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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Meet with Stannis Baratheon. With the bargain you've struck with Storm God, he may yet play a part larger than being but a mere Lord...
 
DragonParadox said:
I do have some stuff to discuss with Stannis before the main discussion so there's no need to worry, we won't have an empty update regardless
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Remind me if I'm wrong, but haven't we done Stannis a bunch of solids unprompted in the background over the last year?

Pretty sure that cognitive dissonance we gave him hasn't gotten any better.
 
egoo said:
-[] Healing Tree in the Opaline Vault in the gods district
--[] A source of constant Daylight for the tree has to be bought, or permanently enchanted (via diamond dust and excessive CL) onto the tree.
--[] Take care to inform the officials of the particularities the holy trees of Old Gods hold, and the depth to which their roots go - so as to ensure that you do not inadvertedly damage anything.
--[] Include a Advanced Druid Creature Lotus Leshy as a caretaker of the tree.
-[] Healing Tree for the Xorn
--[] A source of constant Daylight for the tree has to be bought, or permanently enchanted (via diamond dust and excessive CL) onto the tree.
--[] Include a Advanced Druid Creature Lotus Leshy as a caretaker of the tree.
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egoo said:
[] Look into "She Who Brings Enlightenment" on PoE.
-[] Judging by rumors, some of her interests may coincide with yours. It would, however, do good to take her measure in person, similar to Darleth the Delver.
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egoo said:
[] Ask the Shaitan to help us thoroughly examine the Adamantine Golem for traps or problems before purchasing a scroll to Awaken it and diplomance it.
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That's what we had yet to do/get a report on in OV and PoE in general.
FYI.

I'm sleepy naow. G'night ya'll.
 
DragonParadox said:
The same as for an equivalent chromatic or metalic.
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But that's different for each kind of dragon?

An Old Red has 28HD and CL 11.
A Very Old Black has also 28HD but only CL 9.
An Ancient White even has 30 HD, but CL 9 as well.
Very Old Brass with 28HD on the other hand gets an overwhelming CL 13.
A Very Old Mercury already get the CL 13 with 27 HD.

So while there is a general area, I could expect the Very Old Hexdragon wih 28 HD to have anything between CL 9 and 13 naturally, before counting for possible classlevels, for Loredrake or other options.
 
Duesal said:
He's not old enough to chase after immortality quiet yet. He does seem to have a bad habit of enslaving souls, though.
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Ugh - we have an undead god-skin abomination as ally, Qyburn, will teach necromancy in the Scholarium, sacrifice to Yss ... considering that, I see no reason to put him on the 'to be killed' list. Except for looting reasons, of course, but wasn't there a vote about morals not so long ago?
 
Artemis1992 said:
But that's different for each kind of dragon?

An Old Red has 28HD and CL 11.
A Very Old Black has also 28HD but only CL 9.
An Ancient White even has 30 HD, but CL 9 as well.
Very Old Brass with 28HD on the other hand gets an overwhelming CL 13.
A Very Old Mercury already get the CL 13 with 27 HD.

So while there is a general area, I could expect the Very Old Hexdragon wih 28 HD to have anything between CL 9 and 13 naturally, before counting for possible classlevels, for Loredrake or other options.
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Hmm... I'd say a hex dragon would be at the level of a Black dragon,in the middle of the range
 
MTB said:
Ugh - we have an undead god-skin abomination as ally, Qyburn, will teach necromancy in the Scholarium, sacrifice to Yss ... considering that, I see no reason to put him on the 'to be killed' list. Except for looting reasons, of course, but wasn't there a vote about morals not so long ago?
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There was also a vote that specified we get to decide on a case-by-case basis on who we want and who we kill for our own ends.
 
MTB said:
Ugh - we have an undead god-skin abomination as ally, Qyburn, will teach necromancy in the Scholarium, sacrifice to Yss ... considering that, I see no reason to put him on the 'to be killed' list. Except for looting reasons, of course, but wasn't there a vote about morals not so long ago?
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Well, Qyburn is less of an asshole about it.

I mean, I guess if Qyburn was immensly wealthy and as secure in his power as most old dragons are he might be just as bad, but as we know him he isn't.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
Stannis personally saw his parents get killed by storm right as they were returning to Storm's End, so this is probably going to be a significant challenge.
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Not every storm is the Storm God's, not every death is due to the Merling King, etc.

At the end of the day Stannis is a highly practical man. While I don't doubt he harbors ill feelings over his parents, I don't see it being too difficult to point out the obvious that the Storm God wasn't responsible. He doesn't have enough strength in the current age to randomly stir up a storm just to smash a Baratheon and his wife and not even get at their kids.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
Stannis personally saw his parents get killed by storm right as they were returning to Storm's End, so this is probably going to be a significant challenge.
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Not if we convince him it was Stormy's lack of power, causing his inability to control the weather, that lead to his parent's death.

That just helps the argument that Stormy is a weather calming vending machine: insert worship and sacrifices, win godly intervention.
 
Goldfish said:
Not if we convince him it was Stormy's lack of power, causing his inability to control the weather, that lead to his parent's death.

That just helps the argument that Stormy is a weather calming vending machine: insert worship and sacrifices, win godly intervention.
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I think we'll be better off pointing out that the Storm God is currently too weak to randomly waste his strength like that. He was so weak he needed us to provide a storm to destroy the septs, instead of just calling his own storm.
 
I want the golem first, somehow enchant him with a Permanent Legendary Proportions and call him Gargantua.

[X] Duesal

Maybe we can deposit him to the Iron Bank, and be a sort of monetary backing/guardian kinda like what Moist did with the golems surrounding Ank-morpork.
 
Westeros just might end up outright Hellenic-lite by the time we're done...
 
Duesal said:
Not every storm is the Storm God's, not every death is due to the Merling King, etc.
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That wasn't what I quite meant. In his mind at the time, the Gods were either malicious, uncaring, or useless. Which makes them unworthy of worship. And unfortunately, the Storm God is really weak right now and can't do much. So, why worship him?

Judging by his story about the hawk, sentimentality won't go very far. Why the Storm God and not some other more immediately powerful and useful God, if he wants to sacrifice or pay homage to one?

I kind of feel like that it's definitely going to be something that's brought up. The Storm God has a personal connection to the Baratheons which definitely helps, but this is something that Stannis is going to really need to be sold on.

Even when R'hllor proved his power and usefulness through Melisandre multiple times, Stannis was kind of a reluctant believer.
 
Agent Whiskers said:
That wasn't what I quite meant. In his mind at the time, the Gods were either malicious, uncaring, or useless. Which makes them unworthy of worship. And unfortunately, the Storm God is really weak right now and can't do much. So, why worship him?

Judging by his story about the hawk, sentimentality won't go very far. Why the Storm God and not some other more immediately powerful and useful God, if he wants to sacrifice or pay homage to one?

I kind of feel like that it's definitely going to be something that's brought up. The Storm God has a personal connection to the Baratheons which definitely helps, but this is something that Stannis is going to really need to be sold on.

Even when R'hllor proved his power and usefulness through Melisandre multiple times, Stannis was kind of a reluctant believer.
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You're right that it's going to be brought up, but I feel we have good counters for those arguments.

Yes, the Storm God is weak, but that can change. Yss, for example, was brought back from near-death and now serves as a cornerstone of our realm. A cornerstone that Davos himself has consulted multiple times. Gods don't stay weak if they're attended to, and the boons the Storm God offers are quite useful to Stannis. And his enmity with the Deep Ones is another selling point all on its own.

Stannis doesn't need to have emotional attachment to the Storm God, he just needs to see the transactional value of a relationship like that. We already know from one of the Davos interludes that Stannis basically views clerics as potential tools (almost like a new kind of catapult).
 
Duesal said:
You're right that it's going to be brought up, but I feel we have good counters for those arguments.

Yes, the Storm God is weak, but that can change. Yss, for example, was brought back from near-death and now serves as a cornerstone of our realm. A cornerstone that Davos himself has consulted multiple times. Gods don't stay weak if they're attended to, and the boons the Storm God offers are quite useful to Stannis. And his enmity with the Deep Ones is another selling point all on its own.

Stannis doesn't need to have emotional attachment to the Storm God, he just needs to see the transactional value of a relationship like that. We already know from one of the Davos interludes that Stannis basically views clerics as potential tools (almost like a new kind of catapult).
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Stannis: "Gods are just like merchants. Give them enough coin, and they will bring you fruit and flour and claim to sell you the sun."

Viserys: "You really get me."

Stannis: "Same."
 
BTW, it was cool to see that we've successfully Resurrected Laenor Targaryen. His return to life kinda got lost in the shuffle.

Did @DragonParadox ever tell us what class he was, or what level?
 
Don't forget to vote, ya'll. Both options are still up in the air at this point.
 
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