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That moment when you realize this entire scheme is the Sealord's wet dream.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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If there is an informal cult forming, then fine. We should still actively try to curb it though.
If we just wanted to be seen as a deity or at least deity-like figure, we can just go to Rhllor and bribe him to give us the Azor Ahai title. The overwhelming majority of the thread never wanted that though, so I invested a lot of time and effort into cooking up this scheme to have our cake and eat it.
Viserys is not a god. Giving out spells is explicitly not the same as answering prayers.
Didn't read correctly what you referred to.
We specifically have a research action that will make this happen and DP already confirmed OOC that it can work if we invest the time, resources and expertise to make it work.
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Let's make sure that no one can pull some BS from our shadow.
Let's make sure that no one can pull some BS from our shadow.
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The part where everyday bureocratic "ceremony" or mostly unreligious faith in an ideal of the Empire can be translated into measurable power is confirmed?
Then that's great.
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It's even already being worked on this month:
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I know we started the research, but I wasn't aware that it was certain to work yet.
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Wait so rather than praying to a singular deity our clerics would be, what, praying to the state?
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I'm tempted to just write "essentially, yes", but since this seems to keep causing confusion if I accept slightly off terms, I'll henceforth be anal about this.
Thus:
No. They would not be praying. They would believe in the innate righteousness, power and authority of the state and it's Imperator, and receiving power from him for said devotion and loyalty.
No prayer. No faith.
CandyCoatedChaos
Evil is just misunderstood
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Its very.... Palpatine.
Not that its bad, I personally really like Palpatine.
Wow, it's nice to have some solid debate going on here.
I almost feel sorry to close this but it is 14 to 5 to 2 so it's not liek this is close and I do want to get at least two updates per day so vote closed.
I almost feel sorry to close this but it is 14 to 5 to 2 so it's not liek this is close and I do want to get at least two updates per day so vote closed.
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"I'll take 'Totalitarian Emperors' for 500 please."
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See, this is the part where I'd like a little examination of the workings behind this.
We do have a little look into the function of prayer here.
The "prayer" part does not apply to our concept, but the sympathetic acts or "deeds aligned with the nature of the god in their name" could work. (will work, since we have OOC info that it somehow works in general)
However it still seems as if the acts need to be conciously dedicated to the deity (or battery) in question, so we might have to ask our clerks and other state-workers for some acknowledgement of the matter.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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CandyCoatedChaos
Evil is just misunderstood
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Can we shoot lighting storm from our hands? I mean I guess we use fire more and its more thematic with dragons, but now I want a good lightning fry of some bastard. I suppose mad cackling would be OOC though.... I wants it anyways.
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Bridging that gap is pretty much why we need that research action. It's also why I designed the Imperial Palace the way it is, since the outer wings are specifically laid out and intended as conduits to gather power. They are all dedicated to one part of the concepts we agreed on way back when we started on this path and looked for domains.
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There are plenty of spells for that and can always just use Ancestral Awakening to temporarily get Energy Substitution: Lightning.
CandyCoatedChaos
Evil is just misunderstood
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How do i give a hundred likes.
Just think some usual bastard tries to screw us, Viserys stands on top of some stairs or a hill or whatever and yells ULTIMAH PAWAHR or something similar, then fries the bastard with lightning while cackling madly.
I am sure Lya and the rest will shrug and go with it, its not the craziest thing we've done.
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I'm not sure that it works like that though. Obviously this is all speculation and DP will have the final word, but here's my two cents: what you're describing would make sense for a Dresden Files Queen awarding a Mantle to her prize follower, but when reading the Pathfinder Mythic ability I got the feeling that it worked like any God's ability to grant magic. It goes "pick a follower who worships you, grant him spells". The "worship" part seems needed for a God to be able to push divine spells into your soul (and the soul and personal skill are the limit here - isn't that the justification for Gods not being able to immediately turn anyone into a Cleric 20 ?).
I'm totally on board with the rest of the "make a brainless God and use that power to do cool stuff and bribe other Gods", but I don't think that our ability to empower clerics can be divorced from actual worship. We can pick a very convenient cult (and I remember seeing proposals to make filling out paperwork and working for Imperial institutions holy acts that our God/Viserys approves of), but I think there actually needs to be a cult.
Here's the wording on our ability.
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Eh. I prefer using our fire, which is at this point pretty much the platonic ideal of burning stuff and can even burn other fire.
CandyCoatedChaos
Evil is just misunderstood
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Just like with the stock market you gotta diversify your destruction and murder..I mean protecting the realm, Azel. Fire is great, Fire and Lightning is like owning some Apple while also having bought into Amazon.
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I'm pretty sure that a god can just turn you into a Cleric 20, given that they get abilities that are titled things like "Rewrite Reality", but it would cost them a ton of power to do this as opposed to just watching a promising mortal and occasionally putting your thumb on the scales of fate.
Pretty much how Bloodraven operates. Always try to get as much effect with as little power as possible.
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But then how come in times of great crisis when their very lives are threatened, all they do is send some special SLAs and an outsider servant or two to some chosen mortals? Why not just make these chosen, faithful mortals into Cleric 20s ?
Forgotten Realms is a bad setting to use as an example, I know...
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Divine tit for tat?
The arbitrary rules written in narrativum?
If you can make CR 20 Outsiders, I see no reason why you couldn't make a mortal into a lvl 20 Cleric.
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