Who would Guilliman pick if he had the choice; cloned fem!Konrad, or cloned fem!Angron.
Of Stolen Valor and Copied Flesh (A Clone Primarch 40k Quest)
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Angron I'd say, even if she still had the nails he could still just throw her at whatever beasty of the week that he needs dead.
Kurze has always been an unnerving, creepy fuck, not to mention got close to killing Guillimom .
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Choice between the two brothers he liked the least and found genuinely insane (though he also had troubles "understanding" their respective issues)?
Both committed atrocities on Ultramar, but Konrad was more personal about it.
Still, Guilliman desperately yearned for a brother to share the burdens he had to take up. His inner monologs and interactions with Mortarion and Magnus made it clear that he regretted how things went down.
Overall? We don't really have a chance with anyone inside the Imperium except for Guilliman and he wouldn't care as much about the Xeno thing. Holding such a force together will be much more difficult. Being a Primarch will get the humans and Astrates to follow us, but for how long? Being a Konrad Clone will impact their perception, as will taking Xenos along.
As for the aliens? The Eldar will want to return to their own kind and the rest is likely in conflict with humanity, or at least humanity is in conflict with them by default. So taking the Xenos means our force cohesion, which is already going to be shaky by being of Traitor Blood, will potentially further plummet.
On the other hand this is an opportunity to do something Konrad never did or had to do: be inspiring and rallying people to him (her now I suppose) through charisma and personality. We will likely involve some fear to deal with the more stupid ones (that's the easy part), but we should definitely take a note from Machiavelli and add some reasons for people to follow her out of respect/love as well.
Edit: I'm pretty sure Trazyn's planet is in the Eastern Fringe of the galaxy, which means we are likely in what is, or is going to be, Imperium Nihilus. If we do want to go Renegade, there's no better place than that.
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Retaking command of the Night Lords will probably be a necessity in a galaxy that will hate us once they discover who we are. The imperium will hate us and will inevitably try and kill us. Chaos? Well Chaos isn't a particularly good ally to rely upon but it has its claws in our legion. Our sons. And it will inevitably have to be purged from the Night Lords whether it is us, sons who are loyal to us, or sending them on missions they won't come back from.
Also have a heart to heart with our sons eventually.
Also have a heart to heart with our sons eventually.
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Yeah I am not sure why people are speculating about Gulliman or the Imperium. Even with a saner mind now, would Kurze really be more pro-imperial? Conny has no reason to love her first father, or his empire. And of course, is that really the direction we want? After all a Primarch, or even just the copy of one, is a powerful being in 40k. One of those who could indeed make their own path.
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You guys did pick the Primarch both canonical returned Primarchs probably dislike on a personal level the most.
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Yeah, if anyone wanted to make nice with our loyalist brothers, Kurze was the worst pick for that due to just how much of an insane, evil bastard he was.
Look all of us have gone through a phase where we are driven insane by the visions we see and we decide to make living human rug. And if you haven't maybe you just haven't reached that point in your life yet and that's okay but the other primarchs shouldn't look down on Curse for being mature.
Also, most primarchs didn´t have someone like Fabius Bile as their best parenting example. Guilliman shouldn´t be so judgemental, at least he had a mom for Curze to attempt to murder to.
Who knows? Maybe Guilliman always wanted a younger sister?
Bobby G-Money *upon meeting Fem!Curze*: Never before in my life has the phrase 'be careful what you wish for' applied more to me than this moment.
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Hurt, Gather everyone and Ship huh. This is gonna be a great test for our diplomati-
Looks at Curze's backstory
… of our intimidation skills!
Looks at Curze's backstory
… of our intimidation skills!
Well time for the most awkward road trip in Warhammer history.
Tabascoheath
Unkempt, Evil-eyed Charlatan, and Pseudo-Mystic
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Worry not! This is merely a wonderful chance for Curze to try and make those strange things called "Friends".
It's time for CURZE AND HER FRIENDS ADVENTURE OF FRIENDSHIP (They are going to kill each other the second they get out of reach from Tranzyn.)
Curze: Honestly things got so bad that running into that Hive Fleet came as a relief.
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I didn't count that because you just added something extra that wasn't part of the regular voting.
kelgar04
Knight Watcher
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Cruze: what are those can I build meat statues out of them?
Random: better you can build meat statues with them!
Tabascoheath
Unkempt, Evil-eyed Charlatan, and Pseudo-Mystic
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Honestly I can't wait to see what kind of strange survivors of the Collection we can gather, old man Trazyn must have some real good bits here to choose from.