By the way, I am sure it is lost on nobody how quickly the Magnar took a liking to Viserys.

It is very nice to bask in the cultural moors most appreciative of how awesomely deadly we are.

And yet again ironic that some of our most notorious deeds are witnessed by those few who have a complete inability or unlikelihood of sharing them, seeing as how the Thenns speak mostly the Old Tongue and are insular. Even if we brought them south I half expect them to embellish the story of the mountain exploding so wildly that no one will believe it, or else be coy and cagy as hell about it.

Of course than again even Styr is enjoyable to be around compared to Dalla and her happy hodge-podge of murderous psychopaths who are only not going after solely the architects of their continual oppression but podunk peasants instead because of bluntly couched threats labeled suggestions with do not return to sender stamps on them.

I thoroughly suggest making their settlement in the Stepstones BLANG as hell. We were looking for farmers for Plan: Mountain View.
The Thenns are totally getting pimped out, starting with a Heart Tree of their own right off the bat.
 
Fuckin', make their rims trimmed with diamonds, motherfuckers! Force effects for the suspension! Did somebody say riverine?

If they don't have a mountain top keep on top of a multi terraced farm community vastly more fertile and lush than they are used to, I will fume. Only the best for the first decent First Men leftovers we've come across.
 
I am not conspiring to lavish honors and gifts upon the Thenns solely because it could have been Dalla and I want to later point out, compare, and contrast that the Thenns have literally been fighting the only war that matters for centuries and millennia, in conditions somehow better and infinitely worse for being so close to an apocalypse in the making, actively prodding their defenses even when magic was at its nadir.

And her fun bunch of rapists and murderers who's only distinction between honorable battle is who picked the target for them.

Seriously screw Dalla. Be more like Styr, or get killed by a Seven Cleric. Do we get rerolls for better voices for the Old Gods, too? It's only fair.

Bloodraven: *facepalm* "Deep breaths. It's only another year."

I'm TRYING Brynden, but you're making this difficult to stomach!
 
Should we get some ink, parchment (from our cloak) and bloodwish a copy of our map for them? Harden it too, I suppose?

I'm pretty sure we need to nap to get enough spells back to bottle everyone we're taking back regardless (being this low is not fantastic) so this seems like a useful thing to offer now.

Possibly bottle a few and then nap and get the rest, but that's below 'vote zoom level' so... Eh.
 
I am not conspiring to lavish honors and gifts upon the Thenns solely because it could have been Dalla and I want to later point out, compare, and contrast that the Thenns have literally been fighting the only war that matters for centuries and millennia, in conditions somehow better and infinitely worse for being so close to an apocalypse in the making, actively prodding their defenses even when magic was at its nadir.

And her fun bunch of rapists and murderers who's only distinction between honorable battle is who picked the target for them.

Seriously screw Dalla. Be more like Styr, or get killed by a Seven Cleric. Do we get rerolls for better voices for the Old Gods, too? It's only fair.

Bloodraven: *facepalm* "Deep breaths. It's only another year."

I'm TRYING Brynden, but you're making this difficult to stomach!
On the bright side she should be beginning to realize that ultimately she's expendable and that the Old Gods will not complain if we get too annoyed with her. They like us far more than her. I'm planning on getting her as a witness for the Tree of the Dawn Age to intimidate the fuck out of her.

But yeah, if she doesn't fall in line after her usefulness expires, the Seven Cleric will need to beat us to it.
 
We promised land for Dalla right? Can it just be small? Like she hasn't really done much for us?

Like she's suppose to be wise or something? Then I think about her actions and talks with us.

If she complains.....Well we are the Rulers of the lands when we have it.
 
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We promised land for Dalla right? Can it just be small? Like she hasn't really done much for us?

Like she's suppose to be wise or something? Then I think about her actions and talks with us.

If she complains.....Well we are the Rulers of the land now.
At the end of the day, she's going to need to prove to us that she's worth keeping around. We can give some proper farmland to the Mountain Clans along with making their lands fertile so that the cycle of raiding and revenge killings is broken, but beyond that we aren't obligated to do much else.

But regarding Dalla, ideally she just gets thrown at the Others. She's annoying but she's still a mid-level PC. Not to mention that at the moment she's a good distraction for the Clerics of the Seven who would otherwise be completely focused on us.
 
I think the thing that leaves me most sour is even those who don't bow down before Viserys, Dread Sorcerer Extraordinaire, at least want something and know how to angle towards getting us to consider them in ambivalent if not favorable terms.

Dalla almost went out of her way to rub every wrong string and touch every wrong nerve. I get it Dalla, you had to and still have to fight for every scrap of influence and power in your clan. Now sit at the kiddie table until you can blow up mountains too, in which case we will pencil you in for the "wildfire-infused dragonsteel shrapnel fuel air" carpet bombing run.

Though the above is largely reactionary which is why I've never seriously proposed killing her, or even killing her after the invasion explicitly. I don't think we need our ass kissed, it is just really annoying if every so often she only comes up as a plot point because she is planning to do something we find tremendously fucking stupid, and we have to 'manage' her.

If you're doing things right, you send the right message to unruly vassals once, and they become loyal and dutiful, if not completely obedient, because you fulfill all of your obligations towards them and in exchange they implicitly try not to cause you any headaches under pain of death.

After the conquest, she gets her one chance. After that, the punishment fits the myriad crimes.
 
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I'm kind of hoping we can get the Magnar title at some point by getting the Free Folk to flock to our banner. Something about it just appeals to me.
 
I bet she's going to just walk in where we set judgments after invasion thinking she's is in a great position about to get the Eyrie.
 
Everyone, raise your hands if you find it logical for Viserys to google "maid outfits" and dress his maid constructs thus, as to properly blend in.


They are the caretakers of the house and its inhabitants, aren't they? Maintenance, security, babysitting, and whatever else is necessary.

Don't be racist against the dreams of these sorta-undead sorta-construct sorta-summon to be real maids.
They are Governesses, instructors and Oathsworn Guardians not maids. There is a distinct difference.


I think it'll turn up as horribly insufficient in the face of the Long Night. This is just investments in advance. Same with the Fungal Darkenbeasts.

In any case, when we come back to return the Magnar's people so they can begin their evacuation in earnest, I want to give them like six or so Advanced Druid Creature Lotus Leshys with them. Insanely useful as healers and such.
I have the opposite urge. Knock them out and drag them South for their own bloody good, the bloody idiots. They can do more good fighting beside us to reclaim the North from the Others.
 
I have the opposite urge. Knock them out and drag them South for their own bloody good, the bloody idiots. They can do more good fighting beside us to reclaim the North from the Others.
I'm also in favor of doing everything we can to get them south to the Stepstones. That proposal was only in the event that we fail to convince them which, all things considered, is highly unlikely.
As you listen to the storyteller's account of the Farman expedition and the scouring of the barrows you realize why the Magnar thought he needed that leeway. The barrows had indeed been cleansed, with steel and hoarded magic, rune-scribed bronze to slay the wraiths and shadows, weirwood spear to keep the wight lords down, but there are yet more battles to be fought, ones the Thenns cannot face alone.
What. What the fuck? How many of them are there in these barrows?! Even with lesser variants these sound insanely tough.

This brings up several questions.

1. How many wight lords were there?
2. How strong were the wight lords compared to the Mythic Ancient Wight Lord we just captured?
3. How strong is Magnar that he managed to kill them?
4. How many wight lords are left? If we're evacuating the Thenn we'll need to clear out all the barrows before we go.
 
What was Dallas reason for wanting a dragon anyway? Like for raids? Just find it a little weird and stupid.
Pretty much. She had the most moronic plan to hide the dragon, too, and no understanding of the fact that everyone would hunt her down the second they caught wind of it.

If it didn't fuck with our plans so much I was seriously tempted to just watch it happen.
 
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@superguy2876, I still think the original theme, not the orchestral version, is more apt envisioning the story of Sorcerer's Deep ala GOT's opening sequence. Too bad, GOT stopped at season 4... No, there are no more seasons after that, what are you talking about :V
 
Lasciel is not Lash, though tearing Lasciel into pieces so Lash can reform I would be on board with.
I was more thinking that Lasciel has the potential to become Lash, small part of her did so after all?

Changing the whole of the demon is a somewhat larger project, but Viserys does not shy back from changing gods, so it's far from unthinkable.
 
I'm also in favor of doing everything we can to get them south to the Stepstones. That proposal was only in the event that we fail to convince them which, all things considered, is highly unlikely.

What. What the fuck? How many of them are there in these barrows?! Even with lesser variants these sound insanely tough.

This brings up several questions.

1. How many wight lords were there?
2. How strong were the wight lords compared to the Mythic Ancient Wight Lord we just captured?
3. How strong is Magnar that he managed to kill them?
4. How many wight lords are left? If we're evacuating the Thenn we'll need to clear out all the barrows before we go.
I'm wondering just how strong the average Thenn warrior is to be able to fight in this condition against Wight Lords and their minions and who knows what else.
 
I was more thinking that Lasciel has the potential to become Lash, small part of her did so after all?

Changing the whole of the demon is a somewhat larger project, but Viserys does not shy back from changing gods, so it's far from unthinkable.
Eh, the circumstances were so unique that it would be virtually impossible.

Just the fact that Harry knows Lash was an actual thing messes with the odds.

Could you theoretically get a new Lash? Yeah. But that'd be a distinct entity from the original.

Tho I agree with Deliste it could be an interesting pair and solve the "must be forever a lone wolf" issue by having a real imaginary girlfriend.

Not quite as good as Ana, of course. But then, nothing quite matches the OTP.
 
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Regarding the Thenns, maybe we can convince them by stressing that we need them for the coming counterattack (and kinda downplay their position being strategically utterly hopeless).
No retreat but "choosing a more advantaged position".

Mummy Maids. Of course!

Harry/Lash and nothing else, No I am not appeased by their child living on.
Dear Deliste,

I find myself in great agreement with respect to your excellent taste of waifu.

Yours sincerely and forever in honor and fudge,
-Me
 
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I'm also in favor of doing everything we can to get them south to the Stepstones. That proposal was only in the event that we fail to convince them which, all things considered, is highly unlikely.

What. What the fuck? How many of them are there in these barrows?! Even with lesser variants these sound insanely tough.

This brings up several questions.

1. How many wight lords were there?
2. How strong were the wight lords compared to the Mythic Ancient Wight Lord we just captured?
3. How strong is Magnar that he managed to kill them?
4. How many wight lords are left? If we're evacuating the Thenn we'll need to clear out all the barrows before we go.
Note, I'm expecting "wight lord" refers to anything from a wight who commands half a dozen undead warriors to the CR 17 Blightfire-wielding Mythic Motherfucker we fought. Who was a Winterwight, not a Wight Lord.

It's a generic title. I expect they fought things like the one wight Valaena fought at the Wall.
 
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