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I just realized something that was probably obvious to some of you: our outfit changing depending on our starting persona choice makes us like Akechi. So that's a thing with thematic meaning I haven't identified yet.
Also, that probably means our ultimate persona will be a triangle fusion of Spartacus, Arthur, and Angra.
 
Cubbyhb1 said:
So that's a thing with thematic meaning I haven't identified yet.
Also, that probably means our ultimate persona will be a triangle fusion of Spartacus, Arthur, and Angra.
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If that's the case, we eventually get our final Persona, and we get like, a mix of all three visual options, a near full knights helmet with a Iron body, a silver visor and around our neck is the bandana refashioned as a scarf.
We'd look pretty wicked, a whole renegade, wandering knight type of theme.

I'm honestly not even sure what his Ult would even be, I don't have the best memory for all the Persona that have been in the series, and even then, it could be one made out of an existing figure that hasn't previously been a Persona before.
 
IronHydra said:
If that's the case, we eventually get our final Persona, and we get like, a mix of all three visual options, a near full knights helmet with a Iron body, a silver visor and around our neck is the bandana refashioned as a scarf.
We'd look pretty wicked, a whole renegade, wandering knight type of theme.
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Not necessarily, Akechi wears his emo pajamas with Hereward, but that sounds cool.
 
Arthur is best power wise but chosing Angy Mango will be fun story wise with Shirou being forced to work with Angra in Metaverse. Vote Mango my friends it clearly more fun choice! (Also do everyone except me forgot that we are going to collect persona like Pokemon? Power is not that important when we can catch strong damaging persona in the tall grass 😂)
 
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magiciannever said:
Arthur is best power wise but chosing Angy Mango will be fun story wise with Shirou being forced to work with Angra in Metaverse. Vote Mango my friends it clearly more fun choice! (Also do everyone except me forgot that we are going to collect persona like Pokemon? Power is not that important when we can catch strong damaging persona in the tall grass 😂)
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We're going to do what every persona protagonist failed to do and force the reaper to be our persona
 
magiciannever said:
Arthur is best power wise but chosing Angy Mango will be fun story wise with Shirou being forced to work with Angra in Metaverse. Vote Mango my friends it clearly more fun choice! (Also do everyone except me forgot that we are going to collect persona like Pokemon? Power is not that important when we can catch strong damaging persona in the tall grass 😂)
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I assume we'll use this Persona for a while, unlike in the game (plus, in any side material the MC's use their Starting Personas a lot)

It's been a while since I have played or seen anything P5 related. I remember a "Strong" Persona had:

-Lots of resistance, immunities and at least a single weakness, so it can be patched up quickly.

-Abilities that can't be inherited to another Persona

-Persona Traits

-Having specific Spells and Abilities on the Personas to min-max such as. Highest Elemental attack, Elemental Amp, Concentrate, Magic Ability, Spell Master and so on...



If i remember correctly all Initial Personas seem to be a case of Charles Atlas Superpower on the anime adaptations, on one scene they are getting wrecked and later on they handle stronger enemies with no problem, with no need of changing Personas for extra firepower or to counter their weaknesses.

Izanagi seems to be the most consistent of all three modern protagonists. Joker used Arsene wherever he felt like it, and Makoto spammed Agi the first time and second time in the movies when he used it, and in the last fight, Orpheus got wrecked 2 seconds into the fight (Truly a level 2 Persona).

Hopefully, Shirou and Arthur get their time to shine
 
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IronHydra said:
So yeahhh....... I can't pick anything else. This is who Shirou wants to be, his symbol of hope and the spark of what he wants to strive for. It's not to rage, to get mad or wild, but to bring justice and salvation to others.

That's what he strives for, he can master his darker impulses later, his first should represent what's truly important to him.
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I'm happy with all three options honestly but to offer a slight counterpoint, this Shirou is explicitly a Shirou that failed to trust Saber and didn't give back Avalon the night before the final battle, which resulted in them losing against Gil and Kotomine. The mistake this Shirou made was relying on Avalon as a crutch, and refusing to put his trust in anything but his ability to "not die when killed".

So I would argue that thematically/narratively, it makes more sense that Shirou must grapple with his darker impulses and inner demons before he is allowed to resynchronize with Avalon and achieve a true manifestation of his ideals.
 
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Birthday said:
but to offer a slight counterpoint, this Shirou is explicitly a Shirou that failed to trust Saber and didn't give back Avalon the night before the final battle
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I mean, to an extent I agree, but Shirou realized his mistake the moment he drowned in the Grails Mud, and was separated from everyone he loves and cares about, Arturia, Taiga, Issei, Rin, Illya, Sakura, even Ayako and the people he worked for at that bar part-time.

Shirou.... he's aware he failed her, he just does his usual thing of shoving everything that bothers him down into the depths of his mind. Including excruciating guilt over not doing right by the one he loves.

So when Shirou started getting beat up by those Shadows, he was saying in his mind "I'm about to fail again, I'm about to let it happen once more".

I can only see Shirou- at this point, knowing the mistakes he's made, doing his best to live properly now, to make up for it. He has too.

To me, it makes more sense for him to begin striving for a more pure and noble route, following in his King's footsteps. But as we go along the story, and sees the corruption and the evils that these ordinary people harbor within them, along with his own dark impulses, and struggle against it in the meantime. Only coming to terms with the fact that they are a part of him too. To realize he's just as human as everyone else is.

Anyways, yapping over for now :V
 
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Birthday said:
I'm happy with all three options honestly but to offer a slight counterpoint, this Shirou is explicitly a Shirou that failed to trust Saber and didn't give back Avalon the night before the final battle, which resulted in them losing against Gil and Kotomine. The mistake this Shirou made was relying on Avalon as a crutch, and refusing to put his trust in anything but his ability to "not die when killed".

So I would argue that thematically/narratively, it makes more sense that Shirou must grapple with his darker impulses and inner demons before he is allowed to resynchronize with Avalon and achieve a true manifestation of his ideals.
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I disagree it makes less sense, because our Velvet Room is themed after Camelot, Shirou was called a knight by Igor and has 2 perks related to it. All the choices are meant to equally apply to Shirou now.

I do not know how much you can really call Angra his natural dark impulses and inner demons when it is something external that was forced into him and is now inhabiting his mind. He should be able to work out his issues regardless of our starting Persona choice

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25% chance to instantly kill one target. Affected by Luck.
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Is it affected by the Luck of the target or our Luck stat? How is it affected?
 
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