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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
Yeah, but we've been doing precisely that for the last 10 minutes, so Garin arriving just as he wants to sign is still plot convenience of the highest order. And it sticks out because this is a regular occurrence.
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But it's that contrivance that fuels his newest Mythic Rank. :V

"The King's shadow is always there to stop you in your moment of triumph/to prevent you from escaping", and things like that.
 
Azel said:
Yeah, but we've been doing precisely that for the last 10 minutes, so Garin arriving just as he wants to sign is still plot convenience of the highest order. And it sticks out because this is a regular occurrence.
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it could have been just a case of the dice loving drama , the die rolls for Dynasty of Dynamic alcoholism , Embers in the Dusk and that long running star wars ck2 style quest that keeps changing GMs rather than die all prove that the dice gods love drama
 
Azel said:
And it sticks out because this is a regular occurrence.
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You know what else is a regular occurrence from our combat scenes? IIRC every time we've see a Legionnaire get ambushed, she's a woman. It happened both at the Rock and in the Red Keep, for example.
I don't think DP is doing it consciously or anything, but upon rereading Legionnaire scenes it stuck out. He also tends to use female Legionnaires as speech or education PoVs. This sort of thing happens so often that basically every Legionnaire unit I could find was a co-ed one, resulting in an astonishingly mixed-gender army compared to most other fantasy.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
You know what else is a regular occurrence from our combat scenes? IIRC every time we've see a Legionnaire get ambushed, she's a woman. It happened both at the Rock and in the Red Keep, for example.
I don't think DP is doing it consciously or anything, but upon rereading Legionnaire scenes it stuck out. He also tends to use female Legionnaires as speech or education PoVs. This sort of thing happens so often that basically every Legionnaire unit I could find was a co-ed one, resulting in an astonishingly mixed-gender army compared to most other fantasy.
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And there isn't a single Boobplate to be seen among the Legions. Truly, the Imperium is the height of Fantasy Egalitarianism. :p
 
Azel said:
It sounded as if the bargain would have been to realign the portals beneath Casterly Rock to Baator.

But, as always, we arrive in the nick of time to neutralise the hitherto unknown threat.
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TalonofAnathrax said:
You know what else is a regular occurrence from our combat scenes? IIRC every time we've see a Legionnaire get ambushed, she's a woman. It happened both at the Rock and in the Red Keep, for example.
I don't think DP is doing it consciously or anything, but upon rereading Legionnaire scenes it stuck out. He also tends to use female Legionnaires as speech or education PoVs. This sort of thing happens so often that basically every Legionnaire unit I could find was a co-ed one, resulting in an astonishingly mixed-gender army compared to most other fantasy.
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Huh... I did not even realize that was a pattern. I'm going to have to look into that. I think it might be just that I use a lot of female legionaries as PoVs and if one is a PoV it is likely including the above

As for stopping Tywin yeah that is on me with the lack of intel, hopefully with the new system that will get smoothed out
 
@Goldfish I am going to write a custom Mythic path for Garin, but as with Malarys and Waymar, that's mostly for the sake of fluff.

I know you mostly want to rush that vote because having access to Mythic abilities makes a massive mechanical difference.

Speaking of which, I did Waymar, I should really do Malarys already... ugh, and I have to finish example sheets for Imperial Icons still.
 
Crake said:
@Goldfish I am going to write a custom Mythic path for Garin, but as with Malarys and Waymar, that's mostly for the sake of fluff.

I know you mostly want to rush that vote because having access to Mythic abilities makes a massive mechanical difference.

Speaking of which, I did Waymar, I should really do Malarys already... ugh, and I have to finish example sheets for Imperial Icons still.
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That's cool. Fluff is always nice, IMO.

I just don't we need to try to get fancy with special mechanics, since Trickster already has a huge number of fitting options to choose from.
 
DragonParadox said:
Huh... I did not even realize that was a pattern. I'm going to have to look into that. I think it might be just that I use a lot of female legionaries as PoVs and if one is a PoV it is likely including the above
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This is kind of weird, because it does give the impression of, what with all the female PoVs, it being mostly mixed gender, but the training requirements should be that a Legionnaire has to meet a minimum standard, seeing as how the logistical difference between an army that moves on foot and a military that is much more mechanized? Everyone is as slow as their slowest member. And while there will be women who can meet those standards (some having to work harder than others to have the opportunity), that's not possible for everyone.

Though the potential for weirdness makes less of a difference if you opt out of the "gritty realism" of ASoIaF and lean into D&D's more egalitarian "anyone can become a headcracker/archmage/dashing rogue"-ness. And explain any inconsistencies away with "magic, basically, also Planetosi humans aren't even really like regular humans, they're deathworld analogues".
 
Huh. I just realised. If we have Tywin then basically we've won, he was our main antagonist in Westeros, the rest is clean up. Congratulations ladies and gentlemen. From the gutters of Braavos to conquering Westeros.
 
Crake said:
This is kind of weird, because it does give the impression of, what with all the female PoVs, it being mostly mixed gender, but the training requirements should be that a Legionnaire has to meet a minimum standard, seeing as how the logistical difference between an army that moves on foot and a military that is much more mechanized? Everyone is as slow as their slowest member. And while there will be women who can meet those standards (some having to work harder than others to have the opportunity), that's not possible for everyone.

Though the potential for weirdness makes less of a difference if you opt out of the "gritty realism" of ASoIaF and lean into D&D's more egalitarian "anyone can become a headcracker/archmage/dashing rogue"-ness. And explain any inconsistencies away with "magic, basically, also Planetosi humans aren't even really like regular humans, they're deathworld analogues".
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The system we are working with is D&D at its core and you don't get stats changed for gender in D&D. To be honest I never even considered it before now, it was just a basic premise of the system, you roll for stats or you get the normal/elite array for your species.
 
DragonParadox said:
She would die tonight, she and the last of his brothers, and Tywin found he cared not one whit, no matter that Gerion did not know about her treachery. His heart was stone.
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So Lanna was planning to do something to betray Tywin be that stabbing him in the back in some way or just straight up leaving, Tywin found out and then bound her with mind control.
 
Destrark said:
Huh. I just realised. If we have Tywin then basically we've won, he was our main antagonist in Westeros, the rest is clean up. Congratulations ladies and gentlemen. From the gutters of Braavos to conquering Westeros.
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Well, there are still the Others and Mind Flayers. Both of which pose actual threats to us then some mortal whos only source of power comes from a shiny rock.
 
@Crake, I can't see why the women couldn't meet the minimum standard. We're recruiting a small number of people from a huge, heavily populated area. Then we put them through boot camp. And a lot of these people are ex-slaves who wanted some revenge - this nicely sidesteps usual cultural factors which keep women away from the army, and it also recruits from the massive numbers of women who spent their lives doing hard labor. We also explicitly aren't demanding previous combat training or anything, so that's not a problem.

Even if you think women in D&D should have -4 Str because they're naturally weak and hesitant, we've got a sufficiently massive recruiting pool to reasonably have huge numbers of "top of the bell curve" women who could meet basic infantry requirements and wreck face.
Male biology =/= female biology, but the difference isn't that huge.
 
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Rovos said:
So Lanna was planning to do something to betray Tywin be that stabbing him in the back in some way or just straight up leaving, Tywin found out and then bound her with mind control.
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If I'm not mistaken, we had information that Lanna was going to kill or capture Tywin, put Tyrion in his place, and give us the bald lion's head with assurances of complete loyalty.
My guess is that Tywin survived an assassination attempt or attempted takeover, and then enslaved all the Lannisters.
 
Rovos said:
So Lanna was planning to do something to betray Tywin be that stabbing him in the back in some way or just straight up leaving, Tywin found out and then bound her with mind control.
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Point of clarification. He got something from his Lloth empowered daughter to bind Lanna. Oh dear.

And huh, he sold something Divine? Looks like Garin didn't get there quite to stop everything.
 
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