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The Enemy Within (WHF Witch Hunter Quest)

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[X] Kill your Brother

Even if he's telling the truth, what if he decides that he wants to try his hand at spells later in life?

Justice must be blind. Would Markus give someone else not related to himself the same privilege? I don't think so.
 
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Chlof said:
So the main question for me here is, is he deliberately lying about conditions in the colleges or does he legitimately not know? Because with the knowledge that most apprentices simply fail to graduate and become Apprentices-In-Perpetuity (Yes I know, fandom wiki, sorry. Can't be bothered to dig up realms of sorcery right now) it seems to me like he's trying to play into the biases he thinks a Templar might have regarding the colleges in order to manipulate Markus into letting him go.
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I feel like Rikard would call those slaves in all but name.
 
[X] Kill your Brother

I feel bad for Markus and Maria, but not Rikard. Dude knew the whole time what was going on, and was too selfish to go to the colleges (or even apparently learn more about them). He let his dad die for him, took out everything on his brother, and apparently decided it's fine for the people he's responsible for to be tormented by his father's spirit rather than summon anyone to deal with the problem (and it seems to me he decided that so he could keep hiding his magic)
 
[X] Kill your Brother

He got his own father killed with his dabbling and "I'm a special little boy who doesn't have to follow the same rules as everyone else", lied to his family about it for decades, and then he put more lives in jeopardy refusing to call in the Black Guard of Morr to lay a very powerful and very dangerous ghost.

Even without the ability to work magic he'd be a callous son of a bitch with blood on his hands, that's just the spice on a very nasty cocktail of choices and characteristics.
 
[X] Kill your Brother

Again and again during this quest we have seen that compromise will lead us wrong. Sigmar commands the wild witch to burn, and Sigmar is always right.

Go forth righteous Templar and do your duty.


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Though you could always just puch him really really hard, toss him over your horse and ride to the colleges. Like dude, your little brother is a stick/nerd and you're a jock. Stop the drama and start the bullying.
 
Because it's the sort of thing that I think would make for a great villain backstory for a character in one of your other quests in the long run :rofl2:
 
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Chlof said:
So the main question for me here is, is he deliberately lying about conditions in the colleges or does he legitimately not know? Because with the knowledge that most apprentices simply fail to graduate and become Apprentices-In-Perpetuity (Yes I know, fandom wiki, sorry. Can't be bothered to dig up realms of sorcery right now) it seems to me like he's trying to play into the biases he thinks a Templar might have regarding the colleges in order to manipulate Markus into letting him go.
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Forget the wiki, over in Bogenhafen we met a journeyman who was basically living as a common blacksmith, not being forced to march in an army for the rest of his life. Markus is fully aware that Rikard is just plain wrong.

@Maugan Ra, the option to kill Rikard says he hates Markus too much to listen to any of his arguments. Is bringing in Maria any kind of option?
 
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I feel like Rikard would call those slaves in all but name.
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Yes, but given the context that's a little pathetic, don't you think? A couple of years living in the colleges learning how not to get yourself and others killed, maybe some magically dampening jewellery and an middling obligation of some kind of service to the colleges is kind of a pittance in comparison to both how he's framing it and the decision he's forcing on Markus.

So he's either A - lying about his motives for not wanting to go to the colleges, B - he is legitimately prepared to die over what is, in comparison, a moderate inconvenience or C - he really is just that uninformed and overly paranoid about the reality of the situation himself. And the kicker here is that he's a Reiklander Noble, meaning that he's one of the people best positioned to be informed on this subject in the entire Empire.

I dunno, if there were a third option here I'd pick it. As it stands there's too much of a possibility for him to simply be a hate-filled, suicidally stubborn moron for me to choose either way.
 
[X] Kill your Brother

Who knows, if he is telling the truth? He might have sold his soul a long time ago and just lies now.

Either way, whether this is the truth or not, Markus is a Witch Hunter and he did send his father to the pyre. There is only one solution to this predicament. Markus has to be sure to curse his sister on the way out for inviting him to this mess.
 
[X] Turn a Blind Eye

Markus has reaffirmed his commitment to faith in the ideal of Sigmar's Empire over foible mortal interpretation of the letter of the law, and already overlooked the realistic necessities of spellcasters having lives before entering the Colleges. What's one more step into what he thinks is right, especially when even after everything Rikard wasn't tempted to magically bind and banish his father's shade? A non-practicing Magicker, barring a fall into the Arch-Enemy, is less dangerous than the common hedge druid that made up half the priesthoods in Sigmar's day and the Old Night of Hollywood pagan blood sacrifices and fertility rituals.
 
I mean, it's not really a moderate inconvenience considering right now he's a powerful noble. And he'd end up being, well, low on the totem pole, having to serve other wizards, a social pariah, etc. It's more than an inconvenience.

And, I mean, there's some magic users who manage to lay low. I mean, before the time of Magnus there were no colleges, and there were still enough mages not turned to Chaos to help out there, right. But... we've established ourselves as holding tightly to the law. And, well, considering how much our brother hates us, the fact that if we spare him, we'll die if he dies is... a problem.

Honestly, I'd like to at least get Maria in here. See if she can talk sense into him. And if it comes to a kill, well, at least she knows why it did end up that way.
 
Not that I actually want such an option, but I am curious if it would be possible to pretend to turn a blind eye so we can ask someone else to do the deed? Or would that still qualify as dereliction of duty and see Markus burn regardless?
 
[X] Turn a Blind Eye

Markus will not survive another death in the family. Killing Rikard is to kill the part of him that still wants to be with them, to disrespect the last wish of his father and the help Maria hoped to get from him.

I can't put him through that. Markus needs them emotionally, as much as they need him. His reasons for becoming a Templar in the first place was to seek redemption for patricide and killing his brother goes against that.

If Rikard is alive, they can still reconnect. Maybe not now or tomorrow, but someday, and when that day comes, maybe Rikard can be convinced to go to the Colleges. We'll have living proof in the form of our retinue that the Colleges isn't what he fears.
 
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