while in Tony's arms actually made me more mad than anything else in the movie. I have a feeling that more than anything is what will fuel Tony's rage. You're right, it truly is personal now, and on a scale I never conceived of before. Way back in the first Avenger's movie Tony said if they couldn't protect Earth then they'd damn well avenge it. Now's the time.
 
Perhaps not.

What a ridiculous offer by Yrael, he has no idea who their families are.

What happens if we catch them raping and pillaging? Or turns out their Uncle is a genius in the torture trade.

Archons :facepalm:

You have Teleport, use it to stab them.
It's not so bad.
They'll be save and under watch after surrendering, Yrael promised nothing we wouldn't have there. The fact that they locked themselves up in the archives proves they aren't pillaging anything.

As for their families, they'll be secured as well as we can arrange during the invasion. Afterwards we'll see what happens, such a promise of safety can't last forever and regardless of circumstances after all.
I'm rather sure an Archon would not let his word be abused to prevent murderers or rapists from facing justice, he has been on Planetos for a while now and isn't stupid.
 
Thor definitely didn't disappoint in this movie. Here's where he really shined and showed us why he's a god. In previous movies he was more or less depicted as supernaturally strong with lightning powers, but not much more than that. Now he took the full power of a fucking star in the process of forging his new hammer. He annihilated anything that stood in his way that wasn't Thanos. And yeah, even if the new hammer doesn't win the day, it was still awesome to see Thor let loose with it.

Stark was incredible, hands down. I love how each movie just increases the effectiveness of his suits at a ridiculous rate. Remember his first suit having icing problems at high altitudes? Now he has fucking nanotech which he can use to do almost anything. And god did he use that suit. He gave Thanos a hell of a fight, and earned every bit of respect that Thanos ended up giving him. He's improved a whole lot, too. In the early movies he was a tech genius with an iron suit but who didn't quite know how to fight and just let his suit do most of the work. Now it's like breathing for him, literally an instinct.

And speaking of Hulk... Holy hell that was frustrating. Granted, Hulk probably wouldn't have made that much of a difference overall, but it's the principle of it. He just refused to help at all. I'm seriously wondering what Heimdall saw that Hulk specifically needed to be beamed down to Earth rather than Thor or Loki.

Yeah, I loved Spider Man too. Great suit, great fights, likable character, etc. I loved that father-figure dynamic Tony had with him, and the kid being erased while in Tony's arms actually made me more mad than anything else in the movie. I have a feeling that more than anything is what will fuel Tony's rage. You're right, it truly is personal now, and on a scale I never conceived of before. Way back in the first Avenger's movie Tony said if they couldn't protect Earth then they'd damn well avenge it. Now's the time.

That's just it, it wasn't the Hulk that was needed. It was Bruce.
 
Way back in the first Avenger's movie Tony said if they couldn't protect Earth then they'd damn well avenge it. Now's the time.
I was just thinking that. Very, very fitting how they should finally be putting the very premise of their founding to use.

While Tony has been progressing nicely with his suit this entire time, with each "main" suit perfecting the last one's trick and incorporating it, like the super red lasers, or the micro bombs, in the previous films he really got handed the idiot balls, to make fights even.

Like that ridiculous thing with Captain America in Civil War (which was essentially another Avengers).
I think Hulk is traumatized. He's been given a hell of a lot more agency since Ragnarok, and here, it seems he was beaten badly enough that it stuck with him.

Thanos straight up overpowered him. It's one thing for Stark to get him punch-drunk while trying to make him calm down.

It's another for the now very self-aware hulk to get owned in a straight up fight. Over course, you can't overpower Thanks when he has the literal Power Stone, not if you can't make it impossible for him to activate the gauntlet, but Hulk isn't exactly a deep thinker, is he?

Anyway, the ending was also good. As some say, the movie is only as good as the villain, and Thanos checked all the boxes.
Hands-down the best Avengers movie.

Hell, it's probably the only good Avengers movie. The first one was entertaining but pretty generic, Ultron was just gimmicky, Civil War had everyone handed the idiot ball (seriously, "I know you saved the world, but..." is downright retarded) and felt as if there were no stakes at all, as the big fight was essentially Team Training. Hell, they end up making up by the end!

This, tho, had the best villain thus far (present enough to be sympathetic, he isn't a raving madman, his logic is as logical as it is insane), good fights, good pacing, managed to make most characters shine, and really brought out the best in a few of them.
 
That's just it, it wasn't the Hulk that was needed. It was Bruce.
Did they, tho?

I think, more importantly:
Loki had to die, to give Thor the motivation to go and forge Stormbreaker and to want Thanos dead.

Conveniently, Banner gave them warning, and probably helped mend bridges after the Civil War.

Of course, he had his own development and all, but still...

Anyway, another thing that's sorta dumb: those murder aliens just... aren't that tough. Does Wakanda have no defensive emplacements? The trickle of aliens that got through could easily have been stopped by something Marvel would never do, like a few tanks and machine gun nests.

Something like a second shield over the palace, or literally battering down the vibranium hatches would have done it.
 
Did they, tho?

I think, more importantly:
Loki had to die, to give Thor the motivation to go and forge Stormbreaker and to want Thanos dead.

Conveniently, Banner gave them warning, and probably helped mend bridges after the Civil War.

Of course, he had his own development and all, but still...

Anyway, another thing that's sorta dumb: those murder aliens just... aren't that tough. Does Wakanda have no defensive emplacements? The trickle of aliens that got through could easily have been stopped by something Marvel would never do, like a few tanks and machine gun nests.

Something like a second shield over the palace, or literally battering down the vibranium hatches would have done it.

I'm pretty sure that most of the stuff that makes you go "okay but why them?" has to do with the set-up for Part 2. Like taking out all the clowns, leaving only Rocket of the original Guardians, making sure everyone lost a really important friend. And Thor didn't even need to lose anyone specifically at the end of the film, he'd already lost everything, so his one chance to make it all right failed right before his eyes, proving that, as it turns out, there really was something more for him to lose.

Bruce is complaining the whole film about not being able to have the Hulk handle business, because that's what the Hulk does, but for once there is an enemy that cannot be smashed, making the Hulk just about the worst thing to bust out. But Bruce, another genius like Stark, before lamenting his circumstances, finally and seemingly prepared to embrace his status as trump card, can't seem to do his thing? Yeah, the sequel has something in store for him, something Loki or Thor wouldn't be able to do. Neither of whom are lacking in means to fight their enemies, whereas Bruce was struggling all film to stay relevant.
 
Saw it today, it was the good.

Loved Thanos funnily enough. Neutral Evil played to the hilt.

It was nice.
 
Saw it today, it was the good.

Loved Thanos funnily enough. Neutral Evil played to the hilt.

It was nice.
I wouldn't necessarily say Neutral Evil. Alignment can be weird sometimes. Remember that Bear Spirit in the Far North? It drags away the weak and the sick and eats them, and yet it's Lawful Good because it does all that in the name of preparing for the Long Night and making the wildlings strong enough to survive it. Lesser evils in the name of a greater good. Thanos here, deluded and insane as he is, works toward his genocide in the name of protecting life itself. I'm certainly not excusing his actions, but at the same time his ultimate motivation is what makes determining his alignment iffy. Neutral Evil would just be inflicting pain and suffering. Thanos actively strives to spare people that suffering... granted, by killing half of everything, but still. I'm leaning towards True Neutral more than anything. Noble goal of life flourishing, horrific means of culling the current population.
 
I wouldn't necessarily say Neutral Evil. Alignment can be weird sometimes. Remember that Bear Spirit in the Far North? It drags away the weak and the sick and eats them, and yet it's Lawful Good because it does all that in the name of preparing for the Long Night and making the wildlings strong enough to survive it. Lesser evils in the name of a greater good. Thanos here, deluded and insane as he is, works toward his genocide in the name of protecting life itself. I'm certainly not excusing his actions, but at the same time his ultimate motivation is what makes determining his alignment iffy. Neutral Evil would just be inflicting pain and suffering. Thanos actively strives to spare people that suffering... granted, by killing half of everything, but still. I'm leaning towards True Neutral more than anything. Noble goal of life flourishing, horrific means of culling the current population.
Indeed. I do like, and I hope we see in this quest as well.

How motivations can run somebody through the gauntlet of alignments all the way from good to evil, to law and chaos.

How far are you willing to go to "Fix" the world Viserys?
 
I'm pretty sure that most of the stuff that makes you go "okay but why them?" has to do with the set-up for Part 2. Like taking out all the clowns, leaving only Rocket of the original Guardians, making sure everyone lost a really important friend. And Thor didn't even need to lose anyone specifically at the end of the film, he'd already lost everything, so his one chance to make it all right failed right before his eyes, proving that, as it turns out, there really was something more for him to lose.

Bruce is complaining the whole film about not being able to have the Hulk handle business, because that's what the Hulk does, but for once there is an enemy that cannot be smashed, making the Hulk just about the worst thing to bust out. But Bruce, another genius like Stark, before lamenting his circumstances, finally and seemingly prepared to embrace his status as trump card, can't seem to do his thing? Yeah, the sequel has something in store for him, something Loki or Thor wouldn't be able to do. Neither of whom are lacking in means to fight their enemies, whereas Bruce was struggling all film to stay relevant.
Oh, I get what you are saying, and that absolutely sounds like what's in store for him. Bruce does need to happen as a character, but I was answering to "why send the hulk instead of Thor".

But let's be real, Marvel will proceed to essentially unmake what made this one so good: the consequences. There's a damn good reason they showed the prototype/mold of the Gauntlet.

Thanos' is toast, but still holds the stones. They will use the same all-powerful McGuffin to undo what Thanos used it for.

After all, Marvel can't kill Black Panther anymore than it can have guns working. They aren't racist, after all :rolleyes:
 
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Indeed. I do like, and I hope we see in this quest as well.

How motivations can run somebody through the gauntlet of alignments all the way from good to evil, to law and chaos.

How far are you willing to go to "Fix" the world Viserys?
World conquest will be a nice start. :D A plane-spanning empire under our total control.
 
Oh, I get what you are saying, and that absolutely sounds like what's in store for him. Bruce does need to happen as a character, but I was answering to "why send the hulk instead of Thor".

But let's be real, Marvel will proceed to essentially unmake what made this one so good: the consequences. There's a damn good reason they showed the prototype/mold of the Gauntlet.

Thanos' is toast, but still holds the stones. They will use the same all-powerful McGuffin to undo what Thanos used it for.

After all, Marvel can't kill Black Panther anymore than it can have guns working. They aren't racist, after all :rolleyes:

Psffhafhahfahahahaha.

So true it hurts.
 
I wonder why Trios and Burny arekeeping silent so far.

I was really hoping for an Aspect of R'hllor to appear and do something stupid, like attacking the most powerful undead in town (Amy).
 
Letting us do the heavy lifting before becoming pests.
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I wonder why Trios and Burny arekeeping silent so far.

I was really hoping for an Aspect of R'hllor to appear and do something stupid, like attacking the most powerful undead in town (Amy).
I figure they are acting as bastions of protection from the daemon rampage happening outside of their temples.
 
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