We don't have enough royal family for that yet though. Unless you want to set Lya to start making those 20 sons and daughters?
Some kind of emergency token for all family and vital personnel to get teleported out of the city and into a remote fortified bunker in the event of a DOOM scale event would probably be prudent. Something runeforged that would work even in dead magic, preferably, just in case of a particularly determined enemy.

I really want fortified bunkers built for us. We are at the edge of half a dozen different apocalypses at any given time.
 
Not quite yet. I guess that's a future concern. For one thing, Emps definitely warded the fuck out of his Lunar gene labs and they STILL got yoinked.

I want security measures at least twice as paranoid as one transhuman megamind can come up with... on the fake location for them.
Luckily, we can just throw some of the most paranoid people on Planetos at this. Zherys, Melisandre, Qyburn, Malarys, Lya, Viserys...
 
Not quite yet. I guess that's a future concern. For one thing, Emps definitely warded the fuck out of his Lunar gene labs and they STILL got yoinked.

I want security measures at least twice as paranoid as one transhuman megamind can come up with... on the fake location for them.
Just to be clear, this is a meme number right? Starting parenting on nightmare mode sounds like a great way to make a whole bunch of really fucked up people.

Lya and Viserys should probably start with a fish or something and work their way up for the next 5-10 years. If more people did it that way the world would have less assholes in it.:V
 
Just to be clear, this is a meme number right? Starting parenting on nightmare mode sounds like a great way to make a whole bunch of really fucked up people.

Lya and Viserys should probably start with a fish or something and work their way up for the next 5-10 years. If more people did it that way the world would have less assholes in it.:V
It is a meme, yes.

I was angling for something like three boys and three girls. To start, anyway.
 
This is a complex matter, but the short answer:
The Byzantine system was created since technological, fiscal and political constraints made the Roman legion system untenable to adequately secure the realms borders, and it came at the cost of giving every Thaemos the ability to have armed opinions about the ruler in Constantinople.

Our situation is very different in pretty much all aspects.

Good to know, thank you for explaining that. One other thing I need a bit clarified is how we are going to deal with the village killing problem. IE giant rats, Goblins, and the like. Is that the lawmens job or do we have something planned or in the works? I'd rather we not lose population due to the ineptitude of villagers trying to defend themselves and failing at it.
 
Good to know, thank you for explaining that. One other thing I need a bit clarified is how we are going to deal with the village killing problem. IE giant rats, Goblins, and the like. Is that the lawmens job or do we have something planned or in the works? I'd rather we not lose population due to the ineptitude of villagers trying to defend themselves and failing at it.
We have patrolling garrisons moving around, habitually dissuading pests from civilized areas, bandits and the like. If they see something worse, they report it and generally the actual Legion will end up dealing with it. If it's something the Legion can't deal with, that's generally a problem reported up the chain until someone sets aside some baby PCs to handle it. And if they can't deal with it, that's when Viserys or the Companions get notified.
 
Should I switch my vote?

Also Iimagine that in the event of the nuking of SD and Viserys/the Companions, could one of Lya's "daughters" survive? They might be competitors for the title of Imperator, or at least kingmaker types.
 
We have patrolling garrisons moving around, habitually dissuading pests from civilized areas, bandits and the like. If they see something worse, they report it and generally the actual Legion will end up dealing with it. If it's something the Legion can't deal with, that's generally a problem reported up the chain until someone sets aside some baby PCs to handle it. And if they can't deal with it, that's when Viserys or the Companions get notified.
For most things, it's pretty likely that the Inquisition will deal with it, since these problems don't come out of nowhere. So they will likely be the ones looking into the matter and they do have a lot of highly mobile PC grade assets to deal with stuff.

Much less effort to send a Stormtrooper team then to send a whole Legion somewhere.
Should I switch my vote?
That's your choice.
 
Should I switch my vote?

Also Iimagine that in the event of the nuking of SD and Viserys/the Companions, could one of Lya's "daughters" survive? They might be competitors for the title of Imperator, or at least kingmaker types.
Probably. Most would be in Sorcerer's Deep, but Aradia's leaning towards shacking up with Lord Swann IIRC, so it wouldn't surprise me if she was with him when shit goes down.
 
Pretty much. A lot of our hype is built around the idea that Viserys is effectively a divinely appointed saviour who can not err and whose authority supersedes all worldly concerns.

Zherys would have to work hard to get that going for him.

It's more likely that the Imperium would turn into something looking a lot like the HRE, with Braavos, Volantis, Myr, Mantarys, Tolos and Gogossos becoming the electors.
Maybe if he's willing to make heavy concessions to Benerro he could make it.
Having the biggest religion on Essos support you will be a big boon in this, we haven't done nearly enough to neuter them yet.
Aside from that, Melisandre will be the most powerful individual left in the Imperium once the Companions are dead (barring Yss if his avatar survives) so her support would have high value too.
 
Maybe if he's willing to make heavy concessions to Benerro he could make it.
Having the biggest religion on Essos support you will be a big boon in this, we haven't done nearly enough to neuter them yet.
Aside from that, Melisandre will be the most powerful individual left in the Imperium once the Companions are dead (barring Yss if his avatar survives) so her support would have high value too.
Benerro is not all that relevant outside of Volantis proper though. Despite the thread occasionally still treating him as if he had power or influence on the faith as a whole, this is not the case.

And I'd just assume Melisandre to be among those perishing in SD.
 
Benerro is not all that relevant outside of Volantis proper though. Despite the thread occasionally still treating him as if he had power or influence on the faith as a whole, this is not the case.

And I'd just assume Melisandre to be among those perishing in SD.
Volantis is something of an inofficial center of the Red Faith, he might not be formally in charge of more than Volantis, but I always had the impression that his policies do echo through most of Essos.
For example the priests we met in Braavos were partially from Volantis and the one Dany knocked out was send back to Volantis (only to suffer an unfortunate accident on the way home).

And the existance of the Imperium only makes the contact and coordination easier than it was before.
 
Volantis is something of an inofficial center of the Red Faith, he might not be formally in charge of more than Volantis, but I always had the impression that his policies do echo through most of Essos.
For example the priests we met in Braavos were partially from Volantis and the one Dany knocked out was send back to Volantis (only to suffer an unfortunate accident on the way home).

And the existance of the Imperium only makes the contact and coordination easier than it was before.
That was only because the Red Faith had no formal presence in Braavos before that time and the first priests happened to be sent there by Volantis. And while Benerro is somewhat important for being the head of the huge congregation of Volantis, we got repeatedly told explicitly that other High Priests in the Free Cities are mostly doing their own thing. Quite a few don't see eye to eye with Benerro at all.

All things considered, the Red Faith is actually a decent model to seek out for other faiths. Encourage parallel power structures in different parts of the Imperium, who all have the freedom to interpret scripture and define their practices on their own, without the wider faith getting a say in what they do.

The thing we really need to gut is the Most Devout and the High Septon. Those should be abolished in their entirety.
 
The thing we really need to gut is the Most Devout and the High Septon. Those should be abolished in their entirety.
That seems easy to do.
As Lucan neither wanted to take control of them nor remove them due to his own moral stance and none of the other Chosen seem to be working with them, they propably don't have any kind of magic or personal power beyond what money can buy in Westeros, making them easy marks.

We just have to deal with the political fallout, which we propably can do.
 
We could just call our own conclave, stack the deck on the votes by letting Bloodraven write the invitations, then use Viserys stupidly high charisma to have the Faith itself vote to abolish the Most Devout and the office of the High Septon.
 
We could just call our own conclave, stack the deck on the votes by letting Bloodraven write the invitations, then use Viserys stupidly high charisma to have the Faith itself vote to abolish the Most Devout and the office of the High Septon.
Last time we tried that kind of thing it went very, very wrong.

Better kill Lucan first, maybe Danelle too, if she isn't lost in the Feywild.
 
OK, I'm back and health-wise I seem to be doing better, cough is back under control with some over the counter medication and I'm leaning against getting a test and just self-isolating again. The reason for that is that I would have to spend 72 hours in a hospital before I could ask to be discharged if the test comes out positive and Romania has some of the worst rates of hospital-born antibiotic resistant infections in the EU. We've had a government fall because of this, indirectly. I just don't think the amount of care doctors can give to someone with light symptoms (cough and no fever) would be worth exposing myself to that kind of environment. I'll just go with being very mindful of my symptoms and try to wait this out.

Not entirely in the right headspace to write right now, too distracted, but I thought I would give you guys a heads-up.
 
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I like my plan more, @Zioneer, @Ace of Scarabs, but from the aspect of pure reason and political bitch slappiness, @Azel's is definitely better, so I'm going to switch over myself.

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OK, I'm back and health-wise I seem to be doing better, cough is back under control with some over the counter medication and I'm leaning against getting a test and just self-isolating again. The reason for that is that I would have to spend 72 hours in a hospital before I could ask to be discharged if the test comes out positive and Romania has some of the worst rates of hospital-born antibiotic resistant infections in the EU. We've had a government fall because of this, indirectly. I just don't think the amount of care doctors can give to someone with light symptoms (cough and no fever) would be worth exposing myself to that kind of environment. I'll just go with being very mindful of my symptoms and try to wait this out.

Not entirely in the right headspace to write right now, too distracted, but I thought I would give you guys a heads-up.
Get well soon, dude.
 
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That seems easy to do.
As Lucan neither wanted to take control of them nor remove them due to his own moral stance and none of the other Chosen seem to be working with them, they propably don't have any kind of magic or personal power beyond what money can buy in Westeros, making them easy marks.

We just have to deal with the political fallout, which we propably can do.
These guys are probably pretty old right? Send them a Vision of Doom with an Undine's Curse attached to it in the middle of the night. They just die quietly in their sleep with no real way to connect it with us.
 
These guys are probably pretty old right? Send them a Vision of Doom with an Undine's Curse attached to it in the middle of the night. They just die quietly in their sleep with no real way to connect it with us.
Killing them is not enough, new ones can be voted in/promoted.
I think Azel meant to destroy the position, not just kill the old men.

Which takes either public action form VIserys that the Faith won't dare to contest, or internal decision by the Faith.
 
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