I am with you. The smart thing to do is to promote mutual self interest, of course. But the moments where we go "Screw it, you will listen to me because I am a dragon and you're a monkey" are just vastly more fun. Doing that to Aurane was satisfying as hell. We don't get enough of those moments, imo.
I am with you. The smart thing to do is to promote mutual self interest, of course. But the moments where we go "Screw it, you will listen to me because I am a dragon and you're a monkey" are just vastly more fun. Doing that to Aurane was satisfying as hell. We don't get enough of those moments, imo.
I mean, Aurane demonstrates the kind of demographic where it is perfectly reasonable, even acceptable in the eyes of others, to just lay down the law and correct certain misconceptions being held about what we're all about.
What Aurane did could be considered a degree of irreverent flippancy compounded with irreverent ignorance which would normally be unacceptable between a man of his standing (a bastard) and us (a sovereign lord). That is leaving aside all the implications about our claims or recognition, we were within our rights to do worse.
But we didn't. Sometimes you just need to remind the people with social and mental acuity barely above a beast that when a dragon breathes, you get out of the way.
Most of the time that ain't really necessary. People acknowledge we are the Blood of the Dragon. They do it with everything that they leave unsaid, in body language, and in what they'll admit out loud.
That's why these days even the lords who don't agree with us will usually--quite reasonably in their mind--point out the facts as they see them, and politely wait for our response.
Because it is very fucking stupid to poke the dragon. Only the rare few, the dying breed, are willing to do so anymore. And Darwin will sort them out soon enough.
Fair enough, it's worth nothing that I'm not trying to generate sympathy as a writer (that would be a sort of soft railroading), just interest. The above reaction is perfectly reasonable, though I do also enjoy it when you guys try to get into the heads of characters in general (wether they are antagonists or not).
I can't speak for the thread... She helped Lannisters loot Valyria. Personally no matter if she is the saint of the universe I will never forgive her.
That said she might be the only non Tyrion shaped person in the Lannister circle that doesn't need to be shat on by a dragon. And i guess her husband too... If we must.
I can't speak for the thread... She helped Lannisters loot Valyria. Personally no matter if she is the saint of the universe I will never forgive her.
That said she might be the only non Tyrion shaped person in the Lannister circle that doesn't need to be shat on by a dragon. And i guess her husband too... If we must.
I certainly hope so but wouldn't be first time something changes due to either thread or new info right before doing the deed. Once she is dead and buried I will be semi-sure we got rid of her.
I certainly hope so but wouldn't be first time something changes due to either thread or new info right before doing the deed. Once she is dead and buried I will be semi-sure we got rid of her.
Not with that attitude they can't.
Oh well. I hope an opportunity to recruit her comes anyway, subordinates who aren't complete idiots are always useful.
I've never really understood that sentiment tbh. She's doing what she can to protect her homeland, and seizing every advantage she can to do it. I'm more impressed she had the courage to get anywhere near that hellscape so early on if I'm being honest. Eh, I guess I see things differently since I'm reading things long after they happened.
Not with that attitude they can't.
Oh well. I hope an opportunity to recruit her comes anyway, subordinates who aren't complete idiots are always useful.
I've never really understood that sentiment tbh. She's doing what she can to protect her homeland, and seizing every advantage she can to do it. I'm more impressed she had the courage to get anywhere near that hellscape so early on if I'm being honest. Eh, I guess I see things differently since I'm reading things long after they happened.
Yeah, the Tyrells are Lannisters with better PR. I support the urge to murder them more than I do the Lannisters, who aren't good at hiding what they are.
Anything can happen, so she might redeem herself in some manner and earn a reprieve. Chances are, however, that she's going down with the Lannister ship, so to speak. It's unfortunate, but she had ample opportunities to defect, and at one point we saw her struggling internally about following a man like Tywin Lannister, yet she stayed the course.
Anything can happen, so she might redeem herself in some manner and earn a reprieve. Chances are, however, that she's going down with the Lannister ship, so to speak. It's unfortunate, but she had ample opportunities to defect, and at one point we saw her struggling internally about following a man like Tywin Lannister, yet she stayed the course.
Its all going to depend really. I am damn sure that if the next time we see her is standing next to Tyrion, with her kids next to her, the thread is not gonna vote indiscriminate killing go!
If that kind of scenario happens I see her living. Most people like Tyrion quite alot.... For a Lannister. And even if people vote for killing the kids(doubtful) that's something Viserys just not going to do so its a nonstarter.
Do I want her dead. Yes. I however see many scenarios where the situation will end with her alive.
Anything can happen, so she might redeem herself in some manner and earn a reprieve. Chances are, however, that she's going down with the Lannister ship, so to speak. It's unfortunate, but she had ample opportunities to defect, and at one point we saw her struggling internally about following a man like Tywin Lannister, yet she stayed the course.
Yeah, I understand. It's just disappointing that like Duesal said, not everyone can be saved. It's a hard thing to struggle against what seems to be a betrayal of their homeland. I hope for the sake of her kids that she sees that Tywin isn't going to bring a future for Westerlands or Westeros
Now this, this is great. Thank you.
Mind, "Administrative Center" in my shitty group-naming ways is, essentially, a "City" already. Basically just the thigns that halp guards keep order in case of more supernatiral shit, or try and slow down any higher-CR enemies by bodypiling and/or noting everyone there's an enemy nearby, because plenty are good sensors in those groups.
Although a few Cities here do need their own Aquatic Defense Groups.
The North
- Administrative Centers: 8x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Castle Black, Last Hearth, Winterfell, Stony Shore, Dreadfort, White Harbor, Moat Cailin, Bear Isle] (91.900 IM each).
- Cities: White Harbor - 1x Roving Aquatic Patrol (70,630 IM each)
- Military Bases: None
The Vale
- Administrative Centers: 2x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Runestone, Northweald] (91.900 IM each).
- Cities: Gulltown
- Military Bases: x1 [The Eyri] - 1x Legion Training Centre -- standard defense group (27.940 IM each)
The Riverlands
- Administrative Centers: 3x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [The Twins, Darry, one location yet to determine] (91.900 IM each).
- Cities: Saltpans - 1x Roving Aquatic Patrol (70,630 IM each)
- Military Bases: Harrenhall -1x Legion Training Centre -- standard defense group (27.940 IM each)
Iron Isles
- Administrative Centers:1xAdministrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Pike](91.900 IM each).
- Cities: None
- Military Bases: None
Westerlands
- Administrative Centers: 3xAdministrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Greyport, two locations yet to determine](91.900 IM each).
- Cities: Greyport 1x Roving Aquatic Patrol (70,630 IM each)
- Military Bases: - 10xLegion Training Centre -- standard defense group [The Rock] (27.940 IM each)
Crownlands
- Administrative Centers: 4x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Kings Landing, Duskendale, Dragonstone, one location yet to determine] (91.900 IM each)
- Cities: Duskendale, Kings Landing
- Military Bases: None
Reach
- Administrative Centers: 4x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Highgarden, Oldtown, The Arbor, one location yet to determine] (91.900 IM each)
- Cities: Oldtown
- Military Bases: None
Stormlands
- Administrative Centers: 2x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Storms End, Tarth] (91.900 IM each)
- Cities: None
- Military Bases: None
Dorne
- Administrative Centers: 1x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group [Sunspear] (91.900 IM each)
- Cities: Sunspear
- Military Bases: None
...WIth those in mind, the Forge-Order would look like: Forge Order proposal, 3rd month:
[] Soulforged Undead to assign at need (until further note and assignment, guarding Gogossos) -- 2.308.100 IM
2000x Spitter Swarms - 60 IM each = 120,000 IM
500x Black Knights with Mobility Upgrade - 560 IM each = 280,000 IM
50x Black Champions - 5,360 IM each = 268,000 IM
25x Black Brutes - 4,700 IM each = 117,500 IM
20x Necro-Crakens - 4,880 IM each = 97,600 IM
500x Necrotic Molds - 450 IM each = 225,000 IM
25x Greater Bloodclot Molds - 28,800 IM each = 720,000 IM
100x Blood Clot Molds - 4,800 each = 480,000 IM
[] Inquisition Forces -- 222.800 IM
30x Watchmoles - 1,320 IM each = 39,600 IM
10x Lindworms - 3,920 IM each = 39,200 IM
[] 21x Roving Aquatic Patrols -- 70.630 IM each -- 1.483.230 IM [Immediate deployment: Narrow Sea (10x), Goggossos(1x), Braavos (1x), Rhoyne (1x), Old Town (1x), the Iron Isles (1x), Dragonstone (1x)] [Preparing for invasion, wait in Iron Isles until further notice: Greyport (1x);] [Preparing for invasion, wait in Dragonstone until further notice: Saltpans (1x), King's Landing (1x)]
[Preparing for invasion, wait in Braavosuntil further notice: White Harbor (1x)]
[Preparing for invasion, wait in Tyrosh until further notice: the Mander (1x)]
1x Lead-clad Greater Bloodshark - 2,325 IM each - 2,325 IM per unit
1x Lead-clad Black Brute - 4,880 IM each - 4,880 IM per unit
5x Lead-clad Bloodshark - 1,035 IM each - 5,175 IM per unit
20x Lead-clad Advanced Skeletal Narwhale - 220 IM each - 4,400 IM per unit
50x Lead-clad Blood Seal - 45 IM each - 2,250 IM per unit
76x Necrotic Mold - 300 IM each - 22,800 IM per unit
1x Greater Bloodclot Mold - 28,800 IM each - 28,800 per unit
[] 12x Westerosi (Stationary) Aquatic Defense Groups (Reconquest Support and guarding the locations afterwards) - 387.960 each -- 4.655.520 IM [White Harbor, Gulltown, Duskendale, King's Landing, Greyport and Oldtown, Dragonstone, Driftmark, Bear Island, the Iron Islands, Sunspear, and Storm's End] [Preparing for invasion, wait in Dragonstoneuntil further notice: Dragonstone (1x), Driftmark (1x), King's Landing (1x), Gulltown (1x) and Duskendale (1x)]
[Preparing for invasion, wait in Iron Islesuntil further notice: Iron Isles (1x), Greyport (1x) and Bear Island (1x)]
[Preparing for invasion, wait in Sorcerer's Deepuntil further notice: Sunspear (1x) and Storm's End (1x)]
81x Hunter Jellyfish - 1,800 IM each = 145,800 IM
81x Black Knights with Mobility Upgrade - 560 IM each = 45,360 IM
72x Necrotic Molds - 450 IM each = 32,400 IM
9x Blood Clot Molds - 4,800 IM each = 43,200 IM
9x Advanced Dire Hunter Jellyfish (CR 10) - 4,800 IM each = 43,200 IM
8x Black Brutes - 4,700 IM each = 37,600 IM
8x Necrotic Molds (Black Brute controlling units) - 450 IM each = 3,600 IM
4x Vigilant Kelps (CR 4, 6 HD) - 660 IM each = 2,640 IM
1x Black Champion - 5,360 IM
1x Greater Bloodclot Mold (Black Champion controlling unit) - 28,800 IM
[] Iron Isles Additional Forces: 2x (Stationary) Aquatic Defense Groups- 387.960 each. -- 775.920 IM
81x Hunter Jellyfish - 1,800 IM each = 145,800 IM
81x Black Knights with Mobility Upgrade - 560 IM each = 45,360 IM
72x Necrotic Molds - 450 IM each = 32,400 IM
9x Blood Clot Molds - 4,800 IM each = 43,200 IM
9x Advanced Dire Hunter Jellyfish (CR 10) - 4,800 IM each = 43,200 IM
8x Black Brutes - 4,700 IM each = 37,600 IM
8x Necrotic Molds (Black Brute controlling units) - 450 IM each = 3,600 IM
4x Vigilant Kelps (CR 4, 6 HD) - 660 IM each = 2,640 IM
1x Black Champion - 5,360 IM
1x Greater Bloodclot Mold (Black Champion controlling unit) - 28,800 IM
[] 28x Administrative Facilities -- standard city defense group (Reconquest Support and guarding the locations afterwards)- 91.900 IM each. -- 2.573.200 IM [Castle Black, Last Hearth, Winterfell, Stony Shore, Dreadfort, White Harbor, Moat Cailin, Bear Isle, Runestone, Northweald, The Twins, Darry, one location yet to determine, Pike, Greyport, two locations yet to determine, Kings Landing, Duskendale, Dragonstone, one location yet to determine, Highgarden, Oldtown, The Arbor, one location yet to determine, Storms End, Tarth, Sunspear]
[] 30xLegion Training Centre -- standard defense group (Reconquest Support and guarding the locations afterwards)) - 27.940 IM each. -- 838.200 IM [x10 The Eyri, x10 Harrenhall, x10 The Rock]
[] 32x Heart Tree -- standard defense group (Reconquest Support and guarding the locations afterwards) - 13,320 IM each -- 426.240 IM
2x Verdant Wolves - 2,400 IM total
2x Advanced Druid Lotus Leshy - 4,800 IM total
1x Druid Treant - 4,800 IM
1x Watchmole (CR 6) - 1,320 IM
Total: 13.139.220 IM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, the above is a shitshow that is hard on eyes, but I can't really think of a better way rn and wanna go eat.
Also, the IM number is the highest one for a Forge-order yet, I believe?
But, it would cover ~80% of our Westeros-defending purposes from the get-go.
...There's also the Heart Trees to grow in every city (and each needs 13.320 IM worth of guards, to boot), and that would be a challenge in of an itself... before we even think on all the religious shitshow.
But overall, this Forge-Order might just be the last one to be so unreasonable?
Maybe?
...Plz, let it be, God. I'm afraid for our finances by even looking at it.
Not yet. Was gonna get started on it a few days ago, then I noticed that most of the CR/HD info had been removed from the various servitors. It's not a problem, it'll just take me longer to put it together. Didn't have the time right then to do it, though. Will try to get to it when I'm both able and have the mental energy to spare.
It's not that much trouble really, I just need to have enough time and energy to sit down at my computer to figure up the discounts and how many corpse HD are used. Basically, any living servitor of CR 6 or less can be paid for with corpse HD, with a ratio of 3 HD per 1 CR. Also, anything that is above CR 6 that has the Telepathy upgrade costs 10% more.
Paired with how @egoo keeps despairing about the work required to make the orders and how I can never keep the prices straight, I'd say there is some trouble to the matter.
