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[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
 
[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.

[X] Yes, release Nejibana
 
[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana
 
[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.
-[x] Your faster and even without the Wavedancer more manoeuvrable then Rukia. Keep the Hollow away from Rukia so she can effectively support you by creating openings.
-[X] You should lookout for opportunities to assist Rukia with Kido.

[X] Yes, release Nejibana
 
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[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 11
00mega
Akasha
Derekc2
Diomedon
In_lurk_shadow
Katreus
Locos_Docos
ShyGuy
tricholysis
Varano
whimsical

[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.
-[x] Your faster and even without the Wavedancer more manoeuvrable then Rukia. Keep the Hollow away from Rukia so she can effectively support you by creating openings.
-[X] You should lookout for opportunities to assist Rukia with Kido.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 9
Molyneux
Aigloss
Athas
Fenrir769414
Kaleidophoenix
paintedspear
veekie
Walker Of Chaos
Zap Rowsdower

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 7
Derek58
Amancai
Gamefreak1ed
Jrin
ObsidianWings
Storyteller
UbeOne

[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 6
Nix's Warden
Bilbo Baggins
Knightking
Nihilo
notthepenguins
PsyFarrow

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 3
Yog
Sweece
Timaeus

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
--[x] Keep their attention on you. Use taunts and frequent enough attacks to keep them from being able to outright ignore you to go after Rukia instead.
--[x] Use terrain to your advantage. If Rukia can get to safe, high ground, that's where she should be. If you can use tight spaces to make it more difficult for the hollows to maneuver, do it.
--[x] With you holding them at bay, Rukia can focus one down at a time. Assist if you see an opening, but prioritize holding them off.
--[x] If you get openings for clean attacks, prioritize disabling their ability to attack from range and disabling their mobility.
--[x] If Ichigo makes it there before you two finish them off, get him to help Rukia focus them down one at a time. He's liable to charge in face first like an idiot, which may present extra openings to take advantage of.
---[x] Don't let him get smacked around just because he charges in face first. If there are still two up, make sure the one he isn't hitting doesn't take advantage. If there's just one, keep it from getting a clean hit on anyone.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 3
KInruush
Blood of Gaea
Dragontrapper

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 2
HavocKeeper
ChildishChimera

[X ] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 2
Angurvddel
Maugan Ra

[X] Holding Action
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
--[X] Karin should be on the lookout for opportunities to engage with Kido to assist Rukia.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 2
OliWhail
Racoras

[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
- [X] Both of you make a tactical retreat to stage an ambush. Rukia will be bait while you hide with the Bent Ligth spell. When the hollows approach Rukia, she will cast the Firefly spell to temporarily blind the hollows to create the opening you need. Continue the fight with Rukia as kido support so you can get more openings.
- [X] If they don't follow you to the ambush and instead go after Tatsuki, you will keep their attention on you while Rukia uses kido to create an opening for you.
-[X] If Rukia feels she is in real danger of being injured she can use Bakudo to restrain the hollows instead of the firefly spell.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 2
Edkose
Vanguard_D

[X] All out Assualt
-[x] Cut them down like a tree.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 1
Amphidsf

[X] All out Attack
-[x] Cut them down like a tree.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 1
pianoman

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focusses on Kido.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 1
HeWhoAdds

[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[X]Try to take down the mind controller first.
-[x]Lure them into narrow spaces.
[X] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 1
LordVile

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 1
Sivizt

[X] All-out Assault. The best defense is a good offense, right? Go all out and try and take down one of the Hollows immediately, leaving the numbers in your favour.
-[X] Write-in Tactics: Run towards the two hollows at a full sprint, but do not use Hoho until the opportune moment. As you run, have Rukia use hado to create a blinding light or some other effect to obscure the hollows vision. The moment before the spell is cast, close your eyes. Then as the hollows are blinded, reopen them and use Hoho to jet forwards towards the closest hollow. As you reappear, release your blade and use it's greater power to punch through the hollows mask and slay it in one blow. Then reseal your blade and retreat, utilizing hit and run tactics alongside Rukias spells to slay the second hollow.
No. of Votes: 1
NeverDies

[x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focusses on Kido.
-[x] Watch for more hollow where there are two their may be three, don't underestimate them.
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.
No. of Votes: 1
Viva01

[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.
-[x] Your faster and even without the Wavedancer more manoeuvrable then Rukia. Keep the Hollow away from Rukia so she can effectively support you by creating openings.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
No. of Votes: 1
Artemis1992

Total No. of Voters: 55
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Alright, having difficulty parsing this. It looks like the most popular developed plan revolves around the central strategy of utilizing Nejibana, except in just the Nejibana vote, 29 say No and 25 say Yes. I'm not certain how this vote will be interpreted.
 
ChronOblivion said:
Alright, having difficulty parsing this. It looks like the most popular developed plan revolves around the central strategy of utilizing Nejibana, except in just the Nejibana vote, 29 say No and 25 say Yes. I'm not certain how this vote will be interpreted.
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I have 29 Yes, 28 No. It's a bit more readable as a block tally.
Adhoc vote count started by Diomedon on Apr 11, 2017 at 11:26 PM, finished with 955 posts and 58 votes.
  • [X] Yes, release Nejibana.
    [x] No, keep your sword sealed.
    [X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.
    -[x] Your faster and even without the Wavedancer more manoeuvrable then Rukia. Keep the Hollow away from Rukia so she can effectively support you by creating openings.
    -[X] You should lookout for opportunities to assist Rukia with Kido.
    [x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
    [x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
    [x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
    --[x] Keep their attention on you. Use taunts and frequent enough attacks to keep them from being able to outright ignore you to go after Rukia instead.
    --[x] Use terrain to your advantage. If Rukia can get to safe, high ground, that's where she should be. If you can use tight spaces to make it more difficult for the hollows to maneuver, do it.
    --[x] With you holding them at bay, Rukia can focus one down at a time. Assist if you see an opening, but prioritize holding them off.
    --[x] If you get openings for clean attacks, prioritize disabling their ability to attack from range and disabling their mobility.
    --[x] If Ichigo makes it there before you two finish them off, get him to help Rukia focus them down one at a time. He's liable to charge in face first like an idiot, which may present extra openings to take advantage of.
    ---[x] Don't let him get smacked around just because he charges in face first. If there are still two up, make sure the one he isn't hitting doesn't take advantage. If there's just one, keep it from getting a clean hit on anyone.
    [X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    [X] Holding Action
    -[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollows off Rukia, Rukia focuses on Kido.
    --[X] Karin should be on the lookout for opportunities to engage with Kido to assist Rukia.
    [X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    - [X] Both of you make a tactical retreat to stage an ambush. Rukia will be bait while you hide with the Bent Ligth spell. When the hollows approach Rukia, she will cast the Firefly spell to temporarily blind the hollows to create the opening you need. Continue the fight with Rukia as kido support so you can get more openings.
    - [X] If they don't follow you to the ambush and instead go after Tatsuki, you will keep their attention on you while Rukia uses kido to create an opening for you.
    -[X] If Rukia feels she is in real danger of being injured she can use Bakudo to restrain the hollows instead of the firefly spell.
    [X] All out Assualt
    -[x] Cut them down like a tree.
    [X] All out Attack
    -[x] Cut them down like a tree.
    [x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focusses on Kido.
    [X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[X]Try to take down the mind controller first.
    -[x]Lure them into narrow spaces.
    [X] All-out Assault. The best defense is a good offense, right? Go all out and try and take down one of the Hollows immediately, leaving the numbers in your favour.
    -[X] Write-in Tactics: Run towards the two hollows at a full sprint, but do not use Hoho until the opportune moment. As you run, have Rukia use hado to create a blinding light or some other effect to obscure the hollows vision. The moment before the spell is cast, close your eyes. Then as the hollows are blinded, reopen them and use Hoho to jet forwards towards the closest hollow. As you reappear, release your blade and use it's greater power to punch through the hollows mask and slay it in one blow. Then reseal your blade and retreat, utilizing hit and run tactics alongside Rukias spells to slay the second hollow.
    [x] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Karin focuses on keeping the Hollow off Rukia, Rukia focusses on Kido.
    -[x] Watch for more hollow where there are two their may be three, don't underestimate them.
    [X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
    -[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.
    -[x] Your faster and even without the Wavedancer more manoeuvrable then Rukia. Keep the Hollow away from Rukia so she can effectively support you by creating openings.
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[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
[X] Yes, release Nejibana.
 
Diomedon said:
I have 29 Yes, 28 No. It's a bit more readable as a block tally.
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Huh, NetTally is different than your count.

Regardless, in terms of the plan, I am super skeptical of using Nejibana. Even ignoring the issue of Rukia getting incredibly caught off guard, this is something we can't maintain for very long, and we are defenseless afterwards, unless I'm majorly misunderstanding something about this. This has to be something we only pull out when we can end the fight, or when someone will die or get injured without it, at which point we try to end the fight as soon as we can. When we get it to a point that it can last a battle and not be a danger to ourselves, and we're facing opponents we can't just blitz, then we should use it for battlefield control.
 
ChronOblivion said:
Huh, NetTally is different than your count.

Regardless, in terms of the plan, I am super skeptical of using Nejibana. Even ignoring the issue of Rukia getting incredibly caught off guard, this is something we can't maintain for very long, and we are defenseless afterwards, unless I'm majorly misunderstanding something about this. This has to be something we only pull out when we can end the fight, or when someone will die or get injured without it, at which point we try to end the fight as soon as we can. When we get it to a point that it can last a battle and not be a danger to ourselves, and we're facing opponents we can't just blitz, then we should use it for battlefield control.
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It would have been better with all out assault when releasing Nejibana. She could surely create her own openings to exploit?

As it stands now she will be relying on Rukia to create the opening. Rukia might not freak out and be useless, but she won't be able to do the best that she can.
 
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.

-[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.

I support this combination of plans.
 
ChronOblivion said:
Alright, having difficulty parsing this. It looks like the most popular developed plan revolves around the central strategy of utilizing Nejibana, except in just the Nejibana vote, 29 say No and 25 say Yes. I'm not certain how this vote will be interpreted.
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Yeaaaaaah. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret keeping your sword sealed and trying to use Nejibana's water myself...

In regards to Shikai, because I saw some people asking - you're not likely to collapse mid-fight, but you might collapse after it. It's tiring, but that applies more to very extended use than a single short battle.
 
Stormwhite said:
Yeaaaaaah. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret keeping your sword sealed and trying to use Nejibana's water myself...

In regards to Shikai, because I saw some people asking - you're not likely to collapse mid-fight, but you might collapse after it. It's tiring, but that applies more to very extended use than a single short battle.
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I'd say go to the next plan if the top one has using that as a core part.
 
Katsuragi said:
[x] No, keep your sword sealed.

-[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.

I support this combination of plans.
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But... if it's sealed... it won't produce any water...??? :confused:
 
Katsuragi said:
I know that.
And you know that.
And Karin probably knows that.
But the average voter might not know that.

And thus I support either bringing awareness of the situation, or having many lulz if it happens.
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...that seems like a remarkably pessimistic view of the average Bleach quest voter's knowledge of Bleach.
 
Stormwhite said:
Yeaaaaaah. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret keeping your sword sealed and trying to use Nejibana's water myself...

In regards to Shikai, because I saw some people asking - you're not likely to collapse mid-fight, but you might collapse after it. It's tiring, but that applies more to very extended use than a single short battle.
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In this case, it's the sort of thing where there is only one vote, what our strategy is. And each strategy either involves releasing Nejibana or not. Nejibana shouldn't be considered a separately counted vote when it is integral to how the other vote is executed.
 
[X] Hit and Run. Keep their attention with hit and run tactics, only going for a decisive strike once you have an opening from Rukia.
-[x] Use your control over the water Nejibana produces to hinder the Hollow's manoeuvrability by tripping, intercepting and hammering them while Rukia binds them in place long enough for you to exploit the opening.
-[x] Your faster and even without the Wavedancer more manoeuvrable then Rukia. Keep the Hollow away from Rukia so she can effectively support you by creating openings.
-[X] You should lookout for opportunities to assist Rukia with Kido.

[X] Yes, release Nejibana
 
Stormwhite said:
Yeaaaaaah. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret keeping your sword sealed and trying to use Nejibana's water myself...

In regards to Shikai, because I saw some people asking - you're not likely to collapse mid-fight, but you might collapse after it. It's tiring, but that applies more to very extended use than a single short battle.
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Perhaps the moral of the story is you shouldn't create a tactics vote and separately ask if they want to use something that will significantly affect their tactics. Something like
[Q] Write in tactics.
-[Q] Release or do not release Shikai?
As opposed to
[Q] Take vow of silence.
[Q] Use Kido.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Perhaps the moral of the story is you shouldn't create a tactics vote and separately ask if they want to use something that will significantly affect their tactics. Something like
[Q] Write in tactics.
-[Q] Release or do not release Shikai?
As opposed to
[Q] Take vow of silence.
[Q] Use Kido.
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Except that none of the tactics votes I gave had Nejibana's Shikai required to work. This wouldn't have been an issue if there weren't a bunch of people voting for nothing but the Shikai vote :V
 
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