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IIRC, it sounded to me like Dummy's problems merely caused explosive population growth. Not sure though.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
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Except Mari also knew that we could scale up such that it could make airbombing viable despite the accuracy problem.
I just...I'm honestly worried about Jiraiya's reaction to this, and I don't think showing him our bigger fireball is gonna be worth it.
glurgugh
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
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- Ginnungagap.
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- S/H/T
Maybe ask Jiraiya about encryption and ways to send compressed information, maybe a sort of "tap code" like morse already exists for subtle short range communications?
Once you have the encoding sorted out, it's trivial to start using an encryption scheme.
If that was what he was implying, it's almost certain that he's wrong about chakra beasts coming from the OP henge - there's far too many different species of chakra beasts out there for that to be the case IMO. People would have realized the problem before that many could come about. (also, who would transform into a queen chakra ant the size of a regular ant?)
If there's truth to the early henge users transforming into animals and not being able to turn back, then they would have stayed intelligent, so I think it might be more likely that the Sage would have used them as the basis of the summon realm. Just use his med-nin bullshit to customize them a bit further, link them to summon scrolls, and then their descendants are the current summons.
Again, the responsible thing to do is give him a demonstration under controlled conditions, and voice our concerns. So something like this.
- Fireball: Give Jiraiya a demonstration of the Macerator + burning log combination.
- Before the demonstration, note that you tested this before coming to Leaf and hearing his warning about the Watchers, and you want his thoughts on if it might be a problem to use. Explain the current level is that of a B-rank fire jutsu, but could potentially be made bigger with a Macerator with bigger storage capacity, though probably not to the level of destroying civilization with a single use.
- If it's a problem, suggest that the use be kept a clan secret to be used only when it's needed, and only at something around the current level.
- Before the demonstration, note that you tested this before coming to Leaf and hearing his warning about the Watchers, and you want his thoughts on if it might be a problem to use. Explain the current level is that of a B-rank fire jutsu, but could potentially be made bigger with a Macerator with bigger storage capacity, though probably not to the level of destroying civilization with a single use.
Dissonance
Luna's Luna
- Location
- Ginnungagap.
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- S/H/T
I think that if we show sealcraft weapons, they need to be something that's not just "here's a bigger bomb!" (Note: this isn't saying "don't think of sealcraft bombs!", just don't show them.
... Can we get seals for reducing friction, altering mass(That one makes me afraid of what the math-crowd would do with it, though), continuous release of a wire from a storage seal?(I'm thinking something crazy like Bean's tactics from the starfield in the battle room in Ender's Game.) Just bouncing ideas.
I understand if people don't want to spend XP right now, but if not then we should do some research instead.
Any update that we get a training/research timeslot we should spend it. Otherwise we're just throwing it away. If we don't use it to train then we should use it to research. And it's not like we don't have projects galore to choose from! But even if we didn't, and we just chose to research the dumbest seal we could think of (the example that comes to mind is a seal that lights up in the presence of poison with a 99% false positive rate) that would still be better than doing nothing with our timeslot, because at least that would decrease the TNs of seals that share similarities to it.
Please. The action plan says we're making a lab for the invisible ink project, so let's get some research done.
Any update that we get a training/research timeslot we should spend it. Otherwise we're just throwing it away. If we don't use it to train then we should use it to research. And it's not like we don't have projects galore to choose from! But even if we didn't, and we just chose to research the dumbest seal we could think of (the example that comes to mind is a seal that lights up in the presence of poison with a 99% false positive rate) that would still be better than doing nothing with our timeslot, because at least that would decrease the TNs of seals that share similarities to it.
Please. The action plan says we're making a lab for the invisible ink project, so let's get some research done.
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Luna's Luna
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- Ginnungagap.
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I think it would be better to simply tell Jiraiya of the existence of the Macerator Fireball and the specs on it, and let him decide if he wants to see it. keep most other things though, like making it before hearing of his warnings about the Watchers, and actually testing it previously, too.
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[X] Research Hazou: Magnet Seal
[X] Research Hazou: Locking Seal
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Vecht
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Ehhhhhh...
You probably will want to use some bits for error detection and correction (and probably also need at least something like a Hamming code rather than straightforward naive encodings).
...Hmm. Probably susceptible to MitM attacks. Literally, someone gets between two towers, puts up a big screen, intercepts messages and then does whatever they want. Definitely need at least some form of rudimentary encryption at any rate. Otherwise we'd be practically broadcasting information.
Grah. I can't stomach this. Can we just leave it up to the Nara? I don't think we can teach Hazou coding theory.
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Ok, how does this look?
Frankly, we should be holding off on everything with a nasty failure mode until after the vote. The last thing delicate political maneuvering requires is the subjects triggering a rift into existential-hazard-space or even just triggering an embarrassing alarm right now.
Just a couple more days and then we can go crazy. In the meantime, focus on securing the vote in our favor.
Just a couple more days and then we can go crazy. In the meantime, focus on securing the vote in our favor.
Looks fine to me. Barring a better plan coming along...
[X] Action Plan: Much Ado About Nothing
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
For research, I still want to look at Purifier variants. A mid-range goal along those lines is a seal that separates salt from water, both making the water safe to drink and giving an easy source of salt. Once we have a few variants under our belts we can look at filtering solids until we can do things like separate iron molecules from dirt or get some of the more exotic substances.
Good enough for me, but then again I just want us to research literally anything.
[X] Research Hazou: Desalinator Seal
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- The Maple Syrup Mountains
[X] Research Hazou: Desalinator Seal
Ehhhhhh...
You probably will want to use some bits for error detection and correction (and probably also need at least something like a Hamming code rather than straightforward naive encodings).
...Hmm. Probably susceptible to MitM attacks. Literally, someone gets between two towers, puts up a big screen, intercepts messages and then does whatever they want. Definitely need at least some form of rudimentary encryption at any rate. Otherwise we'd be practically broadcasting information.
Grah. I can't stomach this. Can we just leave it up to the Nara? I don't think we can teach Hazou coding theory.
We can give it to Shikamaru and the Nara and they'll handle encryption.
I believe that the pantograph required geometry knowledge. Does Hazo has that in-character knowledge? Also, he's pretty terrible at MechApt, so he will likely screw up making a prototype.
You do realize that you can get salt just by boiling water? Just research the Heating Seal.
I also want us to start playing around with the basic seals that Jiraiya gave to us.