Si Deus Nobiscum: A Polish-Lithuanian Scion Quest

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[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Arrange a meeting with Jan Zamoyski.
[X] A fine black hussar's horse – half-native and and the rest Turkish-Tatar.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
[X] An imported, Italian cameo necklace of Artemis, set in gold.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
[X] An imported, Italian cameo necklace of Artemis, set in gold.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
[X] A fine black hussar's horse – half-native and and the rest Turkish-Tatar.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
[X] A fine black hussar's horse – half-native and and the rest Turkish-Tatar.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
[X] A fine black hussar's horse – half-native and and the rest Turkish-Tatar.

Our wife shall become a horse girl.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Arrange a meeting with Jan Zamoyski.
[X] A fine black hussar's horse – half-native and and the rest Turkish-Tatar.
 
[X] "This is a matter best put to a vote before the Sejm. We should ask them with haste."
[X] Arrange a meeting with Jan Zamoyski.
[X] A set of Austrian-inspired dresses.
 
We have a tie for who to meet with, while Mariana's b-day gift is quite close. I'm gonna let this ride til tomorrow US time — so let's say 12-16 hours more.

Get votin' or debatin'!
 
Can't go wrong with more votes! Thats my call.

We're here to win an election first and foremost. Winning more support and votes in that regard is very important. So, I advocate for reaching out to the striver families, whom we can sway over with the wealth and prestige behind the doors that Matthias being king will open in the Empire.
 

Scheduled vote count started by Rolman on Aug 25, 2024 at 2:17 PM, finished with 23 posts and 16 votes.
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Runoff Time! Meeting Edition.
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    • Okay, so, by unanimous approval the Sejm will be quickly consulted regarding the nature of the proposed Military Frontier, while Mariana will (narrowly) be getting a shiny new horse!

    This leaves us with our two tied options...

    [] Arrange a meeting with Jan Zamoyski.

    Try to arrange contingencies for the victory of either side, to ensure a peaceful transfer of power. Tempers are running high, after all.

    [] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

    Remind them of the promises, the opportunities, the ease of manipulating the young Archduke: Mariana's web-weaving has perhaps planted the seeds.
     
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    • [X] Arrange a meeting with Jan Zamoyski.

    Mattheus is young enough to still be a candidate if Bathory ends up winning, so all the better to make it to that point without a civil war, plus Stanislaw is probably not in the best position to get exiled again, if the worst case scenario happens and Bathory chooses to neutralize a big opponent of his candidacy by yeeting him away from court power, like King Henry
     
    [X] Arrange a meeting with Jan Zamoyski.

    The 1576 and 1586 Elections both resulted in civil wars to varying levels and weakened Poland and isolated it politically from potential allies outside of France.

    I'd rather not do that here.
     
    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

    I think this is our best option for winning this thing, which should be our actual goal. This military frontier and Hasburg partnership is effectively an offer of social and economic mobility to the junior Crownlander nobles. If we get this right, we will have a very strong argument for electing Matthias.

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    Try to arrange contingencies for the victory of either side, to ensure a peaceful transfer of power. Tempers are running high, after all.
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    I'm not as worried about this. If Zamoyski wants to attempt a coup when he loses the election, let him. Our new alliance will crush him and make the reclamation of Luthuanian lands a done deal.
     
    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
     
    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

    There is nothing to be gained from a talk with Zamoyski. Problems regarding eventual conflicts after the election are not possible to be solved by a single man. Meanwhile, consolidating our position and getting some more magnates on board is a good career choice.
     
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    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
     
    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.

    Meeting with Zamoyski is the same as admitting defeat.
     
    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
     
    [X] Hold a summit with some of the striver-families: the remnants of the mighty Tarnowscy, the Ruthenian Wiśniowieccy, Hetman Mikołaj Sieniawski, etc.
     
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