I read it as only the sealmaster who directly infused the seal that birthed them gets to be an admin, and since neither Sage nor Dummy are sealmasters, neither qualify as admins.
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
I read it as only the sealmaster who directly infused the seal that birthed them gets to be an admin, and since neither Sage nor Dummy are sealmasters, neither qualify as admins.
Rihaku
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Then the sealer would just tell the lupchanz to obey Sage and Dummy as if they were him. Sage and Dummy have so many ways of ensuring the absolute loyalty of their minions it's not even funny.
Plus, why would Sage or Dummy tolerate the existence of lupchanz not under their control? They're more than powerful enough to wipe out any such conspiracy if it opposed their interests even marginally.
There are so many follow-up questions for Kagome it could consume multiple updates.
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If we are to accept Kagome's explanation, we have to come to the conclusion that the Sage and Dummy are, while very powerful, not all-powerful. For example, the Villages wiped out Whirlpool which probably wasn't intended. And Dummy hasn't conquered the world yet. They're not gods.
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Pretty sure we're still in the discussion box with Kagome. So we can probably do one update with follow-up questions? I'd suggest our action plan just be questions for Kagome, potentially with us talking with Kagome and Mari about what our plans for the future might be.
I'm sure we will find a way to fix this, but honestly, I'm struggling here.
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Dissonance
Luna's Luna
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The Sage is Orochimaru.
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Jello_Raptor
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So in grad school, which is self selected for smart people, this happens all the time. People often skip steps and expect everyone around them to keep up.
I find this completely believable since this both happens to me and I do it all the time.
Yuuup.
Yeah, it's nice, we're seeing her become more confident in our trust, support and approval of her.
Bahaha +1
@eaglejarl: I notice you never said that you didn't intend to troll us.
Good to know, worth experimenting with.
Also there's inks which will denature under heat. Don't know how hard they'd be to make though.
Damnit Oli, I'm not even a QM and even I know you have to change the password from "password123" and no "password1234" isn't secure either.
Oh please yes.
Mind, this assumes that the Hokage knew about the conversation and cared. If he's human, then there's a solid chance he didn't know to care at all.
Thank you. I was thinking we needed to do this at some point. I'll go through the list with a more precise analysis at some point.
[x] Research Hazou: Larger Capacity Storage Seal
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Passwords12345 and password123456 are perfectly fine, though.Damnit Oli, I'm not even a QM and even I know you have to change the password from "password123" and no "password1234" isn't secure either.
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@eaglejarl @Velorien @OliWhail Are we still in the secured room, or did we leave it (wanted to ask if we could ask follow-up questions to Kagome).
Noumero
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If Kagome is right about lupchanzen and scorch squads, then it's a secret the Hokage keeps even from Jiraiya, and he knows Kagome knows it. He would need to be a fool to not keep a close eye on Kagome, especially in Leaf.
On second thoughts, I'm inclined to agree with @faflec. If the Sage and Dummy as described by Kagome exist, it's over and we're doomed.
If they're behind every bloodline, then they're behind the Nara and the Mori bloodlines. If they could grant themselves the bloodlines and have an ounce of common sense, they've granted themselves every intelligence-enhancing bloodline they could create.
... Unless it's impossible because they can't change their brains in such major ways? Or didn't want to get the laziness/lack_of_creativity downsides of these bloodlines? I wouldn't bet on that, though.
On another note, do you think we should ask Kagome what chakra is, and about the world before chakra? He seems to know something about it.
Now that I think about it, Kagome also mentioned 'devouring sun' at one point (after Hazou proposed a seal named 'uum'). I know it's a Ra reference, and at close inspection would probably turn out to be just a sealing failure horror story, but maybe ask about it too?
And then it will turn out Marked for Death is a Ra AU fanfiction. It fits.
I don't want to spend too much time on asking Kagome-sensei questions. I get that it's important, but it's not like he will be unavailable. We'll have our own compound soon enough.
The more important thing is to end the war with Mist with the most minimal of casualties to prepare the ninja world for the Real Threat, whenever or wherever it may occur.
The more important thing is to end the war with Mist with the most minimal of casualties to prepare the ninja world for the Real Threat, whenever or wherever it may occur.
Noumero
Omit Needless Words
I understand the sentiment, but it won't take more than a few hours in-quest and one (at most one-and-a-half) update, yet it would allow us to adjust our long-term plans much more accurately. A few days' difference in-quest is a few weeks' difference in-reality, so waiting to ask follow-up questions for a few days is putting on hold meaningful discussions about long-term plans for a few weeks.
Kalkin
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I wonder why the supposed life force stealing technique can't be used on chakra monsters.
Also now that I think of it the original transformation technique must be entirely different if it could change a chakra system. The two techniques are entirely different.
Also now that I think of it the original transformation technique must be entirely different if it could change a chakra system. The two techniques are entirely different.
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Cariyaga
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Holy shit. If Noburi learns to use medical ninjutsu through mist, he can fix Dummy.
...that aside.
Things to do:
1)Ask Kagome more questions
2)Show off Macerator v2 (J's only seen v1 which isn't good for combat) and Banshees to Jiraiya; do invisible ink experiments.
3)Apologize to Mari for not talking to her sooner about her revelations back in Iron; Hazou never held it against her.
...that aside.
Things to do:
1)Ask Kagome more questions
2)Show off Macerator v2 (J's only seen v1 which isn't good for combat) and Banshees to Jiraiya; do invisible ink experiments.
3)Apologize to Mari for not talking to her sooner about her revelations back in Iron; Hazou never held it against her.
If they're smart (bearing in mind that Kagome thinks they're idiots) then they've created dozens of intelligence enhancing bloodlines in other ninja that they've brainfixed to just sit in an office answering questions all day like a good little oracle.
Edit: shit this is exactly what the Nara are. Except for one bloodline, not several.
Should be easy then. Just ask J for notes (if they aren't in the catalogue).
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Wait, what? Doesn't Dummy have all jutsu meaning he can use Wakahisa techniques already?
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
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Dummy's not good at Medical ninjutsu, and also: see his name.