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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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DragonParadox said:
They really can't, after what they have been though. To give you an idea this might be a time for Heart's Ease.
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Well, It still doesnt take a King to keep them calm.
[X] Order a Squad of legionaries to keep them safe, as well as any other civilian that could be saved.
-[X] If any among them has any experience calming people after a tragedy they can make themselves useful here.
-[X] Go help Moonsong's party.
 
DragonParadox said:
They really can't, after what they have been though. To give you an idea this might be a time for Heart's Ease.
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We don't have Heart's Ease or anyone capable of casting it.
And certainly no Bloodwish to waste when we didn't even use it to save lifes before.

[X] Let the Legionaires protect the Archon's family and restore order in the palace. Priorities stay as ordered, securing these quarters, the archives and offices and the treasury.
-[X] Get the next report on the overall situation, if nothing more urgent shows up you wnad Richard reinforce the Legionaires north who don't have PC-backup already
 
DocMatoi said:
Anyway, we could res the mom, let her take over the kids, securing their loyalty for their future PCdom
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Fehu said:
Like @DocMatoi said, how about we resurrect their mother? Atleast save the body for a later raise dead when things have calmed.

Valyrian descended traumatized kids make great child-maegi. :V
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We can make them mages without rezing the mother, too. We just saved them from certain death. I'm just not seeing the value here. It might actually create more problems for us since the mother will get in the way of brainwashing, and also because we're not at the stage where we toss raise deads around like candy, we're still trying to keep that quiet.

[X] Artemis1992
 
DocMatoi said:
...suicide, maybe? Would traumatize the kids just fine, and makes the invading army not her problem any more
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From the description I doubt it was suicide, those tend to be, slightly cleaner.

As for the girls trauma, well, I can guess what that is but I just ate and I'd rather not lose my lunch. Paid good money for that.

We can rez the mother, maybe hit the kids with memory moss if their testimony isn't necessary for the trials. If nothing else we can at least take the edge off this horror if not completely mitigate it.
 
@das_slash
I'm pretty sure we have at least one group of soldiers in an area with no nearby PC-support holding back the daemons.
Those propably need reinforcements more than Moonsong, who already has more that a party's worth of firepower with her now that we send Lya and Dany there too.

@Azel Unless I'm remembering wrongly?
 
We could resurrect the Mom and put the kid in charge as the Lord-Paramount of Tyrosh. Sparing our opponents while making it very clear that Tyrosh is the first of many will be a message that will ring across the world. A great 'fuck you' to the Lannisters, and perhaps convincing opponents that surrender is an actual option.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
We can rez the mother, maybe hit the kids with memory moss if their testimony isn't necessary for the trials. If nothing else we can at least take the edge off this horror if not completely mitigate it.
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LonelyWolf999 said:
We could resurrect the Mom and put the kid in charge as the Lord-Paramount of Tyrosh. Sparing our opponents while making it very clear that Tyrosh is the first of many will be a message that will ring across the world. A great 'fuck you' to the Lannisters, and perhaps convincing opponents that surrender is an actual option.
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Let's not rez the mother. It's convenient that she's dead, we don't need to pile on more problems for ourselves.

Also, guys, seriously. We're not at the stage where we bring people back from the dead like it's nothing, we're making an effort to keep it quiet. This directly sabotages our own efforts on that front. At least with the White Harbor mage not many people are going to believe sailor's gossip of "He brought the captain back to life." "And I suppose angels came down from the heavens to bless him, then?"

And we are absolutely not letting them stay in charge. Not even if they had thrown open their gates from the start and surrendered peacefully. The new leadership of the city will be dictated by us.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
We could resurrect the Mom and put the kid in charge as the Lord-Paramount of Tyrosh. Sparing our opponents while making it very clear that Tyrosh is the first of many will be a message that will ring across the world. A great 'fuck you' to the Lannisters, and perhaps convincing opponents that surrender is an actual option.
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God no.

We want neither kids nor the former rulers in charge there. We are taking over to change things.
We'll be nice and give them some kind of future, but never as a ruler of Tyrosh, not when people can remember that their father ruled in his own right, back when Tyrosh was an independant city and everything [for the ruling class] was better.

That's poison for our future statebuilding.
 
das_slash said:
Well, It still doesnt take a King to keep them calm.
[X] Order a Squad of legionaries to keep them safe, as well as any other civilian that could be saved.
-[X] If any among them has any experience calming people after a tragedy they can make themselves useful here.
-[X] Go help Moonsong's party.
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You're missing the point. They're utterly traumatised, and also nobility that we actually probably want to keep alive. Consider that DP has said that this would definitely be a time for Heart's Ease, not that I'd intend on using it. Words should be enough whilst we get them to safety.

[X] Plan Orphan Security
-[X] Escort the children quickly back to the legion.
-[X] Make it clear on the way that you hold no ill will against them, and that they receive fair treatment as befits their station.
-[X] Order a detachment to keep them under guard and separate from the other civilians and surrendered soldiers.
-[X] Ensure that the soldiers guarding them know that they are not to be mistreated, and to be granted any reasonable requests given what they've just been through.
-[X] Teleport with Richard and Varys to reinforce the forces in the northern slums, where Daemon activity is expected to be heavy.

The reason for the separation from the others who've surrendered is that I don't want attempted mob justice, and after what they've been through (and the delicacy of their lives up to this point) throwing them in the commons rooms would be a terrible idea. It also gives a concrete gesture that we'll be true to our word.
 
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Should we ask where the Archon could have gone? Last thing we want is surprise demons showing up if we could have avoided it.

@DragonParadox I forget but we did deploy a few of the Iron Golems right?

[X] Snowfire
 
Duesal said:
And we are absolutely not letting them stay in charge. Not even if they had thrown open their gates from the start and surrendered peacefully. The new leadership of the city will be dictated by us.
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Fair enough.

I'm wasn't considering doing it for any political reason any way, just more along the lines of reducing the number of orphans in the world.

Still want to consider hitting the girls with memory moss if their testimony isn't necessary. We've got literal brain bleach on hand and I can think of no better reason to use it than to get rid of the damage that such, crimes, inevitably result in.

I know people who've dealt with shit like that, the trauma never goes completely away and if I can wipe that slate clean then I'm damn well going to.
 
Snowfire said:
You're missing the point. They're utterly traumatised, and also nobility that we actually probably want to keep alive. Consider that DP has said that this would definitely be a time for Heart's Ease, not that I'd intend on using it. Words should be enough whilst we get them to safety.

[X] Plan Orphan Security
-[X] Promise what's left of the Archon's family fair treatment as befits their station.
-[X] Escort them back to the legion.
-[X] Make it clear on the way that you hold no ill will against them, and that they will be safe.
-[X] Order a detachment to keep them under guard and separate from the other civilians and surrendered soldiers.
-[X] Ensure that the soldiers guarding them know that they are not to be mistreated, and to be granted any reasonable requests given what they've just been through.
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How about a faster solution?
Our men are most likely literally dying and having their souls eaten by daemons in other parts of the city right now.

How about we Resilient Sphere the kids, move back to our men with utmost speed to give them these orders and then Teleport out with Richard?
Or call for Yrael, he should still be in the palace and he can protect and heal them, maybe even calm them down.
 
So, there is an actual, extraplanat Archon with us right now, right?

Was does he have to say? Just for curiosity's sake
 
Raising the mother is a bad idea. We might have ended up executing her ourselves in the normal course of events. We don't owe her anything. Protecting the kids and civilians already sets us apart as merciful.

Can we Heart's Ease the kids after the battle is over? I'm vague on how that effect works.
das_slash said:
Oh right, we have the poor man's heart ease! Deep slumber!
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No, we don't. We have Greater Shadow Enchantment which is a level 6 spell.
DocMatoi said:
[jk] order Ser Richard to guard a new group of Noble orphans with nothing in the world, as he did for us
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I know you're just joking, but it was more Ser Darry that did that for us. We'd already started to claw our way up when we met Ser Richard.

@Snowfire, shouldn't you also include our next move?
 
Snowfire said:
You're missing the point. They're utterly traumatised, and also nobility that we actually probably want to keep alive. Consider that DP has said that this would definitely be a time for Heart's Ease, not that I'd intend on using it. Words should be enough whilst we get them to safety.

[X] Plan Orphan Security
-[X] Promise what's left of the Archon's family fair treatment as befits their station.
-[X] Escort them back to the legion.
-[X] Make it clear on the way that you hold no ill will against them, and that they will be safe.
-[X] Order a detachment to keep them under guard and separate from the other civilians and surrendered soldiers.
-[X] Ensure that the soldiers guarding them know that they are not to be mistreated, and to be granted any reasonable requests given what they've just been through.

The reason for the separation from the others who've surrendered is that I don't want attempted mob justice, and after what they've been through (and the delicacy of their lives up to this point) throwing them in the commons rooms would be a terrible idea. It also gives a concrete gesture that we'll be true to our word.
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And you are missing my point, It doesnt take a King to reassure them.
There are likely thousands of people in this city in a similar situation, we cannot waste time here to calm them down.
As long as they survive the night, we can just Moss them in the morning, there are far more urgent things to do.
 
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