- Location
- France
Without giving too many details, for each raid option there is a core/majorproject that the Tribute-Takers cannot interrupt without consequences.
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Try to survive the Winter: A planquest in Fantasy Colonial America
- Thread starter OldShadow
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- Fantasy Alt. History
You are putting a native dice next to the son while putting a skirmisher dice on hunting. Could we shift those two around since we get a plus 10 to skirmishers rolls if they are next to a son dice?
No can't cause skirmishers don't count as a native die
- Location
- Spain
I had almost forgotten about the trade with these guys...
But something else to consider @Chimeraguard is that trading with the Shepards kind of makes your "Hunt for game" action redundant since we are going to buy meat and pelts from these guys anyways, or even better we can get animals that we can use to get meat and leather/pelts regularly...
So I suggest you again relocate the Skirmisher´s dice we are using for hunting game, my preference would be to double down on the War on Woods, but we can also put it on getting the doggos
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Remind me again what animals the Shepards have? Pastoralism wasn't a common part of the landscape of early colonial North America, so I'm not sure what we're dealing with or how much we can expect from them.
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Some seem to be regular animals, but others seems to be devolved humans. So I'd be leery of buying food from them.
We can't, only Native dice may be used.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I am sincerely curious about what species of animals they're dealing with.
And yeah, until we know what species they're dealing with, I'm hesitant to make ourselves reliant on them for any particular thing.
- Location
- Spain
Well, since they are called "Shepards" I will guess that most of the animals they have are ungulates, and since we are too far away from the ranges of animals like, bighorn sheep, mountain goats, muskoxen, and reindeer... The most likely things that they have domesticated are bison and deer...
But then again this is following RL rules on an obvious magic continent, so we can have lots of weird stuff as well, or animals that don't belong in this area...
ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
- Location
- Neverland
Well found this and am interested in where this goes I'll have to vote later when I have a chance.
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Mmm, I was considering removing Winter Clothes and another thing for the Great Mending to try and get Morale above the 70 mark. I think on reflection it may be better to just leave things as-is. Maybe the Craft for this turn isn't 100% optimal for all things, but it's workable.
Hmm, interesting. Am I right in thinking that the Sun-Loving Woods aren't much good for the "release Swamp Beasts" and "provoke the Lords" actions, but would at least be able to go Last March of the Ents on the dams the Tribute Takers have built?
It isn't redundant. the Shepherds may provide meat (if they've got animals that aren't ex-humans), but their list of available resources for trade explicitly doesn't provide hides/leather, so we need to hunt for those ourselves.
- Location
- France
Yes, but honestly the Sun-Loving are at their best in long campaigns or against fortified targets.
They are giants trees after all.
I think Craft is fine, we do need everything that's on the plan.
Next turn we'll have 6 Craft, meaning we can do Mending, Lordskin clothes and two other things (booze and nets imo) next turn.
- Location
- Spain
I am assuming that leather is among the things that they sell because I understand "meat and animals" as animal products and livestock... But just ask the QM...
@OldShadow In the Shepards you list it as possible trade options Meat, Animals, Scraps of occult lore... It is wrong to assume that "meat and animals" also include things like leather, hair, horns, and other subproducts of animal husbandry?
- Location
- France
Yes, but I would not say it is animal husbandry...
So yeah, leather, hair...
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
I see. Well, we don't seem to have anything like that available for us at the moment. I suppose those would be locked behind War Against Winter?
- Location
- France
Yes, or when Union will be able to reach for the Tribute-Takers main settlements.
- Location
- Spain
See @Chimeraguard ? We are getting animal products in general from the Shepards (not just meat), and that also includes leather/pelts
Leather yes, but I wouldn't be so sure about pelts. That's important, because I don't think that Strongarm would be happy if we offered him New World Leather instead of New World Furs (the former won't be valuable until the Industrial Revolution hits).
Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
I see. And I'm also not changing it.
We want to still be producing some degree of meat and furs ourselves rather than being completely reliant on trade, especially since we have uses for the furs ourselves. If nothing else, we don't know that we want the meat from their "possibly former human" animals, in which case we'd better have gotten some ourselves.
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- Location
- Spain
The QM has confirmed that the Shepards offer us "products derived from animals" in general so I am assuming that in this context Pelts and leather are interchangeable...
But let´s clarify it further then
Just to clarify @OldShadow the deal with the Shepards also pelts, no?
Producing our pelts not to rely on trade is all nice and dandy but the opportunity cost of using a dice to get something that we can get via trade, especially since getting pelts is not all that urgent, is pretty high...
I would rather make sure to get a few more things going before winter like getting the dogs, especially when next turn we need to build stuff like crazy and go after the pests
- Location
- France
Yes, there will be pelts, but...weird ones.
Let me be as clear as I can, the Sheperds have strange herds, with strange products.