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Seeing everybody cooperating on action plans makes me feel very warm and fuzzy, you all rock ❤️ :)

E: Now to read them all and criticize them mercilessly :evil:
 
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[X] Training Noburi: Sneaky Medic
[X] Training Hazou: Sneaky Earth
[X] Training Keiko: Sneaky Wind
[X] Action Plan: Steal This Plan
 
[X] Action Plan: Steal This Plan
[X] Ino Response Plan : It's Complicated
[X] Training Noburi: Sneaky Medic
[X] Training Hazou: Sneaky Earth
[X] Training Keiko: Sneaky Wind
 
Also, in the bit about talking to Mari about Akane, he should probably address that he wants a serious discussion, not another Ino Incident :p

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As amusing as radvic x physics otp is I'd rather be more straightforward with the QMs about where we want the update to end rather than rely on weird meta stuff with Hazou's mind :p

Yeah, I was about to spin it off into subplans (courtesy of Radvic)

[] Action Subplan: Akane: Full Disclosure And Flirting: HAZANE ALL THE WAY
  • Next time we see her, "Hi Akane, I was thinking about what you said last time, about flirting with you, and realized I didn't know what romance is. So I thought about it, and I think I like you, and would like to flirt with you if I can figure out how. I think I like you for several reasons. First, I think you're really awesome, and wish I was more like you in several ways, specifically your optimistic demeanor and determination. Second, Whenever you say things, they just feel right to me, er, well, 95% of the time you say things they just feel right to me. Third, Your attention and approval as my apprentice make me the happiest I've been in my life, and the thought of you forgetting or hating me makes me sick. Fourth, I would do anything -er- almost anything for you. Fifth, I think you're pretty, I love your smile, and I like watching you move. So, I'm pretty sure I like you and would like to flirt with you if you know how.
    • Because aww
[-] Action Subplan: Akane: Full Disclosure And INAZO ALL THE WAY
  • Next time we see her, "Hi Akane, so, I was thinking about you asking me if I was flirting with you, and realized I didn't know how to do it, so I'm trying to flirt with Ino until you get better. Do you have any suggestions?"
    • Because we want her to sink further into depression?
  • As we're leaving: "Well, it's been real, but I have a date to catch... that is, a catch do date."
    • Three legs?
[] Action Subplan: Akane: Lousy Flirting and hiding
  • "So, I used to play this song for my mom or dad whenever they came home from a mission. I thought I'd pre-emptively play it for you. It always made them happy, hopefully it'll make you happy."
  • Sing Coming Home song.
    • Because Akane will probably enjoy it
[X] Action Subplan: Akane: Delay until she gets better
  • "So, we stopped by a bookstore, and I saw a few books. Would you like a book to read while you get better? The books I saw were *list books*"
    • Because books.
[] Action Subplan: Akane and Ino: Poly a Ship
  • Seduce Akane and Ino.
  • Have relationships with both of them
    • Does having a relationship get us XP?
 
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@bayesclef As amusing as radvic x physics otp is I'd rather be more straightforward with the QMs about where we want the update to end rather than rely on weird meta stuff with Hazou's mind :p
I'm on board with it staying in. Who knows. We might get to the physics faster :p

(but for real though)

then again... does having a relationship get us XP? If so I might become the hardest polyshipper to ever poly a ship.

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"What's that? You spent years focusing on training only Taijutsu in an academy where that's all you did all day every day? Well... EVERY NINJA IN KONOHA IS IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ME."
*enemy flees in terror*
 
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[X] Action Plan: Steal This Plan
[X] Ino Response Plan : It's Complicated
[X] Training Noburi: Sneaky Medic
[X] Training Hazou: Sneaky Earth
[X] Training Keiko: Sneaky Wind
[X] Action Subplan: Library of Unknown Unknowns
 
Asking Nara to borrow his history book is in the library subplan.

I've amended contigency 1 as per your suggestion.

Oops, sorry. And thanks!

@bayesclef As amusing as radvic x physics otp is I'd rather be more straightforward with the QMs about where we want the update to end rather than rely on weird meta stuff with Hazou's mind :p

Also, in the bit about talking to Mari about Akane, he should probably address that he wants a serious discussion, not another Ino Incident :p

Agreed on both counts.



I'm in the mood for some sickening cuteness, how bout you guys?

[X] Action Subplan: Akane: Shipper's Delight
Ask Akane how you know when you like someone. She's older than you, she probably has it figured out, right? Watch her blush, let her respond. Then tell her she checks off all those boxes for you (or a lot of them; don't lie if she brings up things that don't apply). Probably hold her hand or brush her hair off her forehead or something, I'm pretty sure that's what people do with people they like.

[X] Action Subplan: Akane - Subsubplan: Soup
Ask Noburi how long he thinks it'll be before Akane's off a strict hospital food diet. If there's a good chance it's soon, check with Kabuto. If it is soon:
Ask Akane if she has a favorite soup (or other comfort food that she can eat while recovering). Tell her we'll try to bring her some when we have storage seals or containers to take it in.

Edit: whoops, just remembered Kabuto said no foodstuffs for the moment. Updated.

Also, in less-sickening news:
[X] Action Subplan: Akane: Lousy Flirting and hiding
[X] Action Subplan: Akane: Delay until she gets better

I don't think it's necessary to go CCnJ and resolve this right away, but I support letting Hazou and Akane feel out what a closer relationship might be like. (@OliWhail and other heretics; at the least, it'll help them figure out whether that's what they want.)
 
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I agree, hot air balloons shapes are just easier to build and test with in the near term.



We don't. We make the container slightly smaller than the radius in which it can seal air. If the container is invulnerable there's still going to be a bit of a pop, but the inrush won't get to the seal.

If we make container slightly larger than the radius the tiny amount of air left will just quickly equalize pressure and never gather enough force to be destructive.

The inrush is caused by the large differential in pressure between the zone of vacuum and the surround air, as well as the fact that there's a functionally unbounded amount of incoming air.

Neither of these is a problem with an invulnerable container of an approximately correct size. Tiny mistakes aren't an issue.



It doesn't. At least not if the speed of it sucking the air in is greater than the speed of sound, and we have no indication that it isn't.



Open the valve a tiny bit, let the pressure inside and outside equalize slowly (over minutes rather than seconds) creating no major inrush waves.
Alright, it seems like we're getting closer to a prototype. I'm still worried about the valve, since a failure mode for that is that it opens completely, either by human error or mechanical failure, and BOOM SQUISH I TOLD YOU STINKERS. Why not also write the seal on, say, hard leather or something similar? Strong enough that it won't be ripped apart by wind, and elastic enough that it won't just crack like clay or marble under stress. We can also have failsafes for the valve, as well. The other thing that needs working on is how to suspend the seal in the center of the balloon, and remotely activate it.

Thinking forward, we still need some way to release the air in a non-explosive manner, if we want to reuse the seals. The idea as it stands only allows us to go up once as per the seal, and descend, using the valve. We might also want to research shaped implosion seals, to use as propulsion in the future.
 
I admit I want to brag about the cool ideas, but I think it's better if I don't. The thread has a ton of bright people with good ideas; having a QM contribute seems a little off.
I'd like them to see the light of day somewhere, at least. I'd be sad if they never turned up because you didn't write them down.
Ranged image and sound transmission.
Actually, I don't know how possible this is. What I do know, with reasonable certainty, is that puppets can be manipulated across country borders. We should make spanreeds.
A soft knock at the door made the whole team jump, except Kagome, who was still laid out unconscious on the bed from Inoue-sensei's strike to his head earlier.
As far as I'm aware, blackouts from concussion last maybe two minutes, tops, or they turn into comas. A sleep or paralysis jutsu, possibly applied by handstrike to the head, seems more likely.
You might note that all reflective surfaces have been removed or obscured.
:lol:rofl::lol
I implemented the clown makeup one.
I dunno, I don't see clowns as Inoue-sensei's thing. Also, it lacks personal significance to Jiraiya, so far as Hazou knows.
 
@OliWhail's original plan had us discussing trading the macerator, but that never happened in the update and the letter for Jiraiya has already been handed over to Sarutobi.
Macerator wasn't specifically mentioned in letter, but possibility of selling seals was:
Whatever you put in the plan, which I think is what you just said?

After the "Flowers, Sake, Beach Trip and Hand-Forged Ring Prank" ended in disaster
"Proposal Prank (GONE COMMITTED)"

I know you've posted before but I think I missed the last time, so welcome!

[X] Training Noburi: Sneaky Medic
[X] Training Hazou: Sneaky Earth
[X] Training Keiko: Sneaky Wind
I know they get linked a few posts down but I think these are the first votes Counterbot will see, you may wish to link the post containing the plans themselves.
 
The one other Library subplan has waaaaaay too much stuff to try and get done in a single afternoon. This is a much shorter version designed to get the players enough info to decide where to focus Hazou and the team's efforts in the rest of our time in Konoha.

[X] Action Subplan: Library of Knowing Unknowns

Goals
:
  1. Use our limited time in the library efficiently to select future targets
  2. Seek out knowledge relevant to running our merchant empire and / or Hidden Heaven
  3. Seek out books relevant to personal interests
Methods
  • Take a quick tour around all nonfiction sections to see what is available.
  • Seek out a wordworking book for Kagome
    • Because (1) stress-reduction and (2) we'd rather not have to buy one; the freer the better
  • Check if the History of the Elemental Nations Vol. 1,2 and 4 are available, unless Nara is willing to lend us his copies (ask him first, and be understanding if he refuses to lend us very expensive books)
    • Because (1) this is good for building rapport, both by showing genuine interest in one of his interests and the Ben Franklin effect and (2) the freer the better
    • Ask Nara because we were told actually borrowing from the library would likely not be allowed, and we'd like to be able to read in our downtime instead of just at the library.
  • Figure out how the library/ies is/are organized - what subject areas are there that relate to politics, mathematics, social science and psychology, logistics, engineering, chakra and ninja arts (particularly sealing and technique hacking), natural sciences, agriculture, and tactics
    • Nicely ask a librarian for an overview of what is present and where it might be found.
      • Because being nice helps, and the librarian(s) will know a lot more about what's present than we or even our minders (except quite possibly Nara, since he's a nerd like us).
Contingencies
  • If asked why we are interested in these subjects, answer that we anticipate that at least some of them will have low-hanging fruit and/or be relevant to building up our own skills and resources in the mid-to-long term. If asked whether or why we seriously think we're so clever as to personally be able to improve on areas hundreds or thousands of people have worked on, reply that we're afraid that's classified and we can neither confirm nor deny any such thing.
 
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@OliWhail I'm pretty sure I updated my library plan while you were writing yours. Agree it's more than what we can do in one afternoon, claim that (in the revised form) it's a feature, not a bug.

I'm going to spin this off into its own plan, for great modularity. I encourage someone else to take over as maintainer.

[X] Action Subplan: Library of Unknown Unknowns

Goals
:
  1. Gain general knowledge relevant to our interests
  2. Gain knowledge relevant to running our merchant empire
  3. Gain knowledge relevant to Hidden Heaven
Methods
  • Seek out a wordworking book for Kagome
    • Because (1) stress-reduction and (2) we'd rather not have to buy one; the freer the better
  • Seek out and read Elemental Nations Vol. 1,2 and 4, unless Nara is willing to lend us a copy (ask him first)
    • Because (1) this is good for building rapport, both by showing genuine interest in one of his interests and the Ben Franklin effect and (2) the freer the better
    • Read them, starting at the beginning, until either we're finished or are out of time
  • Seek out books that are at the root of a large knowledge tree we know nothing of.
    • Ask a librarian for an introductory book on every subject we anticipate being relevant to our interests. If we're unsure whether a tree of knowledge is going to be relevant, get an introductory book and give up on it if it's looking like a tree we won't use.
      • That is, ask the librarian to iterate through every subject they've divided their nonfiction books into. If we anticipate it being relevant to our interests or are genuinely uncertain, ask for an introductory book in it
    • Because, for all we know, there are fields of knowledge that could prove enormously useful but we don't even know they exist to study them.
    • Read the introductory bits.
    • Order them by importance
    • Read them until we're finished or are out of time.
  • Seek out books relevant to setting up a merchant empire, if we finish all above books
    • Economics
    • Geography (or caravan routes, if that book exists)
    • Management
    • Because there's a good chance we begin setting up our merchant empire before we come back to Konoha or anywhere else civilized enough to have books.
    • Read the introductory bits; order them by importance; read them in that order until we're finished or out of time.
  • Seek out books relevant to setting up Hidden Heaven, if we finish all above books
    • Physics
    • Chemistry
    • Government
    • Because Hidden Heaven is our long-term goal.
    • Read the introductory bits; order them by importance; read them in that order until we're finished or out of time.


Commentary (ie NOT PART OF THE PLAN, NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT):
  1. I'm having trouble phrasing what we mean by "general knowledge." We want an introductory book on every field of knowledge that may come up for us (math, physics, chemistry, biology, economics, law), but not something like poetry or philosophy.
  2. I'm assuming librarians exist. If not, the plan needs to be reworded to reflect this.
  3. Will some of our reading choices draw suspicion of the "are these merely-nominally-aligned missing-nin up to something that may or may not be aligned with our interests"?
  4. We should probably have an answer prepared for "why are you interested in [book]" that is different from "we're looking to set up a merchant empire" or "we're looking to set up our own hidden village."
  5. Hidden Heaven is sufficiently far off that the best use of our time now may not be researching for it.
  6. I haven't marked anything as (O), since the action plan which calls this has it marked (O). I also haven't marked anything as high-priority.


Questions for our QM's, @eaglejarl and @Velorien
  1. Do libraries organize nonfiction by subject? (Answering "yes" is both reasonable and will make this plan much easier to read.)
  2. Will the library contains librarians who will help us find books?
 
claim that (in the revised form) it's a feature, not a bug.
I must disagree, on the basis that following the plan as-is leads to us spending the entire time reading the History of the Elemental Nations instead of sorting through all available subjects (since you say "seek out and read").

Even if Shika-chan loans us his, I would rather spend our whole first time at the library doing meta-work than actually reading.
 
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I assume you meant "can help himself" and answers include:
  • A gay one.
  • A blind one.
  • An asexual one.
  • One who hit puberty late.
I'll assume you meant 'not attracted to girls' rather than 'gay', because I'm given to understand they aren't the same thing. Otherwise, keep preaching.
You're forgetting all the other actual scandals. Like the one where Clinton killed an FBI agent looking into her foundation with her bare hands
"Ha! Scandal always beats gun!" - Doctor McNinja
"Desire" is somewhat problematic but whatever, I understand we have a number of Hakane shippers in the thread.
I believe we agreed to call it Akou?
 
[X] Training Noburi: Sneaky Medic
[X] Training Hazou: Sneaky Earth
[X] Training Keiko: Sneaky Wind

There's definitely a need for everyone to work on the basics, and getting Stealth cranked is a great start.
 
To prevent last-minute nonsense:
[X] Action Plan: Steal This Plan

'not attracted to girls' rather than 'gay'
I claim the set of [gay guys, asexual guys, and guys who have not hit puberty] covers the set of guys not physically attracted to gals :p

I am going to argue for a combination of the two Ino plans, with some wording that I feel is smoothed out:

[X] Ino Response Plan: Complex Seed Planting
  • "It's complicated. None of us wanted to be missing-nin. Now that we are, we really have to rely on each other, there's no safety net. No village we can run to when we're hurt. But because we're out there, we get a unique perspective, and that means we can do more to help. Be willing to spend time healing kids, build houses."
  • "I think in the end, being a missing nin is sad. It's sad because once you're outside system, you can see exactly how much time and effort is wasted on maintaining the status quo instead of helping people, even though helping people would be so easy any fresh academy grad could do it. Instead, ninja fight, and the world suffers."
  • In further conversation, talk about ways that everyday civilians can be helped by basic ninja things.
    • Because we want to drive the point home
    • Because Ino might like it, and it promotes the ideas of team uplift
  • Be truthful but keep opsec
    • Nothing about VHitM
    • No revealing things that isn't already public knowledge (MEW and Nobby's medical skill are known to Team Asuma already.)
 
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