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The Enemy Within (WHF Witch Hunter Quest)
- Thread starter Maugan Ra
- Start date
- Fantasy
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- Location
- Earth
I mean she is allready dead so no spoiler there i think could be wrong naturally
[X] Live
That is very unlikely since his brother is already established and coming back now means a power struggle.
- Location
- Germany
I'd say trying to help the mutants, rather than do the typical Witchhunter thing and have everyone involved in the cult killed by reinforcements 5 updates ago, that was the tipping point.
We tried to be a decent person to the people that neither the humans nor dwarves of Grissenwald would accept.
As a result our only allies had neither the skill or equipment of the dwarves, nor the numbers of the town watch. Certainly not both, which would have been ideal.
We set ourselves up with the weakest faction, so we got overrun by a few beastmen later.
Even if this quest does end (which I hope not) I'm still pretty glad we shot that old bag of heretical bones in the face.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Can I say one thing? What (nearly) killed Marcus here was the tendency to go 1 vs. All even when this became suicidal.
We could have remained in the tower. Serving ourselves on a platter in the mine was the wrong choice.
Sometimes, though, there will be forces in motion that we cannot stop with 1 character. And with the philosophy of throwing ourselves in the path of danger, whoever else comes next, another character would still die.
We could have remained in the tower. Serving ourselves on a platter in the mine was the wrong choice.
Ditto. It was mostly a severe tactical mismanagement, borne from not considering that sometimes, no matter how hard you try, you can't save them all.
That was one of the decisions, yes. It led to being trapped due to the wound.
Sometimes, though, there will be forces in motion that we cannot stop with 1 character. And with the philosophy of throwing ourselves in the path of danger, whoever else comes next, another character would still die.
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Siding with the mutants instead of the town, I think. It'd have at least resulted in a *different* doom.
Honestly, I'd describe it as a purely tactical mistake. But purely tactical mistakes can still get you and everyone else killed.
She seems to be an... ooze-thing merely disguised as a human, it's possible 'being shot in the head' is not a huge inconvenience. Hope not, though.
I think this is a tragic though not unfitting end. We did what was right, and though it may be in vain we killed the bastard responsible. And honestly... poor Marcus has been through the ringer enough I can't see an upward trajectory for staying in the same line of work. (A combat career with one arm and one leg is gonna be... difficult, without magic healing on-hand). But perhaps something else, something less... face-punchy?
I could honestly go for any. Leaning towards Break maybe. Follow-up would be nice. But ultimately I don't dislike any option enough to vote against it, so I don't like any option enough to vote for it.
[X] Live
- Location
- London, England
Please ignore the post you might have seen pop up on your alerts for a moment there, I was trying to set the closing time for the vote and accidentally set it to, well, "now".
Sertorius
Rebellious Legate
- Location
- Roma Invicta
Well, this makes it the last possible moment to say:
Deny death! Embrace life!
Please let the Quest continue.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
Does anyone in Markus' family or line of work know about Elvyra's grandkid? They're the only ones who'd be able to offer her help once it becomes clear Markus is dead, but even then, I don't think the Order gives a Witch Hunter's retinue family benefits if they ever die in the line of duty.
It's going to suck to be that kid. Last we saw her, Max was teaching her how to shank someone and apprenticing in some jobs in Altdorf, but she has no parents and her grandmother is dead. It'd be nice if Markus' family could do something for her, but I don't think they're aware she exists.
It's going to suck to be that kid. Last we saw her, Max was teaching her how to shank someone and apprenticing in some jobs in Altdorf, but she has no parents and her grandmother is dead. It'd be nice if Markus' family could do something for her, but I don't think they're aware she exists.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
- Location
- CET
Yes. Exactly. That's my point, going with Break doesn't actually solve that because being a Witch Hunter isn't the issue here. People think that Markus shouldn't be getting himself into this situation to start with.
As for another argument to keep living, an argument with a bit of OC information if you'll forgive me Maugan.
The Purple Hand stands as one of the central enemies of this adventure path. For those unaware, it is one of the most powerful active Chaos Cults in the Empire, aimed mostly at subverting the Empire from the inside out. It has agents everywhere. In the Cults, within the Templar orders, among peasants, merchants, nobles and all. Their reach stretches all the way into the Imperial Palace itself.
And Markus, by sheer dint of luck, happens to have a face similar to one of their ranking leaders. A leader who got mobbed and killed by a rival Chaos Cult, the Red Crown. Aside from having the resources of the Inquisitorial Rosette at his back, he is actually really suited as a protagonist to actually do something about this. Having both an in, and the noble and inquisitorial authority to get shit done in a way that most PCs wouln't be able to dream of.
And from a personal point. I don't want Markus to die here. I want the bugger to see his brother's reaction when he comes home from this job. I want to see what kind of interesting prosthetic Maugan has in mind to fix the leg. There's still stopping the Red Crown with whatever plan they are actually up to (remember they left to organize a bunch of things and a Cult is more than one Sorcerer), there's the mystery of the observation tower cellar and castle Wittgenstein. There's enough actually interesting stuff to do and experience as Markus.
Edit: Chief among them ensuring that Elvyra's grandkid, Liza, actually has a future.
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LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
To emphasize the point, Elvyra knew she didn't have long left, being an elder and all, and she has a kid to take care of. She took the risk of being in a Witch Hunter's employ for her grandkid's sake since it pays way more than running her stall did, and it even landed her grandkid apprenticeships in Altdorf!
Elvyra has fought daemons, cultists, criminals, and beastmen, followed Markus to places where soldiers would break and run, and she didn't even complain once. Markus owes it to her that Elvyra's grandkid has a future to look forwards to now that she's alone in this world.
He still has a bunch of loose ends to tie up and responsibilities to attend to. Let's not give up here after our first significant set-back.
Elvyra has fought daemons, cultists, criminals, and beastmen, followed Markus to places where soldiers would break and run, and she didn't even complain once. Markus owes it to her that Elvyra's grandkid has a future to look forwards to now that she's alone in this world.
He still has a bunch of loose ends to tie up and responsibilities to attend to. Let's not give up here after our first significant set-back.
[X] Rest
- Location
- Germany
It's rare to see a quest end, and it's not like Maugan Ra is lacking in other quests and stories to occupy his time and entertain his readers.
This is not the perfect ending point, there is no such thing, but it is a decent one, with few loose ends.
This is not the perfect ending point, there is no such thing, but it is a decent one, with few loose ends.
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
It's 43 for Rest, and 37 for Live. We just need 6 more votes to at least tie with Rest! There's 31 minutes left on the clock, so if you want to see where Markus goes from this point on, how his loved ones and colleagues will react and perhaps even support him to show that he is in fact, worthy of love unlike what he thinks, then vote now!
Yeah, but none of those quests are about a Witch Hunter as compelling as Markus, nor are they about tackling Imperial society, its laws, and how mutants are treated as an enforcer of said laws, so I'd really rather not lose this one.
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- Location
- Germany
True I guess.
I think in some form I'd like to see this particular part and version of the setting continue.
But still, for Markus himself I think accepting his death is the better choice now.
I wouldn't be opposed to a story of Spätin, or the Halfling-lawyer, or even another Hunter investigating what happened here though.
I don't believe giving up is a sign of weakness, especially after all Markus has been through. Still, I want to believe his ideals weren't for naught. That tomorrow will be brighter, he will prove that world can be a better place or at least manage carve a portion of peace for himself.
[X] Live
[X] Live
LucidProp
Pocky Eating MafiaDoka
While Maugan raised the possibility of continuing this story in another quest, there's no guarantee when or if it'll happen.
What is certain is that this quest exists right now, and I would not want to end it here for a sequel that isn't even in the planning stages yet.