Okay to those who have 1 vote plans who do you want to rally behind to get a result that aint I'm not sorry everyone who doesn't have votes I have 2 (sorta) whats everyone's else got.
I Am Thou and Limited Time Offer each have four votes at the moment, while I'm Not Sorry has eight . As far as the difference between I Am Thou and Limited Time Offer...
I Am Thou has Velv.Con, while Limited Time Offer has Fay.Con and Supp.lib. Both of them have Meta.tv, Laplace_Clock.cor, and Skill_Crack.cor.
 
While I can see how the way I phrased that makes that sound possible, it is not. Dark and Light are one axis, Law and Chaos the other. Your mom can be be Law/Light, Light/Law, Chaos/Light, Light/Chaos, Law/Dark, Dark/Law, Chaos/Dark, or Dark/Chaos
Neutral is not an option for any of those?
 
*groans* I knew something was missing.

Yes, Neutral is an option, but only as a secondary. I am going to have to think about how to best work that into the vote
 
While I can see how the way I phrased that makes that sound possible, it is not. Dark and Light are one axis, Law and Chaos the other. Your mom can be be Law/Light, Light/Law, Chaos/Light, Light/Chaos, Law/Dark, Dark/Law, Chaos/Dark, or Dark/Chaos
Thank you.

Oh, and for anyone wondering, the morality system usually goes on two axis:

Disposition to Humanity:
Light = Friendly to humans

Dark = Hostile to humans

Neutral = Neutral to Humans

Views on Order and Chaos:
Law = Order in the best and worst ways possible. Includes both general public order and totalitarian regimes.

Chaos = Chaos in the best and worst ways possible. Though usually taken as "survival of the fittest" it also includes freedom

Neutral = Neutral
 
I Am Thou and Limited Time Offer each have four votes at the moment, while I'm Not Sorry has eight . As far as the difference between I Am Thou and Limited Time Offer...
I Am Thou has Velv.Con, while Limited Time Offer has Fay.Con and Supp.lib. Both of them have Meta.tv, Laplace_Clock.cor, and Skill_Crack.cor.
My main desire besides the prediction app is the Cathedral and bel blood rn, though i'd love the communicator apps too.
 
While getting Taylor a partner this early would be great for her imo, what I mainly want are Laplace and TV.
 
While getting Taylor a partner this early would be great for her imo, what I mainly want are Laplace and TV.
I mean, I'm leaning toward changing my vote to an approval for both I Am Thou and Limited Time Offer if it would mean boosting up one of them to beat out I'm Not Sorry, and both of them have Laplace and TV. I'd prefer I Am Thou, but Limited Time Offer is good a second option in my mind. What do you think about an approval vote for both?
 
While getting Taylor a partner this early would be great for her imo, what I mainly want are Laplace and TV.
Its on my plan for whats its worth but my priority has been getting all the devil survivor related stuff(laplace+Naoya's cathderal and the bel stuff). The blood of bel prob gives us a boost to demon negotiation if that makes any difference to my plan.
 
What do you think about an approval vote for both?

[X][Plan] Limited Time Offer
-[X][COMP] Skill_Crack.cor
-[X][COMP] Sup.Lib
-[X][COMP] Laplace_Clock.cor
-[X][COMP] Meta.TV
-[X][COMP] Fay.con

[X][Plan] I Am Thou
-[X][Comp] Skill_Crack.cor
-[X][COMP] Laplace_Clock.cor
-[X][COMP] Meta.TV
-[X][COMP] Velv.conay.Con
 
Picking Light-Law and making our own benevolent-mind-control movement, now with less Nazis setting policy or acting as the face of the movement (AKA: "the Khepri route") sounds like it might be interesting.
 
Approval vote for both time it is!

[X][Plan] Limited Time Offer
-[X][COMP] Skill_Crack.cor
-[X][COMP] Sup.Lib
-[X][COMP] Laplace_Clock.cor
-[X][COMP] Meta.TV
-[X][COMP] Fay.con

[X][Plan] I Am Thou
-[X][Comp] Skill_Crack.cor
-[X][COMP] Laplace_Clock.cor
-[X][COMP] Meta.TV
-[X][COMP] Velv.con
 
[X][Plan] Limited Time Offer
-[X][COMP] Skill_Crack.cor
-[X][COMP] Sup.Lib
-[X][COMP] Laplace_Clock.cor
-[X][COMP] Meta.TV
-[X][COMP] Fay.con

[X][Plan] I Am Thou
-[X][Comp] Skill_Crack.cor
-[X][COMP] Laplace_Clock.cor
-[X][COMP] Meta.TV
-[X][COMP] Velv.conay.Con
Don't suppose there any way to convince you to add the special cathedral stuff its limited time plot hook that would tie us to Naoya.
Edit: Also added my vote to limited time to pool rally!
Its 6 to 8 rn
 
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... but this option is so shiny!

[ ][COMP] I'm Sorry. Come Find me.
- Costs 8 Points
– …What the hell is this?!? Why is there a text from your MOTHER ON HERE! How? Why? What does it mean, 'I'm Sorry. Come Find me in the Expanse.'?
– Taylor is a Devil Child. Half-human, Half-Demon. Annette didn't die. She was cast out of the world. Battles are harder. Demons have opinions about you, making some harder to work with, others easier.
 
Its boring optionwise, it gives you so much less stuff then the other options and doesn't play to our strength which is guns while demi fiend would be strength and magic also missing the laplace clock is a awful idea it remove our way of keeping important social links FROM DYING.
Uhhh... pretty sure the QM said this was different from being a Demi-Fiend, and even if we were we wouldn't need to be exactly like the other one.

In the Devil Children series, the protagonists don't directly fight at all. They primarily summon. (Presumably because they're small children, which we aren't)

More notes:
  • Most modern SMT games don't even have an IN stat to begin with. (this includes Nocturne)
  • Plenty of Demons have Gun-type attacks. (e.g.: Vishnu)
 
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Uhhh... pretty sure the QM said this was different from being a Demi-Fiend, and even if we were we wouldn't need to be exactly like the other one.

In the Devil Children series, the protagonists don't directly fight at all. They primarily summon. (Presumably because they're small children, which we aren't)

More notes:
  • Most modern SMT games don't even have an IN stat to begin with. (this includes Nocturne)
  • Plenty of Demons have Gun-type attacks. (e.g.: Vishnu)
Again play to our strengths its functionally the play a demi fiend option and do you see demi fiend or the smt5 protag use a gun, and gun skills are reliant on skill cracks which uh WE DONT HAVE.
 
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Again play to our strengths its functionally the play a demi fiend option and do you see demi fiend or the smt5 protag use a gun, and gun attacks are reliant on skill cracks which uh WE DONT HAVE.
  • We don't have to be a clone of those characters
  • The description of skill cracks is pretty explicit that there are other ways of learning skills
  • You can also just, uh... make guns from random drops? Like in Strange Journey?
 
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  • The description of skill cracks is pretty explicit that there are other ways of learning skills
  • We don't have to be a clone of those characters
  • You can also just, uh... make guns from random drops? Like in Strange Journey?
Even if does(im skeptical) I don't think it really fits our vibe like we invested in a build that gives the impression of a nerdy and physically weak taylor not a taylor who is a powerful demon, also it will make neutral stuff harder.
 
Even if does(im skeptical) I don't think it really fits our vibe like we invested in a build that gives the impression of a nerdy and physically weak taylor not a taylor who is a powerful demon, also it will make neutral stuff harder.
These are the first two Devil Children in the series:
I think guns fit the aesthetic just fine.
 
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Yeah I suppose I just imagine more demi fiend in my head, regardless ditching the laplace is a awful idea it will get people killed.
I definitely don't like giving up Laplace, but it's only so good.

It has some major weaknesses and limitations:
  1. It only displays increments of one (1) day, so you can't use it to guide your actions.
  2. It only displays out to 9 days, so it can't be used for long-term planning (not that we will need to worry much about that if things go like Devil Survivor, where the entire game is one week
  3. It doesn't say anything about the cause of death, so we can't gather much more than "danger soon"
  4. It only predicts death

It is potentially quite useful, but mostly in a context where:
  1. We have a lot of people listening to us
  2. Our enemies don't know that anyone has exactly that power
Because the moment somebody figures it out and tries to fool us...

... well, we can't tell the difference between:
  • Victory and capture
  • Dawn, Noon, or Dusk
  • Murder, Suicide, or Car Crash
And I'm not even sure how this reacts to "40% chance of death"
 
I definitely don't like giving up Laplace, but it's only so good.

It has some major weaknesses and limitations:
  1. It only displays increments of one (1) day, so you can't use it to guide your actions.
  2. It only displays out to 9 days, so it can't be used for long-term planning (not that we will need to worry much about that if things go like Devil Survivor, where the entire game is one week
  3. It doesn't say anything about the cause of death, so we can't gather much more than "danger soon"
  4. It only predicts death

It is potentially quite useful, but mostly in a context where:
  1. We have a lot of people listening to us
  2. Our enemies don't know that anyone has exactly that power
Because the moment somebody figures it out and tries to fool us...

... well, we can't tell the difference between:
  • Victory and capture
  • Dawn, Noon, or Dusk
  • Murder, Suicide, or Car Crash
And I'm not even sure how this reacts to "40% chance of death"
It gives us a full readout of a full day of events ITS PRECOGNITION, mini dinah basically.
It ain't worth gaining a little extra strength for that.
 
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