Vote tally - A Light from the Shadow (Tolkien CKII)

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  • [X] One after the other
    [X] Plan Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness
    [X] Arnor
    -[X] Offer to go to the Barrow Downs and take care of the Wights there, personally and permanently. Confer with Miriel as to how widespread the wights are and choose backup from among the Elves, Men and Dwarves as available. Preferably some Lothlorien Elves, plus some Dunedain to act as guides and trackers, given that it's their region and they know it best. With proper manpower, you should still be able to spend a fair bit of time in Moria seeing to your people.
    -[X] Meanwhile, Imladris should work with Miriel to scout the northern lands and see how much of the area can be immediately secured and if a front can or should be preemptively established North of the Angle. Whatever happens in the Barrow Downs will either reveal Nazgul presence or, if absent, indicate that it's actually in the North where the Witch King (or whoever else) are working from at present. One of the Istari or Glorfindel may need to be involved in this.
    -[X] Meanwhile, steps could be taken to make Arnor properly habitable again, starting with Enedwaith. Whatever stasis is on the land, whether because of the Rule of Ringbearers in ancient times or the Witch King's last act of spite, or both, should be lifted and the land made ready to resettle. As it is now, it's all just going to waste. Any two Istari and perhaps Glorfindel should take lead on this. They can take a time to weigh odds and what effort would be required to achieve this, as well as provide a time frame for what will clearly be a long-term, concerted effort. It should be possible to do in stages (Enedwaith and Minhiriath should get priority).
    -[X] By next year, you should have finished dealing with the Barrow Wights and the situation North will be sufficiently scouted. At that point, the decision can be taken to either wage war in the North, or start a concerted effort between Dunedain and Rivendell, or the Grey Havens by the West, to see the ethereal threats dealt with and gloom banished.
    -[X] Long-term, once Enedwaith, at the very least, is cleansed and made ready, the area would make a good place to establish anyone if they agree to abide by the law and custom of Arnor. Perhaps thoughts should be given to the idea of letting the Dunlendings settle there, under Dunedain supervision and guidance. Pacts can be drafted to ensure the claim of the Dunedain on Arnor is maintained, while also removing the Dunlendings from being a threat to Rohan, who are dealing with enough problems due to the Orcs assailing them right now.
    --[X] Perhaps some of the less reclusive elves could take over from Radagast and teach Dunlendings how to make better tools and use their land to the fullest? Then Radagast could help with the cleansing of the gloom upon Arnor, even as the Dunlendings would learn better living and how to better use their existing lands no matter what happens later. Contingent on them stopping the feud with Rohan of course.
    -[X] In any case, immediate action should be taken regarding the Harad situation as well. Perhaps start by sending spies and establishing an underground movement to rescue people and support rebellion? It would probably be difficult if the skin tone and bearing is so very different between the North people and theirs though. Deliver weapons? The lack of means to fight back historically makes the difference between a snuffed rebellion and a successful revolution. All that remains is to figure out who can make and deliver the weapons, and who to deliver them to.
    --[X] Long-term, Umbar will probably have to be dealt with and its power broken before Harad can act freely. A rebellion in Harad might have to be staged while a Fellowship of Heroes ventures into Umbar to hunt down and eradicate the Sauron cult.
    -[X] You yourself would be best positioned to debunk Sauron's claims of divinity, being the closest thing to a peer currently walking the world, but it is too soon to forsake your responsibilities to the newest Children of Eru. Additionally, you are not blind to the possibility of Adunaphael's open activities being a blatant attempt to draw you and the other powers out. The possibility of Unhoused umaiar fleeing south in the wake of Arnor's cleansing is also worth considering: it would do the most good, perhaps, if you were in Harad or Umbar at the same time as the Unhoused flee in that direction, if they do, so that you can deal with them and any sorcerers they bind themselves to if it comes down to it.
    [X] The Rings
    [X] Braca
    [X] Hassan
    [X] pass to Morwen
    [x] Your projects for the Orcs
    [X] Plan Sesquipedalian Loquaciousness
    [X] Hassan
    [X] Gandalf
    [X] Gandalf
    [X] Miriel
    [X] Sauron has stopped to only search for the Ring and now bend his will towards war
    -[X] Discuss options: Defensive alliance, preemtive attack on Minas Morgul or Dol Guldur, putting our own efforts towards finding the Ring to make sure it is denied to the foe? What are our priorities, without those any resistance will be in pieces to be easily swallowed for the enemy?
    [X] Braca
    [X] Hassan
    [x] The reintroduction of the Men of Dunland into the wider stage, and a clear defining of their territories for future diplomatic purposes.
    [x] The 'Evil' that Hassan claims has risen in the south. Anything involving the Black Numenorean bears discussion.
    [x] The condition of the orcs present and the efforts being made.
    [X] Braca
    [X] Morwen
    [x] The reintroduction of the Men of Dunland into the wider stage, and a clear defining of their territories for future diplomatic purposes.
    [x] The 'Evil' that Hassan claims has risen in the south. Anything involving the Black Numenorean bears discussion.
    [x] The condition of the orcs present and the efforts being made.
    [X] About our dream and what could it mean about Sauron's plans
    [X] Braca
    [X] Hassan
    [x] The warning dream you have had. Sauron clearly must be dealt with.
    [x] The reintroduction of the Men of Dunland into the wider stage, and a clear defining of their territories for future diplomatic purposes.
    [x] The 'Evil' that Hassan claims has risen in the south. Anything involving the Black Numenorean bears discussion.
    [x] The condition of the orcs present and the efforts being made.
    [x] The stories of returned heroes and kings and how they're undoubtedly Sauron's Nazgul.
    -[x] Use this lead-in to touch on the issue of the rings and how the whole business of trapping the Fea in the Hroa works. Ask Saruman to offer any insight into the implications.
    --[x] Use our shiny diplomacy stat to make sure Thrain's sensibilities aren't trampled over or his honor besmirched. Also make sure Gandalf doesn't butt in needlessly, or at least doesn't cut Saruman off as he seemed prone to do when he is concerned.
    [x] Any issues the others wish to raise.
    [X] Braca
    [X] Hassan
    [X] Morwen
    [x] The warning dream you have had. Sauron clearly must be dealt with.
    [x] The reintroduction of the Men of Dunland into the wider stage, and a clear defining of their territories for future diplomatic purposes.
    [x] The 'Evil' that Hassan claims has risen in the south. Anything involving the Black Numenorean bears discussion.
    [x] The condition of the orcs present and the efforts being made.
    [x] The stories of returned heroes and kings and how they're undoubtedly Sauron's Nazgul.
    -[x] Use this lead-in to touch on the issue of the rings and how the whole business of trapping the Fea in the Hroa works. Ask Saruman to offer any insight into the implications.
    --[x] Use our shiny diplomacy stat to make sure Thrain's sensibilities aren't trampled over or his honor besmirched. Also make sure Gandalf doesn't butt in needlessly, or at least doesn't cut Saruman off as he seemed prone to do when he is concerned.
    [x] Any issues the others wish to raise.
    [X] Gandalf
    [X] Miriel
    [X] Sauron has stopped to only search for the Ring and now bend his will towards war
    -[X] Discuss options: Defensive alliance, preemtive attack on Minas Morgul or Dol Guldur, putting our own efforts towards finding the Ring to make sure it is denied to the foe? What are our priorities, without those any resistance will be in pieces to be easily swallowed for the enemy?
    [x] Saruman
    [x] Braca and Morwen together
    [X] About our dream and what could it mean about Sauron's plans
    [X] Together
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