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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Duesal said:
The cleric levels are a point of pride. Dany stole Tiamat's hoard of cleric spells right from under her nose. It's the ultimate revenge against a dragon, taking from their hoard.
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yeah but when we're done with tiamat she wont have a hoard or at least thats the hope you know cause she will be dead and we will have a dragon gods hoard something i am pretty sure amounts to around a trillion gold.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Not really a rewrite, but I think it boiled to unfucking her pseudo-SA a bit.

@Goldfish Valeana gets just one second level spell. She casts as a bard.
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She would normally only learn one, but someone we messed up her last level up, or DP left something off, because at level 4 she should know two 2nd level spells but only knows one currently. This level up is fixing that issue.

Also, she should only have three 1st level spells, but currently has four. Since she would be learning a new one at 5th level, leaving her 1st level spells alone this level up also fixes that.
 
So, Aisha's Dirty Trick functions as such: every round, she makes an attack roll. I'm not sure if this is also an attack, but nonetheless, her opponent must make a reflex save against the result of her attack rol or suffer Dirty Trick on al attacks that round.

Classes that progress sneak attack instead progress dirty trick.

As Mariner 5 is completely worthless, I say we give her levels in Rogue and retrain Mobility into TWF @Goldfish

When she hits level 9, we can have her retrain that awful charge defense thing into Mobility, and she can then pick up Elusive Target.

At least this way it isn't much worse than Rogue/Swashbuckler or such. She got 1d4 of unreliable sneak attack and two bonus feats.
 
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Added Leila's level up to my consolidated plan, along with a complete rebuild of her skills. If you look at her current bare bones character sheet, there is some wonky shit going on with her skills.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
So, Aisha's Dirty Trick functions as such: every round, she makes an attack roll. I'm not sure if this is also an attack, but nonetheless, her opponent must make a reflex save against the result of her attack rol or suffer Dirty Trick on al attacks that round.

Classes that progress sneak attack instead progress dirty trick.

As Mariner 5 is completely worthless, I say we give her levels in Rogue and retrain Mobility into TWF @Goldfish

When she hits level 9, we can have her retrain that awful charge defense thing into Mobility, and she can then pick up Elusive Target.
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That sounds good to me. Let me tinker with her level up a bit.
 
It'd be great if Aisha could use the DEX-to-damage version of Weapon Finesse, like Garin and a few others do...

She otherwise hits for 1d6+2, and the +2 is from the VS axe. TWF is the best way to maximize her Dirty Trick, or to make it worth anything at all, but it at the same time lowers the DC for the very same ability, which is insufferably inconsistent due being determined with a roll, not a fixed amount.

Assuming we provide her with a razor sharp handaxe, she will get +7 VS Axe (1d6+5) and +6 Axe (1d6+4), with a dirty trick of 1d4+1d6, if they fail a reflex of 1d20+7. Average CR5 monster has 56 HP, 17 AC, Ref +6.

Looks alright, in a mediocre fashion.
 
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@TotallyNotEvil I'm not even sure what to do with Asha's skill points. Do we keep the course with the way she's been distributing them, dump them all into useful skills for a Rogue, etc?

Here's everything reposted, since there have been so many additions since it first went up.

[X] Prepare for Tyrosh
-[X] Begin implementing previously planned preparations.
-[X] Use Imprison Possessor on the captured Fye after forcing them to possess some turtles or other easily managed creature.

[X] Dany Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Dragonspeaker
-[X] Skills (5 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Knowledge(Arcana), +1 Knowledge(the Planes), +1 Sense Motive, +1 Spellcraft

[X] Richard Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Paragon Knight
-[X] Skills (5 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Spellcraft, +3 Knowledge(War)
-[X] Stance: Hearing the Air
-[X] Maneuver: Emerald Razor -> Moment of Alacrity
--[X] Change loadout: Swap Ruby Nightmare Blade for Moment of Alacrity

[X] Vaelana Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Magus
-[X] Skills (6 points): +1 Concentration, +1 Knowledge(Arcana), +1 Knowledge(The Planes), +1 Spellcraft, +2 Handle Animal
-[X] Bonus Combat Feat: Weapon Focus(Spiked Chain)
-[X] Spells:
--[X] 2nd Level(x2): Stone Discus, Wraithstrike

[X] Theon Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Mystic Ranger
-[X] Skills (8 points): +1 Knowledge(Arcana), +1 Knowledge(Dungeoneering), +1 Knowledge(Nature), +1 Knowledge(Religion), +1 Knowledge(The Planes), +1 Profession(Sailor), +1 Spot, +1 Survival

[X] Asha Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Rogue
-[X] Skills (10 points): +1 Balance, +1 Bluff, +1 Climb, +1 Intimidate, +1 Profession(Sailor), +1 Spot, +1 Swim, +1 Tumble, +2 Knowledge(Geography)
-[X] Retrained Feat: Mobility >>> Two-Weapon Fighting

[X] Leila Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Archivist
-[X] Attribute: +1 Intelligence
-[X] Lore Mastery: Knowledge(Arcana)
-[X] Skills Rebuild(49 points; @DragonParadox, this is to fix her skills, which are currently incorrect): +5 Appraise, +7 Concentration, +1 Craft(Leatherworking), +1 Craft(Metalworking), +1 Craft(Sculpture), +1 Craft(Woodworking), +5 Heal, +7 Knowledge(Arcana), +7 Knowledge(Religion), +7 Knowledge(The Planes), +7 Spellcraft
-[X] Retrained Feat: Skill Focus(Knowledge[Religion]) >>> Extraordinary Artisan
 
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[X] Goldfish

@TotallyNotEvil After looking at those class features, I think we actually should take Contemplative to 10. That capstone though. Any ideas for what we could replace it with?

Maybe Divine Mind to go along with Divine Body and Divine Soul? Constant Mind Blank effect?
 
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Crake said:
[X] Goldfish

@TotallyNotEvil After looking at those class features, I think we actually should take Contemplative to 10. That capstone though. Any ideas for what we could replace it with?

Maybe Divine Mind to go along with Divine Body and Divine Soul? Constant Mind Blank effect?
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There's only room for five levels.

7 at most.
Goldfish said:
Skills Rebuild(42 points; @DragonParadox, this is to fix her skills, which were pretty jacked up; she didn't have the correct number of points and they appeared to have been distributed incorrectly):
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Those are total skill mods, like in most statblocks.
Goldfish said:
do with Asha's skill points. Do we keep the course with the way she's been distributing them, dump them all into useful skills for a Rogue, etc?
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She is essentially a rogue with Intimidate and Profession (Sailor). So yeah, stay the course.

I suppose some diplomacy would be good.
 
BeepSmile said:
Mindblank spell.

So if that was your main reason for liberation, there may be better domains. Or maybe liberation is the best regardless *shrugs*
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Yes, but having it as a domain spell is just more convenient. It's pretty fitting, too. Even if she's not a Cleric of Freedom (we all know Draconic Glory is so much better), she'll have the Liberation Domain.
 
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