The Earthling's Search; a Stellaris Quest

[X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
[X] Hyperspace Travel
[X] Energy Weapons
 
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[x] Drop Xenophile for...
-[x] Materialist
[x] Hyperspace Travel
[x] Projectile Weapons

Xenophiles are boring, and not really a necessary trait to have, Materialist provides more bonuses
Adhoc vote count started by Ghostdevil on Oct 21, 2017 at 9:36 AM, finished with 27 posts and 19 votes.

  • [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [x] Hyperspace Travel
    [x] Missile Weapons
    [x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [x] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [x] Hyperspace Travel
    [x] Projectile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
    [x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[x] Militarist
    [x] Hyperspace Travel
    [x] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [x] Projectile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Warp Travel
    [x] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[x] Pacifist
    [x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[x] Spiritualist
    [x] Hyperspace Travel
    [x] Missile Weapons
 
[X] Drop Xenophile for...
-[X] Materialist
[x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[x] Militarist
[x] Hyperspace Travel
[x] Missile Weapons
 
[X] Drop Xenophile for...
-[X] Materialist
[x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[x] Militarist
[x] Hyperspace Travel
[x] Missile Weapons
 
Not true at all. Being friendly with and interested in fellow sapients in the galaxy is fun and exciting.
No its boring, i'd rather be xenophobic pacifistic Inward perfectionists, that's 1000X more entertaining and you don't even get to war or do diplomacy.
Xenophiles is a waste of a trait since its pretty much a diplo boost, but you don't need it to build massive alliances
Adhoc vote count started by Ghostdevil on Oct 21, 2017 at 11:42 AM, finished with 31 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[x] Militarist
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [x] Projectile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [x] Projectile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[x] Pacifist
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[x] Spiritualist
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons

Adhoc vote count started by Ghostdevil on Oct 21, 2017 at 11:46 AM, finished with 31 posts and 21 votes.

  • [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[x] Militarist
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [x] Projectile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[X] Materialist
    [X] Warp Travel
    [x] Projectile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Warp Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [x] Drop Xenophile for...
    -[x] Pacifist
    [X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
    -[x] Spiritualist
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Missile Weapons
    [X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
    [X] Hyperspace Travel
    [X] Energy Weapons
 
No its boring, i'd rather be xenophobic pacifistic Inward perfectionists, that's 1000X more entertaining and you don't even get to war or do diplomacy.

No, xenophobic pacifistic inward perfectionists are boring while egalitarian xenophiles are 10,000 times more entertaining and you do get to got to war or do diplomacy in both.

Xenophiles is a waste of a trait since its pretty much a diplo boost, but you don't need it to build massive alliances

And what about fluff and RP and the narrative? Game mechanics aren't everything.
 
No, xenophobic pacifistic inward perfectionists are boring while egalitarian xenophiles are 10,000 times more entertaining and you do get to got to war or do diplomacy in both.



And what about fluff and RP and the narrative? Game mechanics aren't everything.
Uh No their not? Making massive alliances means the game is to easy, soloing and maneuvering as xenophobes is harder and more fulfilling a victory
Nevermind that inward perfectionist have to make use of Vassals and such to war (Since you can spawn xenophobic same race vassals that don't have inward perfection)
Inward Perfectionists cannot war, inleast your losing population and planets in which case you have a few aggressive casus bellies.

I was talking about the Fluff, just in a mechanical sense
Xenophiles are easier to do diplomacy with but it doesn't really offer anything else, Materialists Narrative bonus is a propensity towards research and robotics, both of which are FAAAR superior to a propensity for Diplomacy.
Even more so since Tech allows for easier diplomacy, since superiority of tech and arms means people are less willing to fight you.

Edit: Which reminds me
[X] Drop Xenophile for...
-[X] Materialist
[x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[x] Militarist
[x] Hyperspace Travel
[x] Projectile Weapons
Edit2: I really don't know how the OP is taking the tally
Adhoc vote count started by Ghostdevil on Oct 21, 2017 at 12:00 PM, finished with 33 posts and 21 votes.
 
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Uh No their not? Making massive alliances means the game is to easy, soloing and maneuvering as xenophobes is harder and more fulfilling a victory
Nevermind that inward perfectionist have to make use of Vassals and such to war (Since you can spawn xenophobic same race vassals that don't have inward perfection)
Inward Perfectionists cannot war, inleast your losing population and planets in which case you have a few aggressive casus bellies.

And you would be wrong because I find it more fulfilling to unite the galaxy as peaceful as possible and turn my empire and federation into a hi-tech, utopian, paradise than playing as bunch of arseholes. That's just boring and unenjoyable.

And with egalitarian xenophiles, you can have allies that you work with your allies and protectorates in addition to helping them and protecting them.

Inward Perfections can go to war you yourself claim in a contradicting sentence.

I was talking about the Fluff, just in a mechanical sense
Xenophiles are easier to do diplomacy with but it doesn't really offer anything else, Materialists Narrative bonus is a propensity towards research and robotics, both of which are FAAAR superior to a propensity for Diplomacy

Nah, working together in harmony to unite the galaxy and those in live in is far better than a single polity having a bunch of fancy tech. Research and robotics are both 'FAARR' inferior to propensity compared to friendship and unity.
 
And you would be wrong because I find it more fulfilling to unite the galaxy as peaceful as possible and turn my empire and federation into a hi-tech, utopian, paradise than playing as bunch of arseholes. That's just boring and unenjoyable.

And with egalitarian xenophiles, you can have allies that you work with your allies and protectorates in addition to helping them and protecting them.

Inward Perfections can go to war you yourself claim in a contradicting sentence.



Nah, working together in harmony to unite the galaxy and those in live in is far better than a single polity having a bunch of fancy tech. Research and robotics are both 'FAARR' inferior to propensity compared to friendship and unity.
Lets just agree to disagree
You find allying everyone fun
I find Soloing against the universe or trying to maneuver around the fact that I am xenophobic to find strategic allies that I will one day betray, all the while teching up to achieve complete Human supremacy over the universe fun.
Nevermind that Xenophobes can ALSO have vassals and Protectorates
Well as long as your not fanatic purifiers Which is super hard

Edit: no Inward perfectionists cannot go to war, in least specific conditions happen. (Or someone declares on them)
Edit2: You can use Vassals to wage Proxy War, but that's not what I was meaning
 
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@shepsquared
Sooo... how are you tallying the votes?
By line?
or block?
Because by block means the highest vote is 4 :p
While line things are in the double digits
 
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Vote Tally : The Earthling's Search; a Stellaris Quest | Page 3 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 54-89]
##### NetTally 1.9.7
[X] Hyperspace Travel
No. of Votes: 12
[X] Missile Weapons
No. of Votes: 12
[X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
No. of Votes: 10
[X] Warp Travel
No. of Votes: 10
[X] Energy Weapons
No. of Votes: 7
[x] Drop Xenophile for...
-[x] Materialist
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[X] Materialist
No. of Votes: 5
[x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[x] Militarist
No. of Votes: 4
[x] Projectile Weapons
No. of Votes: 3
[x] Drop Xenophile for...
-[x] Pacifist
No. of Votes: 1
[x] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[x] Spiritualist
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 22
 
[X] Change Egalitarian to non-fanatic and pick up...
-[X] Materialist
[X] Hyperspace Travel
[X] Missile Weapons
 
[X] The Inheritors of Terra

[X] Keep the ethos of the United Nations as it is
[X] Warp Travel
Adhoc vote count started by sidestory on Oct 24, 2017 at 1:50 AM, finished with 46 posts and 26 votes.
 
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Okay, vote closed. The last part of nation generation will be cultural fluff stuff.

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Adhoc vote count started by sidestory on Oct 24, 2017 at 1:50 AM, finished with 46 posts and 26 votes.
 
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