Also I'd like to remind people that picking our room is not just cleaning it up, it's also research

Do some light cleaning and set it up in a way you like. Do some research on your phone about the changes in the past decade.

I'd just rather get it over with for Shirou to acclimate faster what's different from this world to his really. Don't want him to slip up on differing timeline/universe whatever.
 
It is a nice change of pace. I'm not too fond of the build, but Bloodhound C is a blessing while reading his actions outside the Metaverse (I wonder how it will work inside of it).
I'm guessing it'll work as a souped up version of the Third Eye (the mechanic that highlights areas of interest, tells you how strong Shadows are, and can be upgraded to do a variety of things like slowing down your perception of time).
One of the core issues with Persona as a setting for a fanfic, is that the stations of canon are extremely hard to truly break away from.
To be fair, I like the original P5 crew. And unless the main Targets change, the party members associated with them probably will become social links at the very least.

Maybe we could expand upon our confidant's by making their enemies have mini-palaces instead of just being a part of Mementos?

I'd just rather get it over with for Shirou to acclimate faster what's different from this world to his really. Don't want him to slip up on differing timeline/universe whatever.
It's pretty funny, cause Shirou was actually very tech savvy in 2004, being able to repair electronic appliances and such. And now he has to deal with being 12 years behind everyone.

But yeah. This feels more true to Shirou's personality. We're heading into school tomorrow, we should try to acclimate to the era before we get thrown into the deep end. I wonder if Shirou realizes this is probably somewhat like what Saber probably went through after being summoned XD.

[X] Settle into your room.

Also, as a side note, I hope we will get more Shirou snarking back at the Angry Mango. There's a reason EMIYA is his future self after all.
 
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That'd be interesting, I wonder what a possible Non-Phantom Thief Confidant Akiren's Palace would be…
Probably something to do with neglectful parents, since he doesn't have a criminal record in this version of the setting. Akiren wouldn't have a palce though, Palaces require someone to have desires so strong that they warp their perception of reality. Like how Kamoshida sees himself as the King of the school, or how Kaneshiro sees people as nothing but walking ATMs.

But hey, if we get Joker instead of Mishima as our PR Manager for the Phantom Thieves, I'm all for it XD.


WAIT FUCK, IF WE'RE A THIRD YEAR, KAWAKAMI WON'T BE OUR HOMEROOM TEACHER.

Ryuji, I put my faith in you. Your horny teenage desires to have a hot maid is the only thing that can save Kawakami from a lifetime of exploitation. (No, seriously. Us finding out that she's a maid is the only way we could start her social link now XD.)
 
Don't want him to slip up on differing timeline/universe whatever.

That is good not bad because it makes the quest better. It gives AbyssalDivine more material and it will be of no consequence. It will be either interesting for him to learn as he goes or it will not matter. It is not like he is going to have that much difficulty since the technology is easy to learn. He is not going to learn about the supernatural on the internet.

What is of actual consequence is building trust with Sae. We should start now. This is going to be when she will pay the most attention to him since he just got to her home. This will form her first impression of Shirou.

I get the feeling thst the option to beat up people Neuroses and fix them is going to be highly appealing to him.

This is not a morally flexible Shirou and he was raised by a magus. I am not sure how comfortable he would be with changing people by force through supernatural means. Shirou is a very straight laced good guy. He is not rebellious and would not style himself as a thief. He is not that kind of hero that rebels against society. He is not a non conformist. That clashes a lot with the themes of Persona 5.

I do not expect him to act like the P5 or protag or come to the same conclusions. He is not a complete blank slate and if the Velvet Room is a reflection of his heart, it might look different.
 
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This is not a morally flexible Shirou and he was raised by a magus. I am not sure how comfortable hhe would be with changing people by force through supernatural means. Shirou is a very straight laced good guy. He is not rebellious and would not style himself as a thief. He is not that kind of hero that rebels against society. He is not a non conformist. That clashes a lot with the themes of Persona 5.

I do not expect him to act like the P5 or protag or come to the same conclusions. He is not a complete blank slate and if the Velvet Room is a reflection of his heart, it might look different.
Not in the sense of changing their minds. In the sense of slaying their inner demons so they have a choice about whether to be a dick or not.

Remember Shirou went from trying to talk peace to killing Shinji in no time flat. He would be quite happy to have the option to beat up their daddy issues or something so they reconsider their lives

He would be considerably less comfortable with outright changing them, but if it proves that they will remain a menace to society he will simply remove them permanently.
 
That is good not bad because makes the quest better. It gives AbyssalDivine more material and it will be of no consequence. It will be either interesting for him to learn as he goes or it will not matter. It is not like he is going to have that much difficulty since the technology is easy to learn. He is not going to learn about the supernatural on the internet.
If it was of no consequence or if Abyssal didn't want to write it, I'm pretty sure Abyssal wouldn't have included it as a dedicated option to spend time on. I will point out that Youtube wasn't a thing during the 5th HGW, and nor was Twitter. Even just having a rudimentary understanding of social media would be helpful for Shirou.

What is of actual consequence is building trust with Sae. We should start now. This is going to be when she will pay the most attention to him since he just got to her home.
However, I do agree that building trust with Sae is going to be easiest before the Phantom Thief business starts in earnest. So I wouldn't be upset if spending time with Sae won.

This is not a morally flexible Shirou and he was raised by a magus. I am not sure how comfortable hhe would be with changing people by force through supernatural means.
Not in the sense of changing their minds. In the sense of slaying their inner demons so they have a choice about whether to be a dick or not.

Remember Shirou went from trying to talk peace to killing Shinji in no time flat. He would be quite happy to have the option to beat up their daddy issues or something so they reconsider their lives
This.

Fate Shirou is idealistic, but he's not naive or delusional. If the Phantom Thieves were outright brainwashing people, then Shirou would probably have issues with that, but considering Morgana explains how the Palaces work, I think he'd be okay with it. Also, Ryuji and Joker initially hesitate going through with Morgana's plan when they learn it could potentially kill Kamoshida, but I think Shirou would be considerably less hesitant about going through with it, consider he has Angry Mango egging him on, as well as his own experiences in the HGW.

Shirou is a very straight laced good guy. He is not rebellious and would not style himself as a thief. He is not that kind of hero that rebels against society. He is not a non conformist. That clashes a lot with the themes of Persona 5.
While I agree that Shirou's metaverse outfit would not be styled after a Phantom Thief like Joker, saying that Shirou isn't a non-conformist and that he wouldn't rebel against society is a very limited view on his beliefs? Like, EMIYA's existence absolutely disproves this, having died trying to stop a war by fighting against both sides. Shirou's ideals have nothing to do with laws or society, and everything about protecting others. If Shirou believes he cannot protect someone by working within the confines of the law, he absolutely would step over them as long as the actions didn't conflict with his actual morality. He and Makoto share a lot in that regard, except that Shirou has already gone through a bunch of character development towards refining his ideals into something healthy.
 
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[x] Talk with Makoto

Angra is here to stay, and can make Shirou's life hell if we antagonize him. Best to work with him on the small things so he doesn't sabotage the big ones.
 
A large chunk of time on the ride to your new home is spent figuring out how to use the damn thing. Eventually, you ask Sae for some help, and after a surprised look, she starts to give you some tips.
Coming back to this, I wonder what Sae thinks of us? We seem to be a homeless youth with no knowledge of tech. That's really weird.
 
Hunger seems like a good fit
The same as Adachi from p4
Nah. Hunger/Lust is basically the Reversed form of Strength from the Thoth Arcana. It's more about a lack of control over, and the bliss that comes from, abusing power. AM is more like the Devil Arcana, because the Devil Arcana is moreso focused on general desires and being a symbol of temptation.
 
Nah. Hunger/Lust is basically the Reversed form of Strength from the Thoth Arcana. It's more about a lack of control over, and the bliss that comes from, abusing power. AM is more like the Devil Arcana, because the Devil Arcana is moreso focused on general desires and being a symbol of temptation.
That sounds definitely more like AM is Lust rather than Devil, since its really really bad at corruption, it just takes off all your filters and maximizes instant gratification in Hollow Ataraxia.
 
That sounds definitely more like AM is Lust rather than Devil, since its really really bad at corruption, it just takes off all your filters and maximizes instant gratification in Hollow Ataraxia.
Well, that's what I meant when I said Devil is more about general desires. The Devil Arcana is about being a slave to your desires and emotions, lacking restraint, which is why it's also a symbol of temptation. Because it's appearance indicates that the person who the reading will be about will soon fall prey to their desires.

Lust/Hunger is more about power, abusing and losing control of it. It's notable that Adachi's Arcana only changes from the Jester into the Hunger once Narukami confronts him and basically sets into stone that they are enemies. If Narukami chooses to let Adachi go, the Arcana stays as the Jester, which seems to imply that the Arcana change is more about Narukami's perception of Adachi than any sort of internal change.

But I think Devil and Lust are pretty close conceptually, so I think either one is fine.
 
Coming back to this, I wonder what Sae thinks of us?

This is easily explained, and while not completely true, it is truthful to an extent. Shirou lived in a more traditional home before, sure he can't exactly explain where it was due to Fuyuki not existing here. But he could say his past experience living more frugally and with older/lower level of tech, y'know only knowing about/using flip phones and regular home phones.

He could possibly use his skill with Kyudo, and training with shinai from Taiga and Saber as evidence that he stays in practice with those things, and focused more on physical things and mechanics from a young age.
 
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