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FYI, I'm gonna let the vote run probably for the rest of today US time unless a really dominant lead appears, since it seems most people we've seen before are coming back quick (yay!)
 
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
 
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

More votes. That will be the lynchpin of the election, in my mind. Can't let up the pressure one bit because of how popular Bathory is, and how politically sharp Jan Zamoyski is. We must bring more over to Matthias' side to ensure he is elected in place. The meeting with Jan can happen after we're sure we've got the votes. It's not like Jan's gonna fall off the face of the earth the moment the election's over.
 
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
 
No Austrian-inspired dresses? :(

[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

It's not an easy choice, but we at least have some positive rep with Zamoyski already. And even in the previous election, when we actually got punished, the "punishment" wasn't exactly anything bad or terrible, even if Stas was in his self-deprecating phase.
 
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
 
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

Hell yeah, go Horse.
 
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
 
Those pesky Masovians...
One more thing.

While I wholeheartedly embrance the idea of allying with the Ruthenians, I have to remind everybody, that they are the weakest political group in the Commonwealth. Sure, the individual magnates might be some of the richest in the country (Ostrogski, Zbaraski, Wiśniowiecki, etc.), but their political power is far below that of the Crownlanders and that's just in the everyday political fights of the time!

Their strength in the election is even more prominent and the reason is very simple: who is the most likely to come to Wola (barring the rich and powerful) at a time, when travelling wasn't as easy as it is today and many people weren't fond of it? Those closest of course. And since this is Masovia, it has many, many villages full of poor hołota. Indeed, they loved elections for the simple fact, that it is a great time to earn some cash in the form of bribes from each and every representative present. :V Foreign diplomats were usually baffled at the fact, that once a noble gets his money, he goes to the next representative for another bribe, then to another and another... hence, there was never a guarantee, that the hołota in question will vote for their chosen man. :p

Many poor nobles were also a reason, why good oratory could do wonders to win some political support among such people. As to the procedure itself: a vote was called a kreska (line, dash) in favour of a particular candidate and it was public. Nobles from each land (administrative unit, above powiats/counties, sometimes they were one and the same) would vote separately, then the results of the whole voivodeship would be announced and the man, who got the most votes would be the chosen candidate of said voivodeship. The procedure would continue until all the voivodeships of the Commonwealth would announce the victory of a single man (in line with the unanimity required).
 
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“O, Epona Mea.” October 22, 1575. Warszawa, Polish Crownlands.
She's going to love it. You just know it. You spent all of yesterday visiting every horse trader in the city and inquiring with the Sejm camp's nobles about any steeds they'd be willing to part with, and at last you found the one: a fresh-grown ex-colt, just barely four years old, black as ink and just beginning to show off his mature musculature. This is a hussar's horse, through and through: fifteen hands tall, of hearty local and speedy Mohammatan stock, a perfect blend of robustness and agility – it's probably in his blood that he won't flinch before gunfire or screaming men. He's worth a hefty pile of silver, but Mariana's worth her weight in gold, isn't she? You buy the young horse without a second thought on credit, and send a little party of men out to Dubinki to pick up the cash.

You want to sing, you're so excited! If it weren't for your leg, you'd be skipping like a boy. Today, you'll forget about all that – these crutches were always here! Missing leg? Out of sight, out of mind! Omnia vincit amor; this day isn't for you, anyways. You cannot wait to see the look on her face. But how to make the reveal? Hmmm…

The pretext is that you need to strengthen yourself for the crutches, complaining only half-deceitfully about shakes and aches in your forearms as you recover from a month in bed. You tell her that you'd like to have her accompany you for some laps around the palace courtyard.

"I hope you didn't forget about my birthing day," Mariana says.

"Wha– Mariana," you say, stopping in place; you notice she's covering her mouth but smiling with her eyes. "I gave you well-wishes this morning – the moment I saw you! You're twenty-one," you add, as if to prove something.

She bursts out laughing. "Serious, so serious! Don't get all offended about it," she says. "But you did forget last year." Your mouth opens and she raises a hand, chuckling once more. "Sir Serious, you were busy, we were in Vienna," she says, before sighing and bobbling her head. "So I don't hold it against you. We weren't very close those days, after all."

You hold still, letting yourself sink into your crutches. She walks ahead, but circles around to face you. "I'm sorry," you say. You've said it before, and you'll say it again. "Truly. I thought I was doing the right thing."

"I know," Mariana says. "And I never felt forsaken, only ignored," she says frankly.

"I was a bad master. If I spent my money building churches as my serfs starved then–"

"Well, firstly, you never swore before God to love and honor your serfs," she says. How different is a woman from a serf, anyway? Quiet, fool, she's talking! "...to a degree, but more importantly – don't frame it as a life-or-death thing! I wasn't and never will be some wilted flower."

Right, of course, and that's why she'll never be like the others. She doesn't have their fragility. You wonder if there are more Marianas out there. Apparently, there are some Zaporozhian women who– "Stanisław?" asks your wife. "Are you bewitched or something?"

You blink a few times. "You bewitch me," you manage to recover. Mariana smiles and rolls her eyes. "And, yes, you're right, you're strong," you say, almost muttering. "Too strong."

"Too strong?"

"I don't mean it in a bad way," you say. You think. "But, well, a question: how does it feel to be a year older?"

Mariana shrugs. "God takes us when He wishes, so if you mean memento mori then, well…" She maneuvers from your front to return to your side. "Let's keep walking."

You begin to clack forward on your crutches once more, as Mariana walks slowly beside you, keeping pace. You both look straight on. She's getting older, she's getting older… So are you. You think you detected something from her just now. Is what's bothering her what's bothering you? "Things change quickly," you say.

"They do."

"Two months ago, I was running and jumping and leading men. Now look at me," you say. "The Lord can take it from you so quick."

"Stanisław," she says, placing a hand on your shoulder. "Mind that talk. Remember what they said about that French leg?"

"It's not that, it's not that." You're going to say it; you realize you could've said it sooner. It's been three years. "I want to see our children. I want them to look like you and act like you and be born under the Scales like you, boy-child or girl." You stop her in her tracks. Her blushing cannot be concealed by her powder. "And I'm worried."

"It's odd that I haven't bore you a child yet," she says, redness receding, voice measured, eyes pained. "I pray about it. For it."

"I didn't mean that," you stumble. "Yes, you're right, but– I'm scared of losing you. What if you die?"

"It's in God's hands. Perhaps He'll let me live the way He saved you. Twice now. Remember when you were pneumonic?"

The angel relit the lantern swinging over your bed, perhaps so that you could – however vainly – tell your homeland of what you had seen in France. Three years ago, right around this time of year. Your lungs drained out and your fever broke. She's right, and you had nearly forgotten in your shock and grief: it has happened before. God has kept you through battles and illnesses and amputation, and all you can do is hope that He extends the same grace to your wife, to the family you want to found with her.

"You're… It's true," you say, leaning a crutch on your flank to run your hand over your face. "But things change so quickly."

"And perhaps next month I won't bleed," she says. Is that hope artificial? Her face only shows what she wants it to. You rely on her voice. "And then we'll have a son, a daughter, twins," she chuckles. "A sudden turn need not always be jarring. And sometimes, being jolted may be a good thing."

You breathe out, knowing she's right, and you want to tell her that you love her as you often do and, as always, you don't.You turn your head at the sound of a light trot. Here he comes! Marszowski grins widely atop the glorious gift, only looking sick in the face, the indefatigable. Mariana turns her attention: "That's a fine horse, Sir Marszowski!" she calls out. "Since when?"

"Since His Serene Highness had my old friend Mniszek killed under him at Zawadówka, Your Serene Highness," he says, dismounting with a groan-cough. Leave it to Marszowski to name his warhorse 'dandelion.' "So, His Serene Highness owed me." His eyes dart to yours. "Would you like to hop on?" he asks, fiddling with the saddle.

"Well, by the way you seem to be hiking up the stirrups for someone, oh, a few inches shorter than you?" she smiles. "I think I'm obliged." Marszowski clicks his tongue and winks at her. "God, he is absolutely gorgeous," Mariana says, approaching the horse and stroking his neck. She looks back at you. "You're going to bankrupt us, my lord! You could fill his feed bag with the silver you paid for him – and then some!"

"What do you think I should call him?" Marszowski asks her.

"Oh, I don't know," says Mariana, breathy with wonder, circling the beast. "I'd say something like Północ or Zmrok, maybe something manly like Grom or Jowisz, but those are all a little uninspired." She taps her chin. "What's he like, Sir Marszowski?"

Marszowski shrugs, beaming. "Not sure, Your Serene Highness. I think that's for you to find out."

"Wha–"

"Optime natalis!" you and Marszowski cry in unison.

Mariana trots over to you, looking joyful – and smacks you across the face! She's cackling, of course. Marszowski howls at the scene. Courtiers' heads have turned. "Stanisław," she says, breaking decorum with a public uttering of your Christian name, "this must have cost a quarter of my dowry!" She can't stop laughing. "You… You're ridiculous, my lord! Thank you, but…"

Mariana turns her attention back to the horse. She looks to Marszowski, who immediately understands to give her boost up into the saddle. You lean on your crutches, stars in your eyes. Why must we never have our portraits taken smiling? Of course, it's so that one's descendents remember their ancestor to be a serious person, but you'd frame the expression she's wearing right now up in a great hall were it proper to do so.

She looks down at you from atop her new steed and sighs. "You fool, such a fool. I can't wait to ride alongside you again, my lord."

"Thank you, my lady," you reply. Why does that make you want to cry? A core-filling mixture of joy and sorrow and love, turning, turning. It's as she said: one day you will ride again, and it shall be by her side.
 
XXXIV. October 23-24, 1575. Warszawa, Polish Crownlands.
It was sinful to take yesterday off, even if it was for the one you hold dearest, or to strengthen the bonds of marriage. For God frowns upon idleness, and more than one Saint cautions against foolish game-playing or the ostentatious or even excessive joy, of which existed too much of all three. There is cause to be guilty, and there is cause to redouble one's efforts. Though, and the Lord knows this well for he knows the hearts of all men, there is nothing more sinful than politics. The Savior warned of such things. But it is your earthly task, the reason why God made you a prince by fate. In any case, you must be doing something right, you venture to guess, fearful of it curdling into pride: your fever hasn't returned for nearly a week now, and no blood seeps through the plaster-stump.

When the Austrian Baron (unofficially) polled the Sejm regarding the staffing of the Military Frontier, the result was unsurprising: the proposal of foreign colonists was met with a mixture of confusion and roaring boo's, while the resettlement and parceling out of modest land grants for the destitute, landless or near-landless nobility was met with resounding cheers and caps raised on the ends of sabers, with many of the patch-jackets swearing before God on the spot that they'd go. The Baron cried out, masterfully: "Very good, very well, it shall be so, it shall be yours!" A good diplomat such as he knows how to fire up a crowd as well he can learn a new dance on the fly or learn a court's etiquette.

You smile in your senatorial chair, rather pleased with yourself: you just made an Imperial diplomat politick like a genuine man of the Twin Nations, and the very positive reception – both at the proposal itself as well as its democratic handling – is palpable. God willing, this may make elements of the reformist gołota defect in their own self-interest. Of course, the Senators and high men of the court grumble and worry about how all this will be paid for, while some of the Ruthenians, though overjoyed in theory, express apprehension about an influx of Catholic Poles into their patrimony – though just as many are excited to staff the forts themselves or line their pockets through the sale of what is, in many places, almost empty space. But these are problems for another day, another year, even. The most important thing is securing the election of the Archduke by any means necessary.

While your father and brothers hold down the Senat, the Prussians, and the churchmen, you decide to send out messengers to discreetly round up a few handpicked members of a peculiar class of noble, passing over the Firlejowie on account of their staunch Protestantism and your Sapieha brothers-in-law due to existing ties. Meanwhile, another likely target, Hieronim Ossoliński, that high-ranking Senator, near-landless, is at death's door, barely able to keep up with the proceedings. Maybe you can speak with his sons once the old man's gone? And the notable Ruthenian Prince Czartoryski won't be a grown man for another year or two. So all of that is for some other day; it's more important to focus on those who sent your messengers back to you with good news. You shall meet with the respondents the following morning.

One could perhaps call the four men who answered your call magnates minor – the upper-middle, or perhaps the lower-upper: rich in land but lacking in prestige and titles, or likewise enjoying high esteem despite relative poverty. They sit before you in your chamber in Warszawa's palace, drinks in hand, despite the early hour – two Poles, two Ruthenians, and all at least a decade older than you. Only one possesses extant ties to Lithuania. They've already offered up the customary congratulation-condolences regarding your amputation, and now await your briefing. You preside at the foot of your bed, gripping your crutches tightly and going over notes in your head, ever-so-slightly nervous. It's been a while since you've had to give a speech – even if it's just to four (albeit consequential) men.

There's the Field Crown Hetman and onetime rotmistrz of the defunct Obrona Potoczna, Mikołaj Sieniawski: fifty-five, broad-shouldered, scar-faced, and big-bearded, staring you down with a smile of illegible meaning. He took up the defense of the borderlands in a separate army to the east, while your little coalition took care of the westernmost voivodeships. A lifelong and consummate soldier, he holds several estates with his kinsmen east of Lwów. Sieniawski is here primarily because he's a friend and herb-brother of…

…Stanisław Tarnowski, who leans forward in his chair, seeming eager at his relatively youthful thirty-something. Distant kinsman of the late great Grand Crown Hetman Jan Amor Tarnowski, one of the finest Polonians of the century, he represents a house in decline: with the death of Jan Amor's son, Jan Krzysztof, at a youthful and childless thirty in 1567, the main line of the family was rendered extinct and their expansive eastern estates forfeit to the princes Ostrogski. Now limited to their modest ancestral holdings in Sandomierz Voivodeship, it's up to relatively obscure cadets like Stanisław to carry on the family name.

Prince Andrzej Wiśniowiecki, Voivode of Bracław, represents both Protestant and Ruthenian interests in equal measure. Perhaps fifty years of age, he arguably wields the most political power of the four men present, a brother and inheritor of the famed hero Dymitr "Bajda." As for the man before you, you know his name well: he's an old comrade of your father's and, though you never personally have met him, he played an instrumental role in provisioning your army in its campaign against the Tatars. He ensured that your forces would be provided with extensive material aid from both Bracław city proper and his extensive holdings in Volhynia.

And, finally, boasting a Zaporozhian-style, half-shaved head is Teodor Skumin Tyszkiewicz, about forty but with a weatherbeaten, deeply-wrinkled face. He shares his herb with Sieniawski and Tarnowski, but knows little of them besides that. Lord Tyszkiewicz is master of the mid-sized Ruthenian town of Berdyczów – which you relieved from Tatar raiding just a few months ago – and other, sparsely-populated tracts of land in southwest Kijów and northern Bracław Voivodeships. However, a smattering of his kinfolk occupy middling posts in the Grand Duchy, and his family is one of the few remaining to hold sway in both of the Twin Nations. Though perhaps the lowliest man present in terms of holdings and titles, he is nonetheless of regional (that is to say, borderland) significance, and was primarily drawn to you, your agents tell you, by your defense of his premier holding.

"My noble lords," you begin, "I thank you all greatly for allowing yourselves to be called upon by a man as young as I, and so early in the day. I stand before you because…"

[] "...I am in need of your help."

Why lie? Some men may find it a brave thing to admit it

[] "...the coming of the Archduke will benefit us all."

For these men, you ought to get straight to the point.

[] "...you are men deserving of esteem, of riches, and of the highest seats of government."

A bit of flattery never hurt anyoneit's just a preamble.

[] "...no more shall these Twin Nations be dominated by the men of the heartlands."

Three of these men hail from Ruthenia or the southeast more generally – Tarnowski is of Lesser Poland, but he's certainly no Masovian churl.

[] write-in.


Phrased as a completion to the above sentences.
 
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Dear @Sertorius and @Kir the Wizard,

Sorry in advance if this was a mess. The internet is a difficult place for a monolingual Anglo like I to hunt down this type of biographical information, as it seems a lot of this stuff exists only in Polish/Ukrainian/Russian-language print books. For example, a 17th century engraving of the Tarnowski family tree said the Stanisław was the Castellan of Sandomierz which would, of course, actually make him quite important, at least in the senatorial order of precedence. When I try to cross-reference it with a list of Sandomierz Castellans I found (that exists without much basis), he's nowhere to be seen. Meanwhile, I couldn't figure out when the Princes Wiśniowiecki came into their extensive eastern holdings in Kyiv Voivodeship – or if Andrzej was a Calvinist, besides a Wikipedia article citing a 120 y/o history book (I decided that he is, for diversity's sake).

Save me, save me!

P.S. If you like pirates, the mighty @Place has enlisted me in her newborn quest -- we each write a different twin! It's SDN-inspired, in that we're going for hard-realist historically-accurate coming-of-age pathos-filled blah blah blah. If you like this, you'll like it!
 
Hmmm. How to persuade these find gentlemen to our side of things?

They're each our elder, and each more experienced. So, I'm unsure flattery will do us very well here.

Nor do I believe saying we need their help will be beneficial. It'd yield control of the conversation to them to steer as they'd like. Which might not turn out well for us.

So. This in mind. I believe we just be to the point and honest about what we're here to discuss.

[X] "...the coming of the Archduke will benefit us all."
 
[X] "...the coming of the Archduke will benefit us all."

We have a reputation for honesty, and these men are soldiers, why beat around the bush? It's not like they're Gentry from around Krakow or Warsaw
 
[X] "...the coming of the Archduke will benefit us all."

At this point if you just write fluff about Mariana and Stan i Will be a happy man
 
At this point if you just write fluff about Mariana and Stan i Will be a happy man
Heh, more where that came from! It's fun and makes me smile. Never thought I'd be a romance writer but...

That aside, Mariana is the only woman in the entire goddamn quest, so she needs her screentime! Though Anna Jagiellonka will most surely be making an appearance again sometime soon.
 
[X] "...I am in need of your help."

We very much do, and they'll know it. Sieniawski looks like he does know this and is waiting for us to come at him with a bribe. My bet is on being honest with them, and working out a deal of what we'll owe them for their support in the future.
 
Stanisław was the Castellan of Sandomierz which would, of course, actually make him quite important, at least in the senatorial order of precedence. When I try to cross-reference it with a list of Sandomierz Castellans I found (that exists without much basis), he's nowhere to be seen.
From what I found, Stanisław Tarnowski (born before 1541) was the Crown Swordbearer (or Swordbearer of the Crown) and Castellan of Czechów (he will get Sandomierz in 1576). A typical representative of a middle noble family, whose great influence vanished. Even his dead father held an important central office (Grand Treasurer of the Crown, responsible for the Crown's finances). Now all he has is the honourary Swordbearer and a Castellancy of some forgotten little town.
Meanwhile, I couldn't figure out when the Princes Wiśniowiecki came into their extensive eastern holdings in Kyiv Voivodeship – or if Andrzej was a Calvinist, besides a Wikipedia article citing a 120 y/o history book (I decided that he is, for diversity's sake).
I got my hands on a monograph dedicated to the Wiśniowiecki family and it has a few pages about Andrzej. It confirms that he was the very first member of his family to abandon Orthodoxy and convert to Calvinism (having done so sometime before 1570). He had holdings in the Grand Duchy besides Volhynia and was a neighbour of Mikołaj Krzysztof Radziwiłł (our Orphan, Andrzej's daughter will marry him one day), but they had good relations with each other. Wasn't fond of the Union and hoped, that Walezy shall return Ruthenia to Lithuania.

As to the famed Zadnieprze Lands (or Wiśniowiecki Country) from what I see, that big piece of land on the other side of the Dniepr river was always owned by them. It is currently in the hands of the senior family line lead by Andrzej's uncle Michał. Only his son, Aleksander, shall turn it into the powerbase and extensive family holdings, that will bring his line great fortune and power. Right now they are but empty steppes dotted with a few villages and small towns.
Obrona. ;)
 
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From what I found, Stanisław Tarnowski (born before 1541) was the Crown Swordbearer (or Swordbearer of the Crown) and Castellan of Czechów (he will get Sandomierz in 1576). A typical representative of a middle noble family, whose great influence vanished. Even his dead father held an important central office (Grand Treasurer of the Crown, responsible for the Crown's finances). Now all he has is the honourary Swordbearer and a Castellancy of some forgotten little town.
Perfect! Glad I wasn't totally being led astray -- thanks for your help with Lord Tarnowski in particular. I won't info threadmark it this time around cuz there's no major corrections but players take note!
 
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